back to article Windows 10 1809: Now arriving on a desktop near you (if you want it)

Windows 10 October 2018 update is here, having skipped past the Release Preview phase, and can be downloaded now if you can’t wait for it to make an automatic appearance. Windows 10 1803 screenshot Click to enlarge While many observers (us included) expected a release date for Windows 10 to be secreted among the hardware …

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  1. rich436

    4K

    f you play 4K from your computer and want to have HDR, then you have to install this update.

  2. Stephen Portsafe

    Edge in 1809

    Some people have found Edge will not load websites if IPv6 is not enabled on their system after installing 1809. The current fix being to enable IPv6.

    1. Gordon 11

      Re: Edge in 1809

      Some people have found Edge will not load websites if IPv6 is not enabled on their system after installing 1809. The current fix being to enable IPv6.

      Surely a simpler fix is not to use Edge?

      1. Stephen Portsafe

        Re: Edge in 1809

        As of 1803, Edge became "usable" and continues to improve. And for those who check, perhaps it improves more noticeably than other browsers, as it was so comparatively barebones when it arrived in 2015.

        Regardless of how many people do or do not use it, some folks do. Worldwide it's millions. I use it sometimes (the times I find myself on Windows 10 machines), and I've grown to like it as it keeps getting better. I'd probably use it all the time, but the long term branch version of Windows I employ doesn't have it.

        Moreover, many people are looking for ABC/Google alternatives e.g. I use Firefox on my main drivers, I've signed up for Minds and Bitchute (and actually visit from time to time), often deliberately use search that's Bing based, and have a whole host of Google's tracking domains deadsunk in a hosts file.

        So I have no issue with my original post.

  3. Nick Collingridge

    “A worthy update”

    Really? That’s being very generous indeed! Fanboy, not at all.

  4. Steve Jackson

    I had to laugh at the "updated" Edge menu's striking familiarity to the Internet Explorer menu.

    Has it really been hidden away so long that the design team hit on that purely by chance?

  5. John 61
    Meh

    You'll need a spare couple of hours (on a consumer machine)

    Took me 1 3/4 hours to download and install, as well as another hour or so for Windows Update to do its blue screeny thing. Then there was the Windows Store updating programs thing which took another 15 minutes.

    Took 5 hours in total on my sister's laptop as WU kept crashing (she went shopping as I babysat the computers). If you do decide to download and you're on a laptop, plug the damned thing in as you'll have no battery. It's 1.88Gb in size, and will take you to build 17763.1, and is nothing to write home about.

    Oh, yes almost forgot, during installation on me sister's laptop it flip-flopped between "initializing" and "pending install". If this happens restart the machine and once rebooted run WU again and it should then carry on installing.

  6. Roger B

    Broke syncing for me

    It took about 4 hours on my very very old Pentium dual core desktop to finish sorting it self out, but only about 30 minutes on my not so old i3 machine with ssd. My surface tablet though is still on 1803 and not seeing any sort of update which I think is why my Edge browser has lost all but 2 of my Favourites, I guess its only showing the 2 sites because they were added when I was using the tablet and now the syncing is broken.

    Not really seen any changes yet, dark mode is nice though and its good to seem some more options in the right click menu in the Edge browser, oh and HomeGroup is no more.

  7. big_D Silver badge

    RP? I thought it was RTM

    But as it doesn't need to be pressed on DVDs any more, I guess the manufacturing falls away.

    I prefer Mary Jo's version of RTM - Release To Muggles.

  8. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

    It'll tie up older PCs that still use spinning disks for a long time. But even a fast computer with an SSD will be tied up for at least 15-30 minutes. People who use their computers for a living, you know, who actually need it to do their job, will be pissed off as usual. Microsoft have to find a way to do their feature updates without a reboot for people to stop thinking the whole process is a joke.

    And another thing. This 'fast boot' thing where when you shut down it really only does a log-out-and-hibernate so that it'll start up quicker next time will get turned on if it was turned off. This would be great if it worked. We all know that Windows needs to be rebooted from time to time because it's 'gone wrong'. So people shut it down and start it up again. Except that is NOT the same as a reboot. Problems persist, time is wasted. We see people's computers not having been properly actually rebooted for weeks sometimes. So once again, Microsoft haven't thought something through. Windows needs rebooting regularly to work properly. Shutting it down every night isn't the same thing. People naturally assume that if it's not working they should 'turn it off and on again' and that makes no difference.

