I was just emailing a friend about this experience when it occurred to me Microsoft could be sending to the 'deleted' account because a test email didn't bounce, in which case I guess they'd be covering all bases. So, undecided about that one. Which just leaves having to wait 30 days to play Solitaire.
Windows 8.1 becomes world's fourth-most-popular desktop OS
Windows 8.1 adoption is speeding up, with the operating system now the planet's fourth-most-popular, according to Netmarketshare statistics. With January 2014 now behind us, the firm has totted up the results of its ongoing observations of just what browsers and operating systems hit the world's web servers. Those explorations …
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Monday 3rd February 2014 20:00 GMT Ken Hagan
"Why would I want, or need, to log into a local PC on my Network, with an Internet email account that rarely gets used?"
Like the other guy said, you don't actually have to. Unfortunately, you do have to enter something, so you have to enter something that fails, let Windows get a bloody nose, try again, probably fail again, and *eventually* the stupid setup system will give up and offer you the choice of logging in with a local account.
In short, you've got to go all the way to "Well, if you're going to insist on that internet account then the deal's off and I'm getting a Mac." before Windows will blink.
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Monday 3rd February 2014 12:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
XP and Exchange 2013 - already stuffed.
XP support continues until April - but we just heard this morning from our Hosted Exchange service provider that Exchange 2013 doesn't work with XP, right now.
We didn't ask to be migrated from our previous Exchange platform (2007) to 2013 - it was forced on us by the provider. But now we find that with no warning at all, we can't use our XP Outlook clients with the new Exchange service - our provider is telling us that if we want to use Outlook we have to upgrade all our XP machines NOW, because they don't work. (This applies even to XP machines running Outlook2010.)
I'd be grateful if anyone else can share any inside knowledge of this - reading between the lines, I would guess that some incompatibility between XP and the latest update of Exchange Server 2013 has crept in, and rather than fixing it, Microsoft have decided not to bother. But it may be that the Hosted Exchange provider should have been aware of this in advance, and overlooked it.
Any insiders out there who can clarify?
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Monday 3rd February 2014 13:48 GMT Mike Dimmick
Re: XP and Exchange 2013 - already stuffed.
Exchange Server 2013 is supported with Outlook 2013, 2010 SP1 (with an update) and 2007 SP3 (with an update). I'm not aware of a dependency on the client OS version. Outlook 2013 does require Windows 7 at minimum.
Source: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/845.outlook-versions-supported-by-exchange-200720102013online.aspx for Outlook versions supported.
If you were hosting your own Exchange Server, you'd need a 64-bit install of Windows 7 SP1, at minimum, to run the 2013 Management Tools remotely.
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Monday 3rd February 2014 15:27 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: XP and Exchange 2013 - already stuffed.
Your provider is slightly wrong.
What they mean is Outlook in "Office XP" cannot connect to Exchange 2013+, something has been removed or changed but I cannot remember what. You need at leasts Office 2007 SP3 from memory to connect to Exchange 2013+ via MAPI
The details are in google.
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Tuesday 4th February 2014 10:50 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: XP and Exchange 2013 - already stuffed.
> I'm not aware of a dependency on the client OS version.
Neither, it appears, was my provider - until about two days ago. We were informed of other, well-documented dependencies a long time in advance of being migrated to Exchange 2013, but there was no mention made of XP - until a month after the migration, with no warning.
>What they mean is Outlook in "Office XP"
I quote from their email:
"Customers using Windows XP will find some critical functions will not work with Exchange 2013, therefore customers must upgrade their operating system."
The lack of any mention of this earlier makes me think that they didn't mean to make Exchange 2013 incompatible with Windows XP, but found that there were some issues with it when they released it into the wild, and they can't be bothered fixing these issues so they just tell their customers to spend their way out of a bind.
But what I really want to know is whether the "they" in the sentence above is Microsoft, or the Hosted Exchange provider..?
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Monday 3rd February 2014 12:41 GMT Anonymous Coward
Is 'popular' the correct word?
The Oxford Dictionary definition is "liked or admired by many people or by a particular person or group". I'm sure it's like and admired by some of its users but some of us users just have no choice in the matter. We have not chosen to use Windows 8.1, it's been foisted upon us by the hardware seller who will offer no alternative.
