back to article 'I thought my daughter clicked on ransomware – it was the damn Windows 10 installer'

At the end of April, Microsoft's Windows 10 nagware interrupted a live TV weather broadcast to urge meteorologist Metinka Slater to upgrade her computer. A week later, while playing Counter Strike: Global Offensive to 130,000 spectators on Twitch.tv, Erik Flom was blasted out of his match by the Windows 10 installer. This was …

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Re: If they want to get more Win10

I know, I have working devices which are topped out at XP as they are old

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Don't worry, the upgrade will probably fail

I had suppressed the upgrade for some time but having built myself a powerful new PC for gaming and moved all my productive stuff onto an intel NUC running Mint Linux I decided to upgrade the old machine before giving it away. After several failed attempts I installed Win10 off the installation media I had purchased for the new PC. The PC had had a fairly heavily customised Win 7 setup so from curiousity I tried to upgrade my laptop (before converting it to linux). Nope, that failed as well and the win 7 on it was more or less bog standard. The score among my friends (of varying computer literacy) is about 60-40 against.

And the result? Win 10 seems to work ok (if I could just get to the bottom of the phantom ctrl- button) but the appearance and UI are horrible. After much effort I finally managed to customise it into something I can live with but it involved significant registry hacking. Fortunately I did manage to delete the software store before M$ made that difficult on a Pro system.

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Re: Don't worry, the upgrade will probably fail

Linux Mint seems to work quite well. I run it at home and on a second PC at work, and it's very solid.

The rest of my family runs Apple gear.

My work runs Win7. It's OK, so long as I don't have to deal with the upkeep. Except that it has decided not to see my USB keyboard. Good thing I had a PS2 one in the drawer. Can't be arsed to figure out why the USB one doesn't work...already spent an hour on it, that's more than enough.

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Slow update list

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

The guy in the article really should be using something like this.

Would make his life far easier.

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Upgraded

Just this week I decided to apply the free upgrade to a Windows 7 machine that I had downgraded to "sacrificial" status. The actual OS experience itself isn't *that* bad, but the fact I can't disable windows updates (I only install the updates *I* want to receive, when I want them) and it doesn't seem to allow me to switch off Windows Defender for any more than a few minutes p***es me off somewhat.

Result of experiment - don't apply update to any other/non-sacrificial machines.

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Before upgrading to 10

Switch off your automatic updates to OFF. It stops Windows 7 from trying to update before you upgrade to 10. Saves so much time.

I've upgraded several peoples personal machine to 10, mainly from 7, and make sure I always click the "Customise settings" option to stop Edge being the default browser (since IE11 is installed anyway) and switch off as many telemetry settings as possible.

Where I work uses WSUS and enterprise installs of 7, so the dreaded Windows 10 upgrade does not rear its ugly head, unless it is a remote users laptop that looses its WSUS GPO settings after not connecting for about a month.

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Bah!

They may have downloaded the files (and fuck them for doing that) but since the very first mention of the installer in these pages I used a registry update prined in the comments to shut down the nagware and haven't seen it since.

I dunno why others don't follow suit. There are plenty of sources for how to do it out there.

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May I humbly offer the following advice

Don't ever use or install Windows.

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Re: May I humbly offer the following advice

Why people keep bending unconditionally to MS is one of the greatest mysteries of our time.

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I upgraded my Asus 1015PX netbook from W7 Starter to W10 (had planned to put Mint on it anyway). That went well and I'm still using it - it is considerably better than W7 Starter (not hard I know, but still).

It's my 14yo daughter's machine that annoys me. It's a Lenovo G580. It was on Win8 when she bought it, it upgraded to 8.1 - we put classic shell on it. All was good. Microsoft know she's only 14, because when we set up her MS Live account we filled in the details properly so that I was the 'adult' who could turn on what she can and cannot do with regards Store purchase and the like. I get a weekly report of what she's been up to on her machine so it came as a surprise when it turns out she'd got sick of the W10 nagware and had accepted the upgrade. MS made no note of this in the weekly report they sent me.

It's also slightly perplexing that they've let a 14yo accept all of the T&Cs that come with the upgrade without going "your designated adult needs to legally accept these because you're not old enough..."

