back to article Jeff Bezos: I will depose King Trump

Amazon has taken the extraordinary step of moving to depose the President of the United States as part of its appeal against the Pentagon's decision to award the $10bn JEDI cloud contract to Microsoft. Attorneys for the internet shopping giant on Monday filed a motion [PDF] to depose Donald Trump, and senior government …

        1. EnviableOne Silver badge

          Re: To be honest ...

          Please understand the impeachment process:

          The house hearings are akin to a grand jury, where they decide if there is a case to answer and are held in closed sessions with the bi-partisan members of those comittees

          they call witnesses and subpoena evidence to weigh guilt or innocence

          the relevant house comites then vote to propose charges or not to the house floor

          The house then votes to impeach or not, a simple simple majority leads to impeachment

          this leads to a trial by the senate:

          the House appoints managers to act as the prosecution

          the defendant appoints their own leagal team as the defence

          The chief Justice of the Supreme court presides as Judge

          The Senate sit as the jury

          the first act is the trial rules are agreed upon by the senate

          previous impeachments have proceded similar to a trial, where both sides have opening arguments, present evidence, may call witnesses and these may be cross examined, followed by closing arguments.

          The senators then have a chance to speak as to their reasons

          there is then a vote to convict or not

          a simple majority convicts, a two thirds majority convicts and removes the defendant from office.

          if full co-operation is given at each stage and the entire process is carried out in a fair and balanced manner, there is no doubt as to the guilt or innocence of the defendant.

          the problem is in this case subpoenas were ignored and witnesses prevented from testifying at all stages, so the full facts were not available to the country and the senators at large, so the guilt or innocence can not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: To be honest ...

          Heil Cheetolini! First of his name! Our Divine Glorious Dotard Leader! Of the Proudly Willfully Ignorant Cult45!

        3. NerryTutkins

          Re: To be honest ...

          I love it when Trumpies go on a rant about "liberals".

          I would suggest that if you're absolutely fine with a guy running the country who fucks porn stars while his third wife is pregnant with his nth child, that would probably make you erm.... pretty liberal?

        4. WonkoTheSane Silver badge
          Headmaster

          Re: To be honest ...

          A hearing is NOT a trial.

        5. Kurt 4

          Re: To be honest ...

          cyke1 speaks the truth witnesses are to be called in the house where the democrats denied republicans the right to call any witnesses. This article is fake news and judging by the number of down votes on the truth, it shows people are totally clueless.

        6. steviebuk Silver badge

          Re: To be honest ...

          Trump was invited, Trump chose not to go.

          And anyway. In the impeachment trial, even some of the Republicans in the same of a process have stated "Yes, he did abuse his power but we're gonna let him off anyway".

    1. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: To be honest ...

      When I see what the Trump haters say about our president, and who it is that they are, it makes me LIKE TRUMP EVEN MORE!!

      In the mean time, you KNOW Bezos would NEVER do this against a president of "the other party". That makes it PARTISAN, POLITICAL, and therefore, FRIVOLOUS. He and his RIDICULOUS lawsuit should be LAUGHED out of the court room.

      "Sore loser" indeed.

      1. veti Silver badge

        Re: To be honest ...

        Bezos is no Democrat. He's donated to politicians and causes dear to both parties.

        But it's part of Trump's magic that he can make an enemy of anyone who is not sufficiently blindly devoted to him. See, e.g., Jeff Sessions, John Bolton, Gary Cohn, Gen. McMaster.

        1. stiine Silver badge

          Re: To be honest ...

          Wrong, he's donated to parties and candidates that he expects will get his company favourable fiscal policies, nothing more and nothing less.

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: To be honest ...

            In what way does that contradict what veti posted?

      2. jake Silver badge

        Re: To be honest ...

        "That makes it PARTISAN, POLITICAL, and therefore, FRIVOLOUS."

        Don't be silly, bob. It's capitalistic, pure and simple. Hate capitalism, bob? What are you, a commie lover like the idiot in chief?