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Monday 3rd February 2014 14:18 GMT pPPPP
Re: Is 'popular' the correct word?
I was going to say the same thing. This isn't the first article to say this. Windows 8 is not popular. It really isn't. It's increasing its market share because people are still buying laptops (even though they keep telling us nobody's buying anything but tablets any more) and Windows 8 comes pre-installed. The majority of people use whatever comes pre-installed on their laptop because they don't know how to do anything else.
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Monday 3rd February 2014 16:28 GMT Chemist
Re: Is 'popular' the correct word?
"and Windows 8 comes pre-installed" - I take your point esp. if people buy from a big retailer but I'm writing this on a brand new laptop bought on-line from a UK company (quad -core i7, 8GB, 1080 matte screen) and I got it £65 cheaper by not having Windows installed. The case is a little naff but the screen ( ~15") and performance is gorgeous. OpenSUSE 13.installed in 8 minutes from a USB live distro and EVERYTHING works. Only Intel graphics but that is easily good enough to watch 1080p/50 video with cpus ticking over. Renders 1080p/50 video at ~1.7 mins per min of video (H264) with all 'eight' cores averaging about 80%
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Monday 3rd February 2014 13:31 GMT GNoMe
Full list of OS percentages
For completeness here is the full list of OSs
Windows XP 59.80%
Windows 7 20.34%
Windows Vista 13.04%
Mac OS X 10.6 3.03%
Mac OS X 10.5 1.60%
Linux 0.96%
Mac OS X 10.4 0.47%
Windows 2000 0.36%
Windows NT 0.21%
Mac OS X (no version reported) 0.08%
Windows 98 0.05%
Windows ME 0.03%
Mac OS X Mach-O 0.02%
FreeBSD 0.01%
SunOS 0.00%
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Monday 3rd February 2014 16:12 GMT Tom 13
Re: it may at least spare some blushes
It shouldn't. When you latest two operating systems combined still don't exceed the market share of your 2-months-from-we're-going-to-kill-it-and-this-time-we-really-really-mean-it operating system, you have a colossal failure. Failure is NOT supposed to be an option.
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Monday 3rd February 2014 16:21 GMT All names Taken
You'd think
(I certainly did at - at least for a while)
that OS distributors
(Yes 'doze, *os and 'nix I mean you)
would realise that the public would catch on to the fact that a new operating system or operating system update meant old hardware was made obsolete forcing one to purchase new hardware in order to keep continuity in working methods no?
Operating system update = hardware system downgrade yes?
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Monday 3rd February 2014 16:59 GMT JustNiz
Seems like this must be bullshit research (i.e. hopelessly biassed towards Microsoft).
For one thing Android isn't even mentioned, unless you could seriously believe it is included in Linux's 1.5%.
Their browser study shows ie overall market share is still over 50%, when everyone else is stating its less than 20% for example:
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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Tuesday 4th February 2014 01:16 GMT Al Black
Windows XP
There are at last count over 500,000 PC's worldwide still running XP. They will not all suddenly stop working when the OS goes out of support. For most people it will just mean that the Microsoft Support they have never used will no longer be available. As PC's are retired at end-of-life they will be replaced with Win 7 or 8 PC's: this is now cheaper than upgrading the OS on the old PC. So don't panic, just accept that this highly successful OS is on its way out.
The differences between Win 8 and Win 8.1 are so trivial, they should be considered the same OS.
The fact that over 10% of the world's PCs already use Win8x is a fairly good start, considering
a) Corporates have just finished moving to Win 7 and have no driving need to upgrade, and
b) Apple OS X is installed on 7.7% of desktops after a much longer release.
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Tuesday 4th February 2014 09:57 GMT GNoMe
the better list
I don;t why what happened when I copied the last list but this is the correct one
Windows 7 47.49%
Windows XP 29.23%
Windows 8 6.63%
Windows 8.1 3.95%
Windows Vista 3.30%
Mac OS X 10.9 3.20%
Linux 1.60%
Mac OS X 10.8 1.48%
Mac OS X 10.6 1.44%
Mac OS X 10.7 1.19%
Mac OS X 10.5 0.29%
Windows NT 0.07%
Mac OS X 10.4 0.07%
Windows 2000 0.03%
Mac OS X (no version reported) 0.01%
Windows 98 0.00%