So, once I knew I had to go in and turn off all the stuff that is turned on by default under the express setup she had unwittingly accepted.

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Microsoft is turning into Apple... demanding conformity

Wont be long, and we'll be forced to use only Microsoft products.

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Windows Update 1-5 days

"Checking for Windows 7 updates now can take anywhere from one to five days before the list of updates appears."

Oh, is that it? I thought it got stuck in an infinite loop.

I _wanted_ to update from W7 and W8 to W10 on two machines and bleeping WU would just go around in circles. I went through all the troubleshooting steps MS had to throw at me to no effect, so I ended up installing W10 manually after searching Google to see how it's done. Once on W10 WU worked as expected. Both machines were fresh install of W7 and fresh activation of W8, things I did only as a step towards W10 anyway - which I then deleted to install Linux instead. I just wanted to make sure I get the licence for the machines in case I ever need to upgrade my phone software using an .exe from the manufacturer or other similar stuff I can't do on Linux or OS X.

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SlipStream

If your installing Windows7 on tons of computers then you really should update your install media to include the patches. I showed a guy how to do it with XP when he used to get Dells to refurb (seems they had some bad caps at some point). He went from doing 4 computers a day to being able to do about 20...

Okay, a charity might be different as not all installs are going to be the same, but still a updated installer would be so much better!.

I have let all of my computers update and didn't suffer any real issues. I have seen two laptops (one not mine) that really struggled with updates and can take hours to patch, but For the life of me I cant see why they do... An old Core2Duo system I have churns along just fine with Windows10.

I would prefer to use some Open Source OS but to be honest it is just not good for the family. The school has offered me "Help" with getting Microsoft publisher for my kids, but they cant seem to understand that I don't want that system. Heck, even their mailshots are sent home with Publisher files attached for the parents to view. It took me about 5 years to get the Primary school to send home PDF or Plaintext documents instead of what they had previously, the High School cant grasp it.

Users of W10 cant complain that much to be honest, they are getting an OS with Updates in exchange for not using a Older OS. I loved 98, 2000, and 7. Keeping those going today is just not worth it from a security point of view, and if it helps keep some of the masses more secure then I am all for it.

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Re: SlipStream

More secure? My parent's brand new Win10 laptop was ransomwared by the 4th day, I think because it had a "free" trial of Office and hence a macro was run.

(Proper "Yours files are in the same place heavily encrypted" ransomware, not the Win10 update!)

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Never10

Google: "Never10"

Best Windows 10 prevention tool out there. Lightweight, not a hack, using MSFT's approved avoidance procedure.

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Angel

Windows X now runs on over 300 MILLION devices!

And in other news, Big Brother has INCREASED the chocolate ration by 10 grams per week!

The GWX virus hit my wife's computer, too. She complained that wouldn't boot correctly, nor would any of her programs work. She was right, it didn't work at all. Then I realized it had tried to sneak Win X on behind our backs. I managed to do a system rollback and got Win 7 working again, then quickly installed GWX Control Panel to keep her computer safe from the GWX virus.

Next move will be to get her onto Linux, as I did with my own machines many months ago.

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Hmm, I wonder.

Out of all the people who claim to hate Windows 10, what is the basis for this?

As a user experience, its quite good. Its stable, runs very quickly on an SSD and is stable.

If the only gripe is the forced updates my question would be this; why wouldnt you want to have the latest updates on your machine? I mean honestly, how many people didnt set Windows update to auto check, download and install updates on previous versions of Windows?

Is it just because you dont get the choice to turn off a feature that you would otherwise have turned on anyway?

Genuinely curious.

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I'm sure thousands of people had an uneventful experience with W10. But here the main conversation is about upgrading to W10, on machines that may have been designed with W7 in mind.

Yes, we have no idea what the success/fail ratio is, but that's not the point. The problem is the stealth(ish) upgrading that's aggravating users.

(Have to ask. Is your Windows 10 experience on a machine that came with W10 pre-installed by the manufacturer, or did you upgrade an older machine?)

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I upgraded three machines, one was a Windows 7 era machine, with Windows 7 Pro installed. Upgrade went fine, no problems to report. The only problem I had with this machine was after it had upgraded, the old Windows image previewer that came with Windows 7 was still listed as available under the "open with..." context menu. When I tried to use it, Windows 10 ground to a halt. For this particular machine, I ended up just reinstalling Windows 10 from scratch using a USB stick, after that, no problems and no legacy applications either.

