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A Guidance and Navigation Control (GNC) issue scuppered last night's Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) launch atop a SpaceX Falcon 9. Conversely, the European Space Agency (ESA) celebrated a successful restart of the Mars Express orbiter following a software update. TESS is less Scheduled for launch yesterday, the …

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Re: re-orientated itself

Why not just reoriented?

Because orientate is a perfectly good alternative to orient - albeit not one much used in American English?

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Re: re-orientated itself

Whenever I think of something getting Oriented, I get vague images of pointy straw hats and rice paddies. I'll admit that it Occidentaly confuses me so I use orientate.

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Re: re-orientated itself

'Orient as a verb means to "find direction" or "give direction." The noun form of this kind of orienting is orientation.

Sometimes people in their speech will form an imagined verb from orientation and say orientate. At best, orientate is a back-formation used humorously to make the speaker sound pompous. The correct word is the verb orient.'

- http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000245.htm

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Whenever I think of something getting Oriented

I think of facing towards Mecca. I don't know if that is a good thing for a satellite.

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Re: re-orientated itself

Now you've done it ArrZar - you've got me imagining a spinning oriental potentate.

NURSE!

>>... It's the one that buttons up at the back, thanks.

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Re: Whenever I think of something getting Oriented

"I think of facing towards Mecca. I don't know if that is a good thing for a satellite."

Bingo!

Ok I'm going ....

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Re: re-orientated itself

Orientate as a word has been in usage in British English for approximately 200 years. After that length of time I'm not sure there's any validity to the suggestion that it is not 'correct'. In my UK experience, it is much more common than 'orient' which I've only ever heard uttered by folks from the ex-colonies (US, Oz, Southern Africa).

from The OED

"ORIENTATE: More commonly used in British English than orient, while the latter is the more frequent of the two in American English. Orientate is commonly regarded as an incorrect usage in American English."

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Re: re-orientated itself

'Orient' originally meant 'east' or 'to face east' as a verb, which was an important thing to people who build churches. The verb then got generalised to mean 'to face in a well-defined direction', and a new noun was invented, 'orientation'. In turn a new verb was invented from that, 'orientate', by analogy with 'levitate' / 'levitation', 'remonstrate' / 'remonstration' and so on.

That's how language works: people invent new words, and if people use them then they are correct.

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"That's how language works: people invent new words, and if people use them then they are correct."

Unless you're French apparently... </sarc>

From the OED link above,

Orientated, adj (1857). Oriented, adj (1875). Unlike many 'Americanisms', it appears that this one isn't actually a case of America retaining an older usage whilst the British evolved the language further. Interesting.

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Does not compare

"Makers of certain consumer electronics should take note that it is possible to create an update that both extends the life of a device and improves its performance."

I bet ESA would have sent brand-new hardware if they could. These things take years to build and reach their destination. Can't really compare that to continuous integration of hardware evolution in consumer devices.

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Psychological Projection

That is what the author is doing here.

"NASA reported that the TESS spacecraft itself remains in excellent health as it perches nervously on top of the Falcon 9."

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Should i be miffed?

"Makers of certain consumer electronics should take note that it is possible to create an update that both extends the life of a device and improves its performance."

I mentioned this to the SO and she only had one word to say : VIAGRA

Should i be miffed?

She then mumbled something about being traded in for a younger model.

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All about TESS

TESS, the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite will seek worlds close to home. It is designed to spot planets orbiting nearby bright stars.

Read the story here.

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As computers shrink...

Instead of having a computer, they could have dozens. Like a committee.

Mike: "Bob's got the update, and he's busy rebooting. Oh dear, he just locked up. We'll restore him."

Patty: "Oh Fred's just packed it in. He's dead. We've decided to turned him off. RIP Fred."

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Re: As computers shrink...

Well, yes... answers by concensus.

But I have a vague memory of the first(?) space shuttle launch, which sat on the pad for a while as four computers argued with a fifth, built by a different maker. It was right; they were wrong...

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It took an hour to reboot?

What's are they running - Vista?

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Re: It took an hour to reboot?

28 minutes to send the reboot command, 4 minutes to reboot and self-test and transmit the reply message, 28 minutes to send the response back to earth, or thereabout I suspect.

Did I miss your joke icon?

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