back to article Trump shouldn't criticise the news media, says Amazon's Jeff Bezos

Jeff Bezos, owner of the US Washington Post newspaper, has opined that it is "dangerous" for America's mop-haired 45th president Donald Trump to criticise the media. Bezos, the world's richest man and gros fromage of the sprawling Amazon online services empire, had a pop at The Donald after one of the latter's wearyingly …

Anonymous Coward

Re: "As far away from Trumpton as possible."

I'l raise you a Clanger and hope to see Donald on the Moon without any air (or hair for that matter)

5
1
Silver badge

Re: Missed opportunity...

Toronto is also on that list. And if I were Bezos I'd build it there and make sure to make it clear that it's all because of trump. Why would you want to expand business in a country that is doing it's best to alienate the rest of the world and is fast become a 3rd world theocracy.

8
1
Silver badge

Re: "As far away from Trumpton as possible."

"I'll see your Trumpton and your Chigley, and drop you a Clanger"

We need more Wombles to clean up the mess!

4
0
Silver badge

There's a difference between criticising and attack. Trump doesn't criticise the press, he attacks it. The last thing he wants is for someone people who trust and pay attention to, to point out he has no clothes and lives in a swamp. Classic disinformation campaign (not solely used by the Russians but they do it so well). Flood information channels with as many false narratives as you can, degrade noise to signal ratio and thrive in the dysfunctionality of the chaos you’ve created.

34
4

Media? Does he mean news reporting, cause it's not the same.

There isn't really any news reporting in the US today. There are "News Shows" that look like news, sound like news but they don't actually report news.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CBS, etc. USED to report news (way back in the 80s/90s) but about the time "reality tv" became popular they changed the programming of these channels to "all opinion, all the time" and now it's barely better than Jerry Springer's show. They shout their opinion at each other (especially when they have a guest representing the "other side"). I'm surprised no one has thrown a chair yet.

US reporting news can only be found on the local level and a handful of newspapers, but even those have their slant based on the owners political affiliation.

It makes me sick, because I remember when there was real news reporting. They came on TV and told you what's happening without their injected opinion and they let the viewer draw their own conclusions. I guess they think we're just too stupid to do that these days.

Bezos is part of the problem just like Murdock was. The terrible thing is it's not balanced anymore. There used to be the same amount of right/left rhetoric out there but now the leftist view has nearly snuffed out every voice on the right (only Fox and talk radio remains) which is unfortunately making the average American believe the left view is mainstream, just because it's almost all they hear on TV & in movies now. Once my generation moves on, the younger generation (who never saw what REAL news reporting is) will just roll over and ingest their socialist opinions as truth.

It's a shame and once it happens and our country falls, you folks in other countries are going to realize how much good our country does in the world. It will, of course, be too late by then.

Enjoy the show.

9
15
Silver badge

Re: Media? Does he mean news reporting, cause it's not the same.

There used to be the same amount of right/left rhetoric out there but now the leftist view has nearly snuffed out every voice on the right

OK, I don't live there, but from what I've seen of US media, I find that very hard to swallow.

Granted, what passes for leftist in the US would make New Labour think they'd gone too far right.

14
0
Anonymous Coward

Re: Media? Does he mean news reporting, cause it's not the same.

A few years ago Fox News was not actually a news channel but an entertainment channel - apparently they didn't want to follow the licensing conditions for the former. Is this still the case ?

7
1
Silver badge

Re: Media? Does he mean news reporting, cause it's not the same.

Here's Snopes take on it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fox-in-box/

0
0

Re: Media? Does he mean news reporting, cause it's not the same.

- Reagan introduced legislation that allowed for biased news reporting, before that it was legally required to report both sides to a story

- Assessed from a distance, your USA politics 'left' is just right in the middle, USA's citizens are so self-obsessed and self-absorbed that they can't see beyond their closely guarded (national-, moral-) borders. You don't have a 'left'wing party, only a centrist political party and a right wing political party.

2
0
Bronze badge

There's plenty wrong with news reporting both in the US and overseas. But one suspects that Trump's unhappiness with the press is mostly due to their practice of recording or writing down what he says then quoting it back when he says something different 24 or 48 or a week later.

How can you expect a leader to function if people are going to do things like that?

30
1
Silver badge

How can you expect a leader to function if people are going to do things like that?

A leader only functions when people do things like that.

3
0
Silver badge

Creatively Disruptive AI Field Craft for Establishing Brave New Worlds.

Have you considered that President Trump is simply testing reactions from media channels to such disruptive shenanigans for the outing of opponents and competition?