The other two machines came with Windows 8/8.1 installed. The only issues I have had with these machines have been to do with video, sometimes watching stuff on YouTube is a bit hit and miss. One of these machines is now on build 14332, and everything seems to be fixed.

None of my machines came with Windows 10 pre-installed.

As for the stealth upgrade, that just isn't the case. People are complaining that its nagware - yes it does download a whole bunch of files to your machine and that's not on, to pre-empt you wanting to install it, but it doesn't install itself and it certainly takes well more than one mouse click to start the process.

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Big Brother

It is a stealth update. I've not had it happen on my Windows machines, because I killed it all with fire (from orbit), but did have it happen on my mobile device. Though that runs Android, it's the same kind of setup.

I'm busy working, playing or surfing. I'm texting or typing. All of a sudden a box loads up in front of my focused window/app/homepage. I click the screen/type on the keyboad just as my mind registers the input. 0.5 seconds of human response time when mid flow in a task is not enough. No "are you sure" just "oh you seem to have accidentally click 'upgrade' so lets turn everything off right this second!"

I have no sympathy for MS, and have deep concern for those they have pulled the wool over the heads of. While the OS is fine, it's about as good as getting a perfectly good 3 course meal from the person you know is just waiting for you to turn your back on them...

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I am not sure what you are trying to say here.. How can you know if it is a stealth update if you have never carried out the upgrade?

it isn't a case of clicking a button and then bam, you have Windows 10, it asks you quite a lot if you want to install it in the first place. And if you don't have it downloaded already, it schedules the upgrade for you.

So, with the facts in mind, how its it a stealth upgrade?

Also, how are MS turning their backs on you? One of the biggest complaints about Windows 10 is that it will update, whether you want it to or not, so that's hardly being left high and dry is it?

Even the Android update process you allude to isn't as simple as one button press.

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I mean honestly, how many people didn't set Windows update to auto check, download and install updates on previous versions of Windows?

More to the point, I always go and disable automatic updates. The OS is free to tell me there are updates available, and I'll even let it download the files, but it doesn't do the upgrade until I say so.

If you've ever left a machine running a task overnight and come back to it the following morning to see the smug "updated" message and no trace of the work it was supposed to be doing, you'd probably be disabling auto-updates too.

There's also the previous history of borked updates - far better to let an update settle and make sure there's no outcry of "MS broke my PC!" before letting it loose on your own.

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Answers to your questions.

First off, my Win7Pro64 has the updates set to Notify Only, that way I can choose which updates (if any) to apply & when. If any given update turns out to be a telemetry spewing, Win10 downloading, or other trojan in disguise, I uncheck it, hide it, & refuse to ever download it. I certainly don't let it install. I can't do that with Win10. Each & every "update" they shove down my throat WILL get applied if I want it to or not, even if it turns out that doing so will crash my system.

Second, I use a Screen Reader Environment (SRE) that *has* to work or I can't interact with my computer *at all*. If an update might brick my computer, I *can't* let it get applied as I would have no way of fixing it. Thus the Win10 you'll-take-it-and-apply-it-and-STFU-about-it policy is *guaranteed* to cripple my system at some point, at which point I won't have any recourse. I can't fix what the SRE can't read to me, & the SRE can't do it's job if the system is hosed.

Third, I bought a full, retail copy of Win7Pro64. I expect it to be properly supported until it's listed EOL. Anything less on MS' part is a breach of contract. I did NOT buy a copy of Win10, I don't want a copy of Win10, so for MS to alter my paid for copy of Win7Pro64 into a Win10 against my express wishes is tantamount to a criminal act. If I changed the OS on your computer without your permission, there would be a cop pounding on my door with a warrant for my arrest on charges of criminal hacking. Yet MS doing the exact same thing is supposedly a GOOD thing? Not by any stretch of the imagination.

So I've repeatedly told MS that I'm not interested but they refuse to accept that "No Means No". As I've stated elsewhere in my posts, if they were a bloke in the pub doing this shite, they'd be up on rape charges a long bloody time ago. No Means No, not Maybe, & certainly not Yes. I said No, so stop trying to sneak that trojan back in.