    What microsoft need to do is to make the system reliable enough that it doesn't need rebooting every few days, and that's a tall order.

    And before anyone downvotes me, I can say that it's our number 1 fix for our 600-odd customer end users' problems. They have a problem, we ask them to RESTART, and they protest, saying they've done that. So we explain that they haven't. We talk them through the process and the problem is fixed.

    1. J J Carter Silver badge

      It's radical but why don't you set the active hours between 12 midnight and 5am, so the update happens when you've toddled up the wooden hill to bedfordshire?

  9. Natalie Gritpants Jr

    Dark mode themeing is always broken

    Given that anything in HTML can specify the background colours and the viewer either respects them or throw away any colour information (e.g. keyword highlighting)

    A good solution to blinding white screens is NegativeScreen from https://github.com/mlaily/NegativeScreen for Windows newer than XP. It even works with ClearType fonts. OK it's no good for photos but normal mode is just a win-alt-V away.

  10. Sixtysix
    Joke

    LESS Pleasant? Than WHAT?

    "Take it to the Edge"

    "The Edge browser <...> nag screen at the start, suggesting users link their browser to their mobile device is, however, a bit less pleasant."

    Dear heavens - "less pleasant" is FAR too light a roast for that nonsense!

    I'd suggest "a step too far"...

  11. #define INFINITY -1 Bronze badge

    "branch readiness"

    I had switched one of my machines to 'Semi-Annual Channel' and checking for updates doesn't offer this one; another machine has the default 'Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted)' and it is busy installing now. I point this out as the article doesn't mention these channels.

  12. J J Carter Silver badge
    Windows

    Lets get real

    This is just the best ever Windows 10 OS, it's the best ever OS.

  13. Fading Silver badge
    Facepalm

    Doesn't play well...

    With the intel audio display driver (intcdaud.sys vers 10.25.0.3 – 10.25.0.8). Notification here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4465877/what-needs-your-attention-intel-audio-display-notification

    As with every update - good luck out there........

  14. Long John Silver

    Fond memories

    I recollect the early days of personal computing being exiting. Adherents to the Microsoft way of doing things were assailed by notable improvements to Windows and to products running on it. Major Windows updates were eagerly anticipated. I recall NT as a milestone in reliability. Fascinating developments, many spurred by advances in networking technologies, continued, albeit with less haste, up to Windows 7. Up to that point I, and doubtless many others, both professional and enthusiast, would eagerly await news and pre-release reviews in specialist printed magazines. For me that ended with the advent of easy (relatively to before) to install Linux distributions configurable to work happily with a wide range of hardware.

    However, emanations from Microsoft continue to fascinate by titillating a morbid sense of humour. I retain 'evaluation' versions, encapsulated in virtual machines, of Windows 7 and 10 merely because there very occasionally is software requiring full Windows rather than Wine. Indeed, hardly ever nowadays is Windows/Wine of any use to me. Yet, watching the antics of the 'upgrade' from Windows 7+ to 10 and subsequent bug fixes and 'improvements' to 10, is source of amusement.

    I conclude that Windows 10's evolutionary steps, which can be delayed but not halted, no longer enthral either IT professionals or humble users. They look to have become a burden and offer rapidly diminishing returns of functionality. Perhaps that is a transient stage before long term stability takes hold.

    What's also clear is how all this coincides with a shift of Microsoft marketing towards software rental and to retaining control of its 'intellectual property' by pretence of requirement for regularly 'calling home' offering enhanced services to customers. Moreover, at ordinary 'consumer' level, desktop/laptop Windows is becoming centred upon home entertainment and shopping. Fair enough if that's what people want. However, at this level, Windows 10 seemingly is becoming ever less configurable according to user whim; large elements of its offered functionality and of its hidden functionality are beyond user control. Nevertheless, savvy users can still more or less make Windows dance to their tune.