      3. phuzz Silver badge

        Re: To be honest ...

        "you KNOW Bezos would NEVER do this against a president of "the other party""

        Mate, they'd sue anyone if they thought it would make them half a wooden nickel. If they could find profit in stealing candy from babies, then Amazon would be straight down the local kindergarten.

      4. Roger Kynaston

        Re: To be honest ... Bob

        We can hear you without shouting.

      5. anonanonanon

        Re: To be honest ...

        You're country is an international joke

        1. phuzz Silver badge
          Trollface

          Re: To be honest ...

          Your spelling is funnier.

    2. vaporland

      Re: To be honest ...

      I'm no fan of Bezos (not by a long shot!), but I wish him luck in this endeavor.

      #notme

    3. martinusher Silver badge

      Re: To be honest ...

      "acquitted by Republican senators" -- no. its what's called in this part of the world "jury nullification".

      The reason for the impeachment proceedings wasn't really anything specific like Ukraine but trying to deal with this creeping 'rule by decree'. Trump could express an opinion on the matter of this contract -- anyone can -- but the idea that a President could intervene directly in a contract to favor one party over another is just plain wrong, it opens the door to steering contracts to 'friends and family' and a whole sewer's worth of corruption. The GoP as a party goes along with the current situation because they think its currently to their advantage, both personally and as a party, and they think they can control Trump if and when they need to. They're making the same mistake others have throughout history -- they won't be able to control the person, he will end up controlling them, and then we're in real trouble.

    4. Handle123456

      Re: To be honest ...

      To be honest the whole "trial" was a farce set up by "democrats" that never accepted the result of the elections. The "crime" of asking the Ukrainians to restart the investigation that was stopped due to Joe Biden's threat of stopping the aid. The senile nepotist's boasting about how they sacked the attorney after he ordered them to is recorded and online. But yeah funneling US taxpayers' money through Burisma to his son's bank account is absolutely fine, forcing a foreign government to stop investigation is fine, telling them they are free to restart the investigation is a high crime.

      1. deadlockvictim Silver badge

        Re: To be honest ...

        So true!

        When Bill Clinton was being impeached, I thought the exact same thing.

        To be honest the whole "trial" was a farce set up by "trial" set up by "republicans" that never accepted the results of the elections. The president was just doing what presidents always have done. It is a part of the presidential privilege and what they did was simply a partisan attack on the office.

      2. khjohansen

        Re: To be honest ...

        .. You need to read up on the details around Ukrainian prosecutor general Victor Shokin and his resignation.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: To be honest ...

        Why are spouting the completely debunked Biden bullshit? Are you trolling, or incredibly ignorant?

        1. jake Silver badge

          Re: To be honest ...

          Check the spelling. If they can spell, they are probably trolling (bob, for example). If their spall chucker don't do reel gud, they probably believe the bullshit they are parroting.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: To be honest ...

            How should we "view" the people "who" overuse "quotation" marks throught "their" posts?

            Are THEY as bad as the RANDOM caps-LOCKERS?

      4. veti Silver badge

        Re: To be honest ...

        If there is any evidence that Biden did the things you attribute to him, then Trump could have directed the Department of Justice to investigate him. He could have appointed anyone he liked to head that investigation. (I keep hearing that Rudy Giuliani is a great corruption prosecutor.) That's what he would do, if he were serious about investigating corruption.

        But Trump didn't do that. Instead, he called the president of a foreign country -, a country that was at that moment particularly vulnerable and dependent on US aid that had already been duly voted through by a bipartisan consensus in Congress - and made it clear that they wouldn't be getting this aid unless they made a public statement that appeared to incriminate the Bidens.

        (Whether or not there was any actual investigation, or whatever the outcome of that investigation may be, was completely immaterial to him. All he wanted was the announcement.)

  1. Beau
    Devil

    It's about time those Republican Senators, permitted King Trump, to issue simple commands like; off with their heads, or to the gallows with him.

    At least then everyone would know exactly what is happening in Washington, instead of all this constant nonsense!

