Hello, Uncle Sid
@our lovely Uncle Sid
"I'm calling the desire to view these pictures as 'sick' because that is the viewpoint I hold, I realise that viewpoint is different to others, but does that make it less valid?"
A valid viewpoint is quite different from making something illegal. I believe there is a God. Some people believe there is no God. Which one should be made illegal since both ideas can't be correct? God forbid, we start bringing in things like Hinduism where a plethora of gods exist. Which ones should be sanctioned, if any? Which viewpoint matters? Which ones are sick and which ones are normal?
"I can't answer that for you, I'm not moralizing on what others wish to get up to in their own lives, the subject is the possession of pictures of "Necrophilia, Bestiality etc...""
Genuine necrophilia is already illegal. I'm in the US and we'd call that "abuse of a corpse." I don't know what Britain calls it. However, simulated necrophilia (a pale person lying very still) is completely legal when between two consenting adults of age.
Bestiality is also illegal in the states. I imagine the furry community would be devastated if viewing simulated bestiality was someone illegal. If it is an anthropomorphic cat yiffing with an anthropomorphic wolf, is it still bestiality?
What about drawings of acts that would be illegal? If I drew two stick figures and said "this one is raping that one" but it really just looked like some random lines, would that be illegal to own?
"As I've stated, I have no issue with what you get up to in your private life."
Ah, but you *do* have problems with what people do in their private life if you find their behavior sick enough to require a law forbidding it. You contradict yourself.
"I believe thats 'sick', you consider my view as arrogant, I don't. If others wish to insult me for that, then that displays their own intolerance, not mine."
You are seen as arrogant because you make no effort to see this from any point of view but your own. I can easily understand your view point. I don't want to look at "extreme porn". I tried once, following links from an article about "this is what will be illegal" and it actually made me feel physically ill.
So what? Should that make it illegal for some other person to print out a picture of it? Certainly not.
Maggots also make me ill. I wish we really could outlaw those. Ugh.
"I'm simply making the same statement most people would in the same situation."
Clearly you aren't making the same statement most people would be making since nobody else on this forum seems to agree with you.
"Now, if you take exception to the use of that word, doesn't that display a teensy weensy bit of an inability to allow others their opinion?"
One man's opinion should not be every man's law.
"I am technically literate, I take all the precautions I can to ensure that I and my family can surf the internet without being subjected to these pictures. however, even with all these precautions, I still find myself inadvertently, from time to time, coming across them."
How's that? I take very few precautions and have never found myself inadvertantly looking at porn, extreme or otherwise. I have well tuned spam filters, ad and flash blockers in my browser, and run no-script. I see exactly what I expect to see.
"Unfortunately there are a lot of people (yes, including children) who do not understand the danger of clicking a harmless looking link (or even one designed for the curious), and being subjected to a barrage of 'Extreme' porn. They normally do not have the technical savvy to make it stop. I know, I have had to wipe this crap off a lot of computers in my time."
No-script + Adblock Plus + Flashblock + Firekeeper would stop a great deal of that. There are some sites that provide PAC files you can use to black hole porn sites. There are some DNS providers that will black hole porn sites, too.
"The majority of internet users are not surfing for 'Extreme' porn (despite Michaels belief ~ you're really 'not' in the majority son), The majority want to be able to use the internet, without having to install lots of programs to make their surfing 'safer'."
If someone isn't willing to take control of their Internet experience, then they should have no expectation of being protected from malicious and salacious content. If there isn't someone coaching them on the dangers of the Internet, they need to stay off. Porn is the least of their worries what with worms infecting 15 million PCs, click-jacking, phishing, etc.
"So, We have the 'rights' of a small minority of the population, as opposed to the 'rights' of a majority of the population, now where do you think the politicians will look for the votes?"
I don't know how it works in Britain, but politicians are *supposed* to look out for every single person, especially those who are marginalized.
"Don't blame the Politicians or the general public, blame the people who thought the likes of "Goatse" was funny."
Goatse is funny, but only if you "rick roll" someone with it. It's pretty disgusting and shameful taken on its own.
Thanks, Sid, for continuing to put up with everyone on this forum.