Point 7 has always been the one for me.
Here we are again on iPhone day, and once more the world waits on the edge of its seat to see what the fruitchomp masterminds of Cupertino have in store. We'll tell you what they've got in store - and none of it's good. Without further ado, here are ten points you should ponder before you even think of buying a new iPhone 5. …
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:01 GMT TiredOldTrot
Ten reasons why you shouldn't buy this nonsense
1. I've never, like the majority of users, swopped out a battery in mobile (unless it fails to charge).
2. Never needed much use a memory card and when I did most implementations are pain in the ....
3. Obviously the writer's never been in walled garden they can be spectacular.
4. Applies to most mobiles many are worst.
5. I want something that works not to compensate for the size of my...
6. If you have to use Stephen Fry in your argument I've won!
7. It is not expensive; what it is is not cheap (and nasty).
8. Same answer as 4
9. As someone who's quite happy with the size of his equipment I don't get this obsession with size.
10. I'd have to agree as this advice is something I'd always gone by, but the above 9 points are making me think again.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:01 GMT Simbu
Valid points marred
Unfortunately your valid points about SD cards and batteries pale somewhat into significance when you make irrational arguements like "don't buy a new model because a 2 generations old one didn't have 3G". Or "Stephen Fry wants to copulate with his iPhone, therefore no-one should like it".
As for the walled garden arguement, i quote The Once-ler when i say "If Apple didn't do it then someone else would have".
They saw a profitable and successful business model (that consumers evidently like) and went for it. How dare those capitalist pigs...
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:01 GMT jai
oh i dunno
1) Never had a problem with any of mine. Had a few close calls, admittedly, but sometimes it's nice to spend the last 5 minutes walking home from work, listening to the birds in the trees, being aware of the cars zooming past me
2) if you use iTunes and it's Smart playlists properly, you won't have a need for extra memory.
3) it would seem that Amazon would wish to argue that walled-garden businesses are the way of the future. buying an iphone or a kindle just puts you at the front of the new age.
4) but then again, really, who bothers to phone anyone these days? if you can't txt or tweet it, it's not worth saying
5) not so. all those other fools have the old iphone model. therefore you must be seen with the very brand new on to stand out from the crowd.
6) Just because he's a celebrity and expresses his opinion, doesn't mean he's wrong. and besides, you don't find many other celebrities gushing about the android alternatives do you?
7) Same can be said about BMWs and Fords
8) Surely this is a reason TO buy the new one, as it'll have a new antenna design, rather than the old iPhone4 (on which, i might add, i've yet to find the antenna issue occur without getting cramp in my hand trying to force it to happen)
9) bigger isn't always better. Bono's sunglasses cover more of his face than other sunglasses, but i still think they look ugly
10) as before, gotta buy at the start before the hoi poloi get their hands on it
and there's a great reason to buy the phone:
just as you've no doubt revelled in trolling the apple fanboys with this article, merely by buying the latest iPhone on release day, we get get to troll every windows and android fanatic at once. and that's worth any amount of apple-taxation :-) :-)
Tuesday 4th October 2011 22:01 GMT Anonymous Coward
1)unless it fails to charge... there in lies the point. once the battery no longer holds charge (for whatever reason), the phone is effectively useless. (baring a fiddly warranty voiding procedure or expensive 'repair')
4) no. it really doesn't. I cant speak for 5/4s, but 4 and its predecessors are near the bottom of the pack.
6) using column inches for irrelevance isnt you "winning" its lewis losing slightly for padding, because ten is a nice round number
7) its not expensive if you are well off. It is/will be *more* expensive than most of its competitors. Diamonds aren't expensive if you are filthy rich. £10 for a loaf of bread anyone?
8) antennagate - if many were similar or worse, we would be complimenting apple on how much better than the competition it is. But it isnt. ie you are wrong.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:03 GMT Randy Hudson
As an AT&T iPhone 4 owner, I can confirm the deathgrip is real (I'm rarely affected, and I use no case). But, Apple have addressed the issue, which is why the Verizon iPhone 4 was designed with dual aerials. Unless you grip the phone simultaneously at the top and bottom, there's no way to attenuate both.
Why is the reg still harping about a design issue that was addressed nearly a year ago??