Would a President be Able to Deny it and Prove it a Live AI Program ..... Something Revolutionary and Different in Means and Memes of Control for Commanding and Commandeering Lead from Deep Within DARPA Like Environments. ....... https://sbir_industryday.darpa.mil

And this is Sublime Temptation to Heavenly Bliss, methinks...... Active Interpretation of Disparate Alternatives (AIDA)

I wonder if any or all of that can make you rich beyond compare? And Worthy of the Gift of a Not Inconsiderable Investment to Ensure Future Seed Capital with a Constant Supply of Nearby Immaculate Source ...... Ready Future Provisions.

1
0
Silver badge

Re: Creatively Disruptive AI Field Craft for Establishing Brave New Worlds.

Hmmm? .... Politicians Warn Spy Chief: There Is A New Threat Called "Deep Fakes"

Really? Whatever will they cook up next to be faked ..... and copied badly?

1
0
Silver badge

US 'News' Media

The US 'News' media is notorious for botching or faking stories for a long time (try Spanish-American War era for some real fakery). Many reporters are not smart enough to understand the topics they are covering; it is debatable which major gets the dumbest in a US college - journalism or education. And there is little institutional awareness or concern about their incompetence within the media. Combine this with the well know political and geographical bias and ignorance of the media and you get a large portion of the US population who wonder what lies they are spouting off today. Note the term 'fly-over country' refers to the fixation on NY, Washington, and LA with almost no interest in what happens in South Dakota or how the policies they support affect states like West Virginia. Trump in many ways just echoing the frustration many have with the media.

In 2004, CBS News published a 'story' about Bush II that turned out to be completely fake. It was based on incompetent forgeries (the documents matched the default layout of Word not what would have done on a 1970 office typewriter). Dan Rather famously called them 'fake but accurate'; an idiotic statement. If they are fake they are by definition not accurate. And if they are accurate they are not fake.

6
3

Bezos comments are laughable. Barack Obama used to criticise Fox news and other "conservative" outlets. The Clintons claimed there were "vast right wing conspiracies". It appears to me that every leader will criticise the media.

3
7

It always confuses me that the American political right, the folks who supposedly mutter sic semper tyrannis in their sleep, are okay with a sitting President taking political and social action against private news media. Even if they are being unfair, is that a precedent you want to set?

8
0
Silver badge

is that a precedent you want to set?

That precedent has been set a long time ago.

His Saintness Abraham Lincoln was a quite ... italian ... in his dealing with the press. You may argue he had a war going, but then again, he had pretty much ninelevend his way into it so the morality of the whole situation may well be doubly dark instead of grey.

1
4
Silver badge

WaPo's motto is "Democracy Dies in Darkness"

Coming from the Neocon Post, this is not a warning, it is a promise.

Let the bombing of something begin.

2
1
Silver badge
Thumb Down

Trump

A bit shit, really.

4
0
Go

I like Americans. They’re funny!

2
0
Facepalm

He's right...

...but it galls me to admit it.

0
0
Silver badge

Its just another form of tax....

Just as the tariffs on Chinese and other products act as sort of stealth sales tax this is just another mechanism to wring money out of anyone that can be extorted to help cover the gaping hole in the Federal budget left by the recent tax cuts.

The USPS makes money off of Amazon. Its legally required to do so in any contract it enters into with its customers. What weighs it down financially is an excessively large burden intended to fund future retirement benefits. This money goes to the Feds (surprised?) who are supposed to hold it in trust and maybe pay interest on it.

This practice of burdening a business with debt -- real or virtual, as in this case -- is common business practice and has been behind the spectacular failure of large retail chains such as Toys 'R Us. Obviously its much better copy to just trot out a few well worn bromides about the demise of brick and mortar stores, the (unfair) competition from Amazon and so on but the reality is that once a Robber Baron or two is let loose on your business -- or government -- then its only a matter of time before it collapses.

0
0

Bezo is wrong

The false news and daily attacks on Trump are outrageous and never seen before in history. With Trump not being a DC career politician and the media unable to elect Clinton, it's no surprise that those who lost would oppose the will of the people who elected Trump. Time after time the fake news is exposed for it's lies and bias but history has shown that you can fool some of the people some of the time. Despite the FUD independent polls show Trump is supported by the majority of the populace. This is a real problem for the DC career politicians.

0
0

Something New?

Why do we have rants published & not some really useful information about the new range of Amazon Echos which were announced a couple of days ago. Could it be that ElReg is as poular with Amazon as it's with Apple? After all both companies names start with an A.

0
0

Page:

POST COMMENT House rules

Not a member of The Register? Create a new account here.

  • Enter your comment

  • Add an icon

Anonymous cowards cannot choose their icon

Forums

Biting the hand that feeds IT © 1998–2018