Windows Update has repeatedly renamed & rereleased the GWX trojan so many times in an attempt to sneak it past our notice, it's like they *refuse* to take NO as an answer. Again, if this were a bloke at the pub doing this shit, the woman holding a knife to his balls & threatening to cut them off and FEED them to the fekwad would never wind up before a magistrate. The cops wouldn't be able to charge HER with anything more than Self Defense in face of a potential/probable rapist. Yet MS can use the exact same tactics to get Win10 in where it's not wanted? No way in hell.

Win10 collects such a massive load of your private data that MS has NO need to know about, then sends that data to MSHQ. It leaves any mic or webcam that you might have connected turned on & streaming to MS. Everything you type into the Search bar (or ask Cortana about) gets sent to MSHQ. Every time you alter or view a file on your system, that file & any changes are sent to MSHQ. It scans your local drives, any network drives, any USB style drives, & all other connected media for the files residing therein & sends that data to MSHQ. It notes every device you have connected & sends that data to MSHQ. It can, has, & will continue to determine which (if any) of those files, drives, or devices are "authorized" to be used on "your" system, then disable &/or delete them from the computer as they deem necessary. YOU don't get a say in this, it's THEIR operating system and THEY determine the "security measures needed to maintain a secure environment". So all your movies, music, porn, torrents, game cheats, pirated software, personal writings, *everything* is included in the "telemetry" that gets uploaded to MSHQ, and there's *fek all* you can do about it.

You can't block them with the built in firewall, blocking them with a hardware one stops MS from updating the system *at all*, and many of the address' MS uses were *hard coded* into the OS itself; you have to find some other way of blocking/redirecting them than a simple HOSTS file or the like.

It may be your computer, you've even got a bill of sale to prove it, but it's THEIR operating system & they'll do with it as they damn well feel. YOU don't get a choice in it... Except the choice not to run it in the first place. If it's not installed, then there's exponentially less telemetry going on, less MS control, & far fewer chances of "your" computer being used against you.

It's why folks are sticking with Win7 as long as possible, or going so far as to switch to either Apple or Linux. If we've got to buy a new computer anyway, then the jump to Apple isn't as costly as it otherwise would be. Linux has a steeper learning curve, but once you've figure out where your programs are stored, you're well on your way to Getting Shit Done.

It's not an upgrade if the end result is to force you to use your computer the way *they* tell you that you can use it.

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Re: Answers to your questions.

I was completely agreeing with you until you started on about what gets sent back to MS. You can on almost complete privacy with Windows 10. The same data slurp is present in windows 8 and 7.

Given that you use a SRE, have you considered using Vinux? I had to look into accessibility a few years back and this OS really impressed me. It can be ran from a USB stick, so you could have whatever OS installed in your box and just boot from Vinux.

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Re: Shadow Systems...

No idea who downvoted you. Downvoting someone who requires a SRE. Wow, that's low of them. :(

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Same old lie

"but it doesn't install itself and it certainly takes well more than one mouse click to start the process."

Still at it, then?

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> (Have to ask. Is your Windows 10 experience on a machine that came with W10 pre-installed by the manufacturer, or did you upgrade an older machine?)

So far all the boxen I've put W10 on are all old crap that barely ran XP/8. They're actually a bit better under W10, but they're a LOT better under Lubuntu (multibooters)

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You should read your EULA more carefully. Microsoft reserves the right to make changes to your system whenever they choose to do so. Regardless of what settings you may think you have. Well, technically it is not even "your" system. It is their system. They are just letting you use it.

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Barrel. Scraped.

"I volunteer as a recorder with a Talking Newspaper charity..."

So... nobody thought to disconnect the machine from the network while working? Odd. That's often the first thing you get told to do by experienced audio engineers.

Furthermore, a computer capable of handling voice recording through Audition (or even Audacity) costs peanuts today. Christ, you can even do multitrack audio recording on almost any tablet or smartphone! Didn't anyone in the room bring such a device with them? Nobody had access to a spare laptop? Nobody knew where to get one?

"I let my six-year-old play Minecraft on my gaming rig."

