back to article Great Scott! Is nothing sacred? US movie-goers vote Back To The Future as most-wanted reboot

It's been clear for decades that Hollywood is almost completely out of ideas and nothing is sacred when mining the past for inspiration. Disney, not content with flogging Marvel's back catalogue until everyone's sick to death of it, has set about rebooting its animated classics in live-action (read: CGI) remakes (I mean, you …

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"'a queer'? Nice one, bigot."

Dangerous opinion here, but why do you let silly people calling you names hurt you so much? Just ignore them, they aren't worth getting upset over. I was crap at sports at school and wore glasses, so you should be able to work out what my childhood was like most of the time.

I didn't go crying to teacher every time someone called me a nasty name, I IGNORED THEM. It's only words and if you refuse to let them get to you then guess what? You can survive. You will survive. Even if they refuse to use your real name, calling you whatever makes them "happy", let them get on with it. Their words do not make you any more or less valuable as a member of society, it just shows them up as small-minded bullies.

We don't need laws and committees to stop verbal abuse, we just need to show the "victims" that they are not the ones with a problem.

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Re: Great Scott!

"'a queer'? Nice one, bigot."

That's a nasty assumption there. Are you offended on your own behalf or on behalf of someone else? How do you know that the poster doesn't self-identify as "queer"? One of my colleagues does and takes great delight in outraging those who take offence on behalf of others on a night out :-p

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@not.known@this.address Re: Great Scott!

The children are taking the reigns. Woe to thee oh earth and sea. Life was totally shit, fucked up, miserable, when we were at the butt-end of those people... until we learned about, say, the French peasants.

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Re: Great Scott!

You can tell a lot about someone's attitude by the language they use. Sorry, the "mangled into a queer" phrase dripped venom and casual unpleasantness.

And no its not about essentially "growing a pair" - if you are constantly belittled and insulted and are then told to essentially "get over it" it shows that you don't have a clue.

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They hinted left and right she liked girls. They didn't need to do that. Hence, "mangled". The former show worked without it.

If it was her daughter, it would be A-OK, regardless of her sexuality, implied or not. That's what makes reboots so bad, in general: try to do something never mentioned in the original.

Venom and casual unpleasantness, excellent, I liked those. Fit for purpose.

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Re: Great Scott!

What sort of LGTBQI treatment could they give to a remake of The Rocky Horror Picture Show?

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Do it in style

What car would they use? There is nothing like the iconic DeLorean DMC12 in production today. No doubt some manufacturer would see it as a golden marketing oppurtunity, but given the current US car market about the only choices are SUVs.

How long would it take a 2 ton SUV to get up to 88mph?

At least they could go back in time to the early 1900s, when tall, square shaped, big wheeled cars were last in fashion, and not look out of place.

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Re: Do it in style

What car? Clearly a Tesla. Marty will still be an idiot who struggles to outrace a VW van loaded down with terrorists despite driving a vehicle capable of hitting 88 MPH in about 50 feet.

I for one am looking forward to the reboot, mostly for the rebooted sequel, so that I can get a super accurate preview of what 2050 will look like!

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How long would it take a 2 ton SUV to get up to 88mph?

About same time as DMC12 if the SUV is something like X5 4.4i or similar given the 2.85 litre PRV V6 only had about 130hp and 200 Nm of torque.

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What car? Clearly a Tesla. Marty will still be an idiot who struggles to outrace a VW van loaded down with terrorists despite driving a vehicle capable of hitting 88 MPH in about 50 feet.

Might take bit longer than that. DMC12 was bit underpowered compared to its looks.

The movie was accurate in one way though, the original alternator was too weak and battery would end up flat if everything was turned on. Later cars did have better alternator.

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Re: Clearly a Tesla

No, that's for the remake of Christine. Where the car kills people. By deliberately running into semis and dividers and stuff.

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Re: Do it in style

About 20 seconds with a Diesel

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"There is nothing like the iconic DeLorean DMC12 in production today."

There's two iconic things about the Delorian: it's looks, and the fact that it was a massive flop.

Any replacement would need to tick both of these boxes, so Tesla doesn't qualify.

Mind you, I guess they do share the 'larger than life founder who you can imagine ending up in a drug deal'...