    That said, things to come bode ill for people who regard their computing devices their own absolute fiefdom. Microsoft, with its huge footprint in personal computing, is now well placed to offer its services as protector of so-called 'intellectual property rights'. For instance, 'Windows Defender' cannot be entirely switched off; it's a simple step to make it seek out and destroy copyright infringing material of any nature. Already compulsory regular 'security updates' would enable installing hashes of known infringing 'content' to be placed on user devices; specific 'calling home' cannot be ruled out either. Additionally, Defender, or similar, could root around within installed software to seek embedded authorisation code. Another step is to implement (on regional basis) site-blocks on behalf of governments; even if VPN is used (or allowed) the operating system should be able to ascertain site addresses and block access. Also, it could locate and nullify code supporting 'unauthorised' alternatives to the conventional WWW.

    Thus, for a modest fee, Microsoft can put itself forth as the most effective preventative of copyright infringement (digital), at least for the huge swathe of the world's population locked into Microsoft products. Given Microsoft's immense proselytisation of itself via free/cheap versions of its software for use in schools and universities (doubtless linked to a financial 'donation') its position is pretty much ensured. That, at least until its effective monopoly is challenged. It's not to the personal interests of legislators to do that. Not just for the sake of bribes from discrete Microsoft agents but also because copyright cartels have many legislators firmly in their pockets.

    So, excitement at forthcoming Windows security and feature updates shall continue but of different tenor. Knowledgable people will await with trepidation the next restriction imposed on use of their devices and access to the Internet. An additional frisson shall come through speculation over whether Microsoft is slipping something in without fanfare.

  15. largefile

    Updated home build older desktop, Surface 3 and Surface Book 2. No problems.

    Uneventful update. No issues on anything.

  16. binary
    Linux

    Windows arriving on a desktop near you...

    After all these years, watching the paint dry on the wall while waiting for the Windows update slugs to finish their slow chore, I still wonder what "improvements" is Microsoft talking about?

  17. MJI Silver badge

    What is broken?

    Each update breaks something, what are the targets this time?

    BTW still 7 here

  18. subminiature

    6 out of 8 installed

    Two desktops, Dell venue 8 pro. Lenovo MXII700 installed without issue. The HP 7 Steam also updated when it repeatedly failed on 1803. A third desktop rebooted with no text on icons, menus or file explorer. Another reboot from cold solved that.

    A Revo RL70 that failed on 1803 got to the finial update at 81% and hung. It reverted to 1709. A desktop HP PC fails to load windows and is in a loop of not being able to repair itself.

    So 6 out of 8. It was also 6 out of 8 on the 1803 with the RL70 not being able to install, not even off a USB memory stick since 1709, getting to 81% and locking up.

  19. aqk
    Coat

    NO! XP WAS THE BEST EVER!

    I've been using Build17763 for a week or two now. ( as well as 2 or 3 flavours of Linux)

    OMG. Now I have to read all the El-Rag comments here?

    From the usual gang of weenie suspects (yes I know who you are) that said:

    - " I WILL NEVER GIVE UP MY XP FOR SOME WEE LUCKY CHARMS!"

    - "Hey! Yes, Vista was BAD! But M$ has improved it!"

    - "Windows 7 is the best EVER! Who would upgrade it to some shitty M$ Windows-10?"

    - "You will HAVE TO PRY MY WIN-XP OUT OF MY COLD DEAD MOUSE!"

    - "FUCK YOU, M$ ! I AM SWITCHING TO LINUX! And by 2017, we will all be running LINUX on our desktops!"

    And so it goes..(sigh) why is this even a news item on El Rag?

    OH! You have actually read this far? OK- Look below. There is a downvote button to click on.(but you already knew that) Hey, just making it easier for you tired old unimaginative bozos. I expect AT LEAST 100 downvotes by Nov 15! So I can impress my girlfriend with what I comment on....

    1. onefang Silver badge

      Re: NO! XP WAS THE BEST EVER!

      You'll have to try harder to get 100 downvotes. Just to help you out, coz I'm a helpful kinda guy, here's one.

  20. thexfile
    Facepalm

    Microsoft pulls 1809 from update.

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