Of course, blame Microsoft for your decision to let your apparently illiterate six-year-old child play unsupervised with your expensive gaming rig. After all, what could possibly go wrong?

"...and that’s disaster for the box that’s meant to be streaming music to listeners 24/7."

Are you seriously running a mission-critical server on a box with a consumer desktop version of Windows installed on it? You are aware that there are versions of Windows that have "Server" in the name? Why do you think that is?

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Not one of the cry-me-a-river "stories" in this article holds up to scrutiny.

Vista is nine years old. Windows 7 is almost seven years old. How long do Android devices get support for? How long is that LTS version of Ubuntu supported for? What about Apple? Yet Microsoft is expected to provide ongoing support and patches for longer than their rivals, for free? Why? Only the heir to the throne to the Kingdom of Idiot could seriously expect this at the consumer level.

Corporations don't have to put up with this because (a) they pay Microsoft for their licenses, and (b) they pay their own IT people to set and manage their own updates. And they also have the option of paying Microsoft for ongoing support for legacy versions of Windows too, if they really feel like it.

Home / individual users are farming their IT support out to Microsoft directly, who are offering their support as a service for "free", using much the same definition of "free" as Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al.

You get what you pay for. The moon on a stick costs extra. Welcome to the Wonderful World of Corporations. Damn right they're in it for the money! All of them! Always! Microsoft, Apple, Google, Red Hat, Oracle... every damned one. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're lying.

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Re: Barrel. Scraped.

yes, but dont point out the obvious - it takes far more than one careless click to start the upgrade to Windows 10.

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Re: Barrel. Scraped.

Are you seriously running a mission-critical server on a box with a consumer desktop version of Windows installed on it? You are aware that there are versions of Windows that have "Server" in the name? Why do you think that is?

Another version that's just not fit for mission-critical operations, just with a different price tag to re-enable "features consumers are not interested in"?

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Re: Barrel. Scraped.

"Are you seriously running a mission-critical server on a box with a consumer desktop version of Windows installed on it? You are aware that there are versions of Windows that have "Server" in the name? Why do you think that is?"

I always assumed it was because the server versions contained extra features useful to people operating servers. Like the old 'Windows Home won't run remote desktop" - the Home versions are crippled so bulk licence purchase doesn't cut into the pro sales.

But if the Home version has the facilities needed, I would expect it to do the job. What you're saying is that it's a version that is inherently less reliable than the more expensive one.

I don't think that's reasonable. In fact, I think it's criminal.

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"In the interests of balance, your humble hack must point out that Windows 10 has now managed to find itself running on 300 million devices, according to Microsoft's own stats." As I've said many times, how many of those devices were forced to run Win10 by they're builders? Can you get a new pc from Dell, HP, ACER, Lenovo, etc. without Win10 preinstalled? And how many of those devices are toys computers (tablets, phones, etc.)?

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Trollface

As always...

Luser error.

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Not on my watch...

I don't like Windows 10. It's not that it is not pretting, functional or usable.

I don't care about the Windows Store, as long as I still can install stuff from other sources.

I don't care about Cortana, Edge or any other bullshit that MS wants to force on me as long as I can opt-out of it.

It is simply that it exceeds its purpose. It goes beyond duty and does things without my consent.

I don't want the OS to decide for me when and how I install updates.

I don't want the OS to decide for me what software can I run on MY computer.

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WTF?

What do you get when you cross Scientology with Disney?

Microsoft: they're relentless, they infiltrate everywhere and they charge a lot for mediocre product.

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In the end, I simply had to give my perfectly good windows 7 computer up for lost. The "update" slagged the file system. Programs couldn't save files to specific folders, only to the main one.

And that was after solid days of struggle just to get back to Windows 7, because 10 just flat didn't work.

A new computer that starts as a clean 10 is another story, but I would advise to never try and update any 7 to a 10.

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Your daughter did click on ransomware

The Windows 10 installer

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Re: Your daughter did click on ransomware

It's just a ransom to be paid when demanded *some unknown time in the future*

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Funny old world

Where something not quite as shit as windows 8 can be classed as a great update..

After a week of nagging, I took the win10 plunge, and it lasted another week before I went back to windows 7 and aero.