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"I for one am looking forward to the reboot, mostly for the rebooted sequel, so that I can get a super accurate preview of what 2050 will look like!"

It's already been done, it was called "Idiocracy"

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Re: Do it in style

Somehow I don't think "The carbon-nanotube fibre composite body is ideal for flux dispersal" would ride well.

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Not just no

But hell no.

It'll probably get made, and if it does, I'll ignore that it exists.

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Re: Not just no

Hear, hear. BttF is probably the best movie trilogy ever released, and I for one am not about to lend even a sliver of encouragement to those who would batten their own lack of talent on its quality.

Heck, I'd rather see a remake of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. With Tom Hanks and Jim Carrey, and the inevitable cameo by director Quentin Tarantino.

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Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

I saw that first movie was first impressed by the eye candy and then realized the dialog was 100% cliche.

Did they find another cliche dictionary to use for the second one?

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Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

You mean blue Pocahontas?

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Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

@MiguelC, I always preferred to refer to it as "Dances With Smurfs".

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Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

Maybe that's why I didn't like Avatar -- there wasn't enough eye candy in the world to hide the fact that the actual story was just a poorly-written retread.

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Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

yes, the comparison between how American Indians were treated in the 1800's was painfully obvious in Avatar. However, the movie was still entertaining, and had a fairly standard plot of 'oppressed vs oppressor'.

When it's entertaining, I can overlook the underlying SJW'ness. Choke the bile a bit and wash it down with popcorn and soda. Or if I'm at home, pizza and beer. Or tequila.

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Re: Reboot Avatar? Yuck!

I say we take off, nuke the entire site from orbit. That way none of us have to give a f*** about some giant tree defended by space smurfs. It's the only way to be sure.

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"You mean blue Pocahontas?"

Yes! I actually said that out loud in the theater as I was watching it: "This is just a remake of Pocahontas!"

And using the element name unoptanium? Really?!? That name had been a joke among us geeks and engineers forever.

After all the hype, I was greatly disappointed in Avatar and never went back to see Avatar 2.

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Who'd a thunk it?

US movie-goers vote Back To The Future as most-wanted reboot

Who'd a thunk it? Turns out Americans actually do understand irony.

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About time for a Matrix Sequel

There is only Matrix film at the moment

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I hope they get what they deserve.

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Suggestions for the putative BttF remake:

Give Marty more of a back story. Lots of intoning about how he was born for greatness, destined to be a saviour.

Up the stakes a little. He should be trying to save the entire universe from complete destruction across all time, not just his own family.

Also, the payoff needs to be larger. Don't just have his family be rich while Biff's are suddenly subservient. Make him president or something.

The Doc is too old to be hanging out with children. Replace him with a wise-cracking tweenager. It'll open up a whole new demographic.

Obviously he's not going back to the 1950s now, he's actually going back to the 1980s. So his dad can't be a nerd because everybody thinks nerds are cool now. Make him more like Bender from Breakfast Club but, you know, not 30. Actually, get rid of him altogether. In this movie Marty has to become his own dad.

With no dad to play off, maybe give him a robotic dog as a sidekick?

88mph is too slow, and we can't really be doing that light-hearted stuff with terrorists. In this version he has to base jump and reach terminal velocity. He first goes back in time because he's an extreme dude whose bungee cord fails. Probably somewhere in China, to hit that demographic. Actually, make the robotic dog Chinese. We know some guys who can do Chinese accents right?

Also it's way too long until he actually travels back in time — something like the entirety of act one is set in the present day. Let's just open with him already back in time, and leave whether he gets back to the present for a sequel.

Also, this Marty guy doesn't seem very interesting. Maybe make the robotic dog the star?

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You are an evil genius, and I fear that two years from now we'll be re-reading your comment and thinking how prescient it was.

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And the scenes set in the past should be done in sepia tone.

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Suggestions for the putative BttF remake:

Start showing current Doctor Who regenerating into Marty McFly.

What?

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@TomH: The sequel will be worthless if there isn't a vampire.

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...and zombies. Don't forget the zombies!

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Did'nt

the film spaceballs have the bit where they were already making the sequel before the 1st film was finished?

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@Boris the Cockroach

I think you're thinking of History of the World? And it never got finished?

