back to article Pointless US Congress net neutrality vote will take place tomorrow!

After weeks of teasing, Senate Democrats will finally take decisive action on bringing back net neutrality to America on Wednesday – by holding a pointless vote. "BREAKING," yelled Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) on Twitter. "The Senate's vote to save Net Neutrality will take place this Wednesday, May 16th. Keep raising your voices …

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So long as campaign money (bribery) is the mother's milk of American politics, and so long as money is considered "speech," and campaign "speech" (money) is unlimited, making the "speech" coming from some locations (corporations, wealthy people, and lobbyists) of much greater volume than from ordinary people, the American people will never be heard from again.

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Re: Obvious

Thank Scalia (R) for that

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Factional fighting.

This is a battle of for net neutrality barons vs against net neutrality barons. The bet is that the for oligarchy will give you more support that the against oligarchy fights you and it will give you the money you need to win elections.

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When did the Register become an openly political propoganda soapbox? I don't mind discussions of a political nature, when it's related to the world of IT - but can we perhaps not have these almost bot-like posts of X party is better than Y party?

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Joke

Come on, leave the bot herders to earn a living. It is easy to ignore and even if the author of the Bombastic Bob bot renames his creation as Michael Habel and changes the style generator slightly, that is still run by the same herder. Easy to discern.

By the way, the bot herding thingie is very IT. At least so I have heard.

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bob the bot-herder

even if the author of the Bombastic Bob bot renames his creation as Michael Habel and changes the style generator slightly, that is still run by the same herder.

I think bob has enough technical savvy that he could set up another e-mail account to get another El Reg account. After all, he has his treasured upvote:downvote ratio to be proud of, and that would be wiped out if he changed his handle.

I also doubt that the style generator is amenable to change. I've encountered him elsewhere (the handle there also had "Bob" in it") and although it was clear that he was on very different drugs from usual (ecstasy rather than methamphetamine), the style was recognizably his.

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Re: bob the bot-herder

I don't look like a bot when I look into a mirror. Strangely I'm being accused of being one.

I just don't tow the liberal-lefty-line. Maybe everyone *ELSE* is a bot... [and based on what we see in social media in general, according to the 'Russian Collusion' investigation, using bots to make one person look like "a swarm" is commonplace]

but I figure the "howler monkey" downvotes are either bots OR collusion. Or both. HA HA HA HA HA!

Seriously, I sometimes think that commenters are being hired by organizations like "Media Matters" to individually comment so they don't LOOK like bots. Those of us who are conservative, true libertarians, or simply "disagree" with the politically correct socialist viewpoint, get *PUMMELLED* all of the time by the gang-up bullying LEFTISTS (aka 'howler monkeys' slinging poo).

That's ok, like Trump, I'll just throw it back at 'em.

(my 'fan club' can find me on USENET, too)

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> "...but can we perhaps not have these almost bot-like posts of X party is better than Y party?"

I must disagree here. Many of the comments on this thread are actually suggesting that locally elected legislators should do their jobs, in opposition to calls for top-down control at the federal level we're usually treated to by the "botish" commentators.

It's quite different from what's been happening lately, and most refreshing. Further, the "we're better than you" tone (on all sides) is finally muted a bit. I'm seriously wondering if there's a sea-change going on.

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Re: bob the bot-herder

"even if the author of the Bombastic Bob bot "

The bot that changes his posts to random CAPS?

"I think bob has enough technical savvy that he could set up another e-mail account to get another El Reg account"

There is more to it than that. There are numerous ways to detect if someone uses multiple accounts, and plenty of forum tools to help with that - and avoiding / working round them requires some knowledge, skill and effort. And besides I don't think anyone needs to see the handle to know WHEN BOB POSTS.

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More of the Same

So the Democrats are running in the midterms on 2 main promises: "We'll impeach the president" and "We'll raise your taxes". Always popular slogans. 8-(

I wonder if the Republicans are funding the Democratic ads this time around? I certainly would!

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Bah!

Snarky article from someone who's parliament still has Outlawries Bill on the agenda.

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Re: Bah!

The Outlawries Bill is a mere nipper, only been around since 1727. The Select Vestries Bill of 1698, now, that has some legs.

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Neutrality done the wrong way

The "net neutrality" debate is silly, and the fact that it's become politically partisan is downright stupid.

All you have to do is mandate that anyone who supplies last-mile connections, must offer those last-mile connections as unbundled elements. When they did this with DSL in 1996 it was wonderfully successful; if you didn't like your ISP you could switch to another one who had access to the same wires.

Do this for fibre and coax, and all problems are immediately solved. And no partisan bickering either -- both Congress and the President could easily get behind it.

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"But even though everyone knows it won't pass, the fact that it only requires one additional vote to pass the Senate has led to seemingly endless commentary pieces on how it actually might pass because it only needs one vote."

Are there any senators that haven't said anything or taken a side? If there are, I highly suspect at least one found out that there were already fifty votes and is keeping quiet in order to be the Big Damn Hero. After all, people might like heroes who never let the evil reach the city, but they love and remember the ones who stop it at the gates.

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Enough...

I don't know about all of you folks, but I know that I've had enough of Kieren McCarthy!

Even for a British news outlet, where I already expect a healthy amount of snark with any coverage of the U.S. political system--but somehow he manages to take the level of smugness far beyond anything I ever thought was possible!

I realize that someone has to cover those stories, but could El Reg please find someone that's less misanthropic or annoying to read?!

I'd honestly rather read the news, as delivered by Bombastic Bob! Yup--he's that annoying! Mind you, it takes a lot for me to be willing to subject myself to the word salad, of a troll in a tinfoil hat, rather than deal with Kieran's incessant whining, and nay-saying!

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Megaphone

While I agree that the vote is pointless, it's not exactly new either. The reubs had 35 or so votes against obamacare while they we out of power. And it's certainly possible the dems retake the house, rollcall seems to think so, so they can certainly impeach trump, convict? no possible way. Meanwhile the telco get their winfall...

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