back to article All of Blighty's attack submarines are out of action – report

None of the Royal Navy's seven attack submarines are deployed on operations at the moment, according to reports, which potentially threatens the security of Britain's nuclear deterrent. The Sun reported this morning that six of the seven boats are in maintenance – except for the seventh, HMS Astute, which is still undergoing …

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Enough of this blind man's buff with baseball bats!

Crank up the active sonar to 11 and let's get the supercavitating sub fighters off the drawingboard and into the water. That'll give everybody something to shkval about.

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Attack submarines?

Ok to non subs but ...from Wikipedia... Maybe they should call them fluffy class submarines. Oh BTW Vietnam just got delivery of their 6th Russian built sub. Uk has such a Napoleon complex.

1945 February 6- Royal Navy submarine Venturer becomes the only submarine to sink another submarine while they were both submerged when she sinks U-864 off Norway.

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not the first time this has happened

around 20-25 years ago, when we had a much larger fleet of around 20 hunter killers, only three were operational: the rest had cracks in the reactor core, which required "interestingly difficult" welding repairs.

The real issue here is WHY DO WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN SUBS? Allowing for the usual guideline for at any time of a naval fleet, one third is in long-term refit, one third short-term refit/working up, one third available for service, the best we could ever hope for is two in service.Bloody joke

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Battleship inflation

The Royal Navy had a lot more subs thirty years ago but about half of them were diesel boats built in the 1960s and 1970s. The first nuclear submarines were in the 3000-4000 tonne displacement range, effectively large diesel-style hulls with a nuclear power plant providing steam to conventional turbines or (later) pumpjets for propulsion. They had operational problems including requiring refuelling every ten to fifteen years which necessitated the hull being cut in half to get at the reactor spaces which took them out of action for years at a time.

The new Astute class boats are 7000 tonnes plus, use electric drive resulting in extraordinarily low levels of noise, carry cruise missiles as well as a massive towed sonar suite, cruise underwater at thirty knots plus, never need refuelling due to improvements in reactor design and they can do all sorts of things the older subs can't. The downside is they're much larger and more expensive to build than their predecessors so we get fewer of them. It's like the old battleships which got bigger and more expensive as time went on but fewer and fewer got built for the same reasons.

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Since The Sun reported this first, El Reg shouldn't fear reprisals from GCHQ, hopefully. Perhaps if your Gov less resources into spying on citizens and more into the purchase of better quality subs, such circumstances would not have occurred?

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Duff story?

...if one believes The Sun [...]

Well, quite. Who believes The Sun? Run a story when this is confirmed by real journalists.

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