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Spaceballs had the wonderful scene where they were watching the VHS tape of the movie as it was being made, and found themselves watching themselves watching themselves, etc...

"What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?"

"Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now, is happening now."

"What happened to then?"

"We passed then."

"When?"

"Just now. We're at now now."

"Go back to then."

"When?"

"Now."

"I can't."

"Why?"

"We missed it."

The icon is for Spaceballs The Flamethrower ("the kids love this one")

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About time for "Spaceballs 2:The Search for More Money"...

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There is plenty of original material

There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi.

You can spend the next 100 years doing series with weekly episodes based just on Neil Asher's Polity universe or David Brin's Uplift universe.

There is plenty of "film level" original material which will make into a blockbuster movie like Adrian Tchaikovski Ironclads.

You CAN make a blockbuster out of a good book (as Ender's game has proven). And you should.

Enough f*** reboots, prequels and sequels. Screw em all.

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Re: There is plenty of original material

> "There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi."

Sure is, but two things get in the way. One is that "Sci Fi" has been flooding the market for some time now, and most of that flood is just the usual plot gumbo, with lasers. That's what the public thinks Sic Fi is.

The other thing is that real Science Fiction is unsettling and confusing to a lot of movie goers. It may be fine for discerning readers, but the usual film crowd doesn't want to think too much. It's scary, and not in a good way.

Spandex heroes are safe, and pretty much guarantee at least some decent return on investment. Sigh fi...

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Re: There is plenty of original material

To make room for a more involved plot a TV series is often a better match than a movie - Westworld, Handmaid's Tale, Altered Carbon. For short, sharp plots an anthology series works - Black Mirror, Electric Dreams.

Movies fill that gap between a 1 hour runtime and an 8 hour runtime.

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Re: There is plenty of original material

I always thought Samuel R Delany's Nova would make excellent fodder for the big screen.

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Re: There is plenty of original material

"There is plenty of original material for Sci Fi.

You can spend the next 100 years doing series with weekly episodes based just on Neil Asher's Polity universe or David Brin's Uplift universe."

Or classics as well as modern -

Hal Clement, Mission of Gravity

Arthur C Clarke, Childhood's End

Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers (really based on the book, this time)

Keith Laumer, any of the Retief stories

Phillip K Dick, The Unteleported Man

Joe Haldeman, The Forever War

Greg Bear, The Forge of God

Patrick Tilley, Fade Out

James H Schmitz, The Demon Breed

Clifford Simak, The Big Front Yard

Frank Herbert, The Dragon in the Sea (British: Under Pressure)

Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, Footfall

.... and so on ...

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"To make room for a more involved plot a TV series is often a better match than a movie - Westworld, Handmaid's Tale, Altered Carbon."

Dark Matter

Counterpart

Defiance

Humans

Person of Interest

Traveler

12 Monkeys

Continuum

And on the fantasy side -

Lucifer

Penny Dreadful

Warehouse 13

The Magicians (if you can get by the annoying first season)

iZombie (exception to rule that all zombie tv shows are garbage)

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Re: There is plenty of original material

I read somewhere that is The Forever War is in production (or possibly production hell). There is already a 3 part TV miniseries of Childhoods End.

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Larry Niven - Ringworld et al.

Phil.

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Re: There is plenty of original material

"Arthur C Clarke, Childhood's End"

Already been done recently as a mini-series.

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Re: There is plenty of original material

I have just seen a trailer for Mortal Engines. Some stuff is too outlandish to be filmified.

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Why not go the whole hog....

....and remake some of those oh-so dated films that could really benefit from extensive CGI and green-screening. And more appropriate actors/actresses too.

The Shawshank Redemption (Adam Sandler and Jamie Foxx)

The Princess Bride (Channing Tatum, Mark Wahlberg and Sandra Bullock)

The Godfather (Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller and Meryl Streep)

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Re: Why not go the whole hog....

There is NO WAY to make The Princess Bride any better than it is.

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Re: Why not go the whole hog....

> There is NO WAY to make The Princess Bride any better than it is.

A Very Deadpool Christmas. Ryan Reynolds told Fox he'd support a cert PG version of Deadpool 2 if some proceeds went to Fuck Cancer and if he could kidnap Fred Savage.

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