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:03 GMT Tubby21288
I'm sorry but before I take this seriously i'll wait and see what APPLE have to say about it. Where did you get this information from because I'm willing to bet it wasn't Apple. I like giving Apple stick as much as the next average Microsoft Joe however saying it won't have this or won't have that when you know NOTHING about its technical specifications is just stupid.
How stupid are you going to look if Apple come back and say that some of these features are actually available?
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:03 GMT Alexis Vallance
1. No Swappable Battery
Personally I don't need to swap the battery and it would mean replacing the glass back with some crappy plasticky hatch.
2. No Memory Card Slot
Ditto, 16Gb is fine for me.
3. Buying iPhones Encourages The Walled-Garden Business Model
I really don't care what impact buying a product has on the industry as a whole.
4. Not Actually That Great As A Phone
This doesn't even make sense. As a 'phone' for making calls, or as a 'smartphone' ie. as a computer?
5. Scarcely Marks You Out As One Of The Cognoscenti
If everybody drove Ferrari's would you still not want one?
6. Stephen Fry Likes It
I assume you had this when you were scraping the barrel at 10, but moved it to 6 to try and hide it?
7. Very, Very Expensive For What It Is
£99 and £35 a month (on 3) isn't expensive. It's not 2007 when the 1G came out any more.
8. Antenna is Badly Designed
I honestly have never ever had any problem with the antenna. I'm not left handed, where it might be an issue, but it's not an issue.
9. You Don't Get Much Screen Considering How Big It Is
True, but the resolution is so high, it doesn't feel small.
10. If You Must Buy One, For Pity's Sake Not Now
Who cares though? If you really really want one, just get one. It's not a fridge-freezer purchase.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 16:26 GMT Anonymous Coward
A couple of Ripostes
5. No, but if everyone was driving Saxos, while talking enthusiastically about how spacious and capacious and fast and powerful they were and how they were the very best car in the world ever, I'd question their grasp on reality. That's a closer analogy. (Ferrari, indeed. You wish.)
7. On the assumption (a fair one, i believe) that you signed up to a 24-month contract for that deal, you'll be paying nearly a grand for that phone. Mug.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:04 GMT Pahhh
A balance response to a poor sets of arguments
1- Battery - yes absolutely it is a limitation, but its a compremise over the form factor. By making the battery not removable it allows the iPhone to pact more in that space.
Secondly, most people dont carry extra batteries. The road warrior now tackles this issue by having differnet methods of recharging the device on the move.
Your comments on the reasoning to why apple to provide removable batteries demonstrates an incredible lack of understanding to the reason why they never have.
2- The memory card on the surface sounds like a great argument but in reality its totally flawed. If you have an Android phone, many of your applications are TOTALLY reliant on the on phone memory. So much so that even though you can put a massive SSD card in your phone, you dont have enough space to install more applications because your on-board memory. Secondly, revisit point 1 - not having a slot for a card means you cram more in a smaller form factor.
3 - This Wall-garden is actually developer heaven. Ok, just in case you are confused, re-read my statement, "developer heaven". In one shop, you have access to the WHOLE of the Apple iPhone customer base. In return Apple get a cut. But its not an unreasonable cut.
4 - Not a great phone? Really? I've had several Blackberries , Nokias and a few Motos. The Nokias have to bed set were the best phones. All the others werent that good. I was very pleased with the iPhone performance.
5 - Scarcely Marks You Out As One Of The Cognoscenti - well I can argue against that. If you need to be special and unique and you do that because of the device you own, I think the iPhone is no longer for you. Frankly, you have other issues.
6 - Stephen Fry Liikes it - ok, that one is kind of compelling argument.
7 - Very, Very Expensive For What It Is - Yes it is. But many people believe its better an are prepared to pay for it.
8 - Antenna is Badly Designed - But in reality its been blown out of proportion. I've tested this and the problem is real but I had to make it work.
9 - You Don't Get Much Screen Considering How Big It Is - Its the best resolution screen on the market but yes it could use more real estate.
10 - If You Must Buy One, For Pity's Sake Not Now - ....whatever.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:04 GMT Timjl
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
actually 9 reasons
not having a swappable battery means no need for a battery compartment door, nor idiot-proof battery connections and allows the phone to have a stronger structure, and a larger battery...