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Yes, but then they'd have to have another revolution...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        At least Bezos could count on the French on his side and being anti-monarchy again.

        Probably along with the British these days, as long as it was more than 52% ;)

        1. IGotOut

          Sorry it would take the 52% at least 3 years to even start to get involved...

        2. Mike 16 Silver badge

          Anti Monarchy?

          The most famous French participant in the U.S. War of independence, the Marquis de Layfayette, was a French Nobleman, and was apparently put up to it by Mad George's younger brother. _Much_ later (1830?) although he helped dispose of one (corrupt) french king, it was to install another (less corrupt) one (Louis Phillipe?), albeit as a constitutional Monarch. So it was not exactly full throated anti-monarchism that motivated him (and others).

        3. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

          It's time for Revolution 2: Electric Boogaloo.

          1. Citizens untied

            I love the idea of the confrontation escalating, and then one day, all of the prime delivery trucks transform into urban assault vehicles, deliver millions of prime "revolution boxes" to every porch that DIDN'T use Alexa...

      2. jake Silver badge

        Nah.

        "they'd have to have another revolution..."

        No need in that example ... SCotUS would never approve.

        Probably.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It must really rankle Il Douchie

    ... that Bezo has way more cash than him.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It must really rankle Il Douchie

      Na, it's Bezos' success that really grates.

      And that he's not filed for bankruptcy. Four times.

      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: It must really rankle Il Douchie

        "And that he's not filed for bankruptcy. Four times."

        Not yet, anyway. He's young, there's still time.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: It must really rankle Il Douchie

          Good point.

          The Donald had his 1st bankruptcy by the age of 46 and Bezos is now 56.

          Loooooser!

          1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

            Re: It must really rankle Il Douchie

            We have the best bankruptcies. The biggest bankruptcies. Let me tell you, the whole world is envious of our bankruptcies.

    2. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge

      Re: It must really rankle Il Douchie

      It's not just Bezos that's rattling him now - he's started on Bloomberg too given the polls.

      Time for some popcorn...

  3. <script>alert('the register');</script>

    Let's be real here. AWS is by far the best 'all in' Cloud provider in terms of features, Azure's File Storage doesn't even support custom domain HTTPS yet unless you proxy it.

    No matter what you think of Amazon, they had this boxed.

    I was firmly against Richard Branson sueing the NHS off the back of no evidence, but this is a different matter entirely.

    1. rajivdx

      Am I missing something here? Azure seems to support Custom domain HTTPS, even for file storage:

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/cdn-custom-ssl?tabs=option-1-default-enable-https-with-a-cdn-managed-certificate

      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cdn/cdn-storage-custom-domain-https

      Less fake news, more facts please.

      1. <script>alert('the register');</script>

        Look at the date of the post! Last month. I've been using Azure for 2 years

  4. cyke1

    Bezo's is mad that original contract which was tailored for AMAZON was shutdown when MS, google and oracle if i remember correctly complained about how it was designed that only amazon could meat the requirements.

    1. Inventor of the Marmite Laser Silver badge

      meat the requirements.

      Sausages!

      1. jake Silver badge

        Re: meat the requirements.

        Bacon, Shirley.

        1. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

          Re: meat the requirements.

          Spam, bacon, sausage and Spam

          #GNUTerryJones

  5. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
    Joke

    Mrs Merton

    “So Mr President, what first attracted you to the billionaire Jeff Bezos?”

    1. vaporland

      Re: Mrs Merton

      perhaps his walleyed stare?

  6. marcusbennett

    Go Jeff Go!

  7. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    Rather than crying over spilt soured milk, get down to the nitty gritty of the feast.

    There is absolutely nothing to stop a Jeff Bezos championing a Private Shadow JEDI Program, which because it is not bound up in mountains of military pork red tape and secret executive third party requirements, easily leaves a perceived to be publicly funded competition behind and struggling in its wake.

    Well, absolutely nothing of course, apart from a lack of necessary intelligence.

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