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Flame

OROROROROROROOOOOOOUUAAHHhhh~~~!

Just looking at the El Reg headlines reveals how utterly toxic and dis-empowering "consumer IT" has become.

Like getting rogered repeatedly by a cloudy, decadently embroidered and patent-encumbered elephant in must who demands money, proceeds to action, then pisses on you once his immediate needs have been fulfilled.

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Paris Hilton

Microsoft Managed Services via Windows 10

I have been considering the amount of Windows 10 connectivity to Microsoft and the telemetry that gets sent in. I would not be surprised if by next summer we start getting partner emails telling us we can manage our customer computers remotely via Microsoft Managed Services (MSMMS) once we register some ID generated on the customer computer in our partner dashboard.

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Shortly after Windows 10 was released into the wild, my (grown-up) daughter started getting the nagware to upgrade her Win 8.1 laptop to Win 10. She's reasonably computer literate at a user level, but was aware of Microsoft's record on updates, so asked me to do it for her. The update went well enough, if slowly. There were a few niggles, but nothing un-fixable - but then I discovered that nearly all the available disk space had vanished!

A quick google revealed that this was not uncommon on machines with small-ish drives, and recommended a "clean" install once the various keys had been recovered. Another couple of hours passed whilst this process went on, and I handed my daughter a fully functioning Windows 10 install on her laptop, with adequate disk space left over.

All went fine for a couple of months, then I got a call: "The screen is blank!". Sure enough, once past the initial boot stage - about the time the Intel graphics driver kicked in - the screen went blank and stayed that way.

"Safe" mode showed a graphics driver update coincided with the problem, but no amount of rolling back would undo the damage!

A fresh install went fine until it came time to install the updates, when again the screen went un-recoverably blank! Nothing I tried would stop that b*****d upgrade from installing itself at the first opportunity, and borking the whole machine!

After several hours (again!) of fighting the system, I wiped the disk, installed Mageia 5 Linux, and the machine has been running happily ever since. Daughter couldn't tell the difference between LibreOffice and Microsoft Office, and was very impressed by how much quicker and more responsive her old laptop had become!

So that's another convert to Linux, thanks to Microsoft! Keep up the good work, Redmond! At this rate, Linux will soon be the dominant desktop system, thanks to your efforts!

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Parents: voluntarily upgraded to OS X around the time of the Windows 8 debacle (they were on ancient XP and Vista laptops), funnily enough the amount of "support" calls has fallen off to pretty much zilch. Father-in-law clicked "yes" by accident, I ended up downgrading it for him (only one user file went AWOL), given his usage profile I think the next upgrade will be to one of the end-user-orientated Linux distros.

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Trollface

123 comments...

123 reasons to stick with OSX.

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Uh....

Why would anyone run mission-critical 24*7 stuff on Windows desktop anything? (I know, Windows server isn't much better, but even so...)

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Numpty

'I thought my daughter clicked on ransomware – it was the damn Windows 10 installer'

Then you are either

a: stupid, or

b: don't like it so make stuff up to create a story

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No Sweat

Load it, activate it and roll back to Windows 7 if that's what you prefer. If you change your mind you will be able to upgrade for free.

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Since Windows 10, I have been hijacked 11 times, my apps disappear after a week.

Anyone here like a brand new computer for free?

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Fortunately.. imaged both boxes, then tried to update.

2 computers. Both were Win7 Ultimate.

* ASUS yumcha with quad-core devils canyon CPU and 16gb ram. Everything else stock.

* Supermicro HS8GL mobo. 12-core opteron. 64gb ram. 1x sata disk. nVidia graphics.

The ASUS box truely is about as stock as it comes. I will grant the Opteron is slightly esoteric.

Both machines sucked the download down, tried to install and crapped out with the Gen-Y sad face.

Trying to restore previous O/S failed. Both systems bricked. So.. GFG microsoft. Don't trust you any more.

Fortunately I could spray my win7 images back off the NAS and restore "Myself".

For giggles an uncle's iMac that runs win7 pro, he clicked upgrade. Bricked it also.

Windows 10 has simplified my family support of systems. If it runs windows 10 or you've tried to install win10 .. call someone else and pay this time. It's given the family and extended family a really great appreciation of >15 years of fixing their systems.

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