Anyone who needs more battery life can buy themselves a external battery pack for far less than the cost of a new phone-specific battery...
I fully agree with the other 9 reasons though :)
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT Steve Evans
I can't quite believe I am commenting against such an anti-apple article, but #1... "One can see the commercial reasons why Apple doesn't like letting people change batteries in its devices easily"... One can? I can't see any commercial reason. In fact if they were removable, Apple could sell extra batteries for £99.99 a piece and hit their followers up with another huge profit margin.
The only reason I can see is that it might impact on the design, and Apple are the champions of form over function.
And #2, well yes, removable storage is very very nice, but a lot of phone manufacturers manage to screw this up by putting the microSD card underneath the battery *d'oh*. So you have to turn the phone off to swap the storage. The Nokia N70, N95 and N97 could both swap it on the fly. In this respect many modern smart phones are going backwards.
Apart from that, a perfectly good flame-bait of the Appleites. I guess this is a tactically timed post so that all the followers of the one true path are going to be in Covent Garden right now, all sharing the same overloaded mobile mast, and unable to check el-reg?
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT mrkeithy
This article is clear written by somebody very, very biased towards apple. I am by no means a fan of apple, but a few here points, My HTC loses signal if you handle it in a certain way, and are you really going to say a reason not to buy an iPhone is because stephen fry likes it, i mean really.
Another reason listed, because they are not in fashion, i am not sure you checked, this is a tech news website not the pages of glamour mag.
On to another point about storage, Who the hell buys a 32gb smart phone and needs more space bar a select few, Jo blogs off the street, is never gonna fill a 32gb iPhone. This article has been written with out considering all aspects and is just a sounding board for some one to hate on a sussfull company.
The one thing i do like about apple is there control of the apps, the amount of times i have downloaded an app on my android phone and it is caused problems is not worth buying. I would not buy an iPhone because of the battery and because of the issues with the iPhone 4, but what is written here is not objective in any way, is not the first point of journalism objectivity.
There is some good points raised here about batteries and attenaa, but they are almost entirely ignored because all this biased and un-objective trip. I love this site, but this article is badly written and should never have been posted.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT Chika
Apple. Once viewed as the epitome of the anti-monopoly market. Once seen as one of the big innovators. Amongst other machines, I cut my programming teeth on an Apple ][. And not just in BASIC either.
I look upon this company, and it has become great but, along the way, I wonder if it has really lost its soul. No doubt the comments that will follow will be the usual fanboi versus whoever, with the usual rhetoric about this article and each other, but I look at Apple now and wonder if they have become more like Microsoft than even Microsoft are these days.
No, I shall refrain from buying an iPhone. The whole thing seems a little too creepy...
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT Robert Hill
So, absolutely NO value???
So absolutely no value given to actually having the most applications available for it's OS?
Actually, Lewis's equating the entire value of a piece of hardware to JUST the hardware really is pretty worrying, given the import of so much of what he writes (i.e., defense related). Anyone that is promoting himself as an "expert" in these areas should be able to discuss the value of an ecosystem (i.e., related peripherals that actually work with your device/plane/ship, etc.) and the software components of a hardware/software device (i.e., the value of iOS, which is still better than Android at overall usability, if not customization).
To get it so totally wrong in a simple phone tantrum makes me very much worry about his ability to properly judge the larger defense procurement issues...
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT Wayne
Talk about just baiting people for the ad impressions ...
"A company which would do that is unlikely to have raised its game much today, and it can't have done much about it in the case of the 4S."
You're really advising against buying something that you've never seen or used on the basis that they got something wrong with an older model ?
On that basis, you shouldn't buy any phone, ever!
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:05 GMT Annihilator
Some truth in some of the points
But really, does anyone really like the person in the corner of a party telling people the drinks are rubbish because it's "not a proper pint", the music is too loud and not "proper" music and that they're having fun all wrong?
Best quote I saw from someone recently "As with most discussions on the Internet, it has nothing to do with objective merits, just runaway emotion and unstated difference of premise."
If someone comes along and tells you why your phone is wrong and that their Apple phone is so much better, than feel free to make these points to them. But if they're just quietly getting on with their lives, owning a phone they believe is the right choice for them, then just leave them the fuck alone.
The levels of vitriol saddens me. As do the number of down-votes this will get.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:06 GMT Chris007