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YouTube has changed its Policies on content featuring firearms to prohibit videos that try to sell guns or offer “instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories”. The change was hardly shouted from the rooftops: the video vault …

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There was a recent report, El Reg?, that FaceBook are aiming to overhaul YouTube as the "go to" for video content.

Trying to take canvas still images from one of their pages it would appear they haven't implemented CORS 'anonymous' on their alternative domain servers yet. Whether that is incompetence or part of their walled garden approach is debatable.

In another forum there was report that FaceBook recently pulled all postings containing "gun". It is possibly apocryphal that they apparently made the hoary AOL*** mistake of including pulling postings about burgundy etc.

***IIRC AOL filters banned the mention of Scunthorpe, Essex, and Penistone.

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Gun fans

Lets hope the gun fans go to nthe appropriate channel (whatever the PH term is for a particular org (such as inrange) vids)

Otherwise generic searches are unlikely to be helpful

Big Weapons (unlikely to bring back a howitzer in the top 10 results)

Pump action (not likely to give a shotgun in top 10 results)

Shoot your bolt (not liekly to give running out of ammo in top 10 results)

etc. (add your own, there's masses more out there)

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Re: Gun fans

Oozy 9mm. Just don't go there.

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Re: Gun fans

"Oozy 9mm. Just don't go there."

Which reminds me that my small 1970s Megido "Bantam"dictionary of modern Hebrew contains a remarkable number of slang euphemisms for "penis".

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But

They don't really care about thew following though , probably because they pull in millions of views per day

* Hickok45 ( Has probably done more for the gun community than any other channel)

* The Yankee Marshall ( Ok it's more of a ladies talk show than a gun channel but he can be funny when he goes of on one of his rants)

* Taofladermous ( A lot of homemade projectiles - interesting vids)

* IraqVeteran8888 ( Like it or hate it, it is very popular)

* The Gun Collective

* VetRanch

* etc et etc

Most of whom spend their time meriting the virtues or not of a multitude of guns/cannons..

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RE: VetRanch

You mean Demolition Ranch, surely. I'm posting in the hopes people will go and watch... great stuff.

(it does seem like you watch a lot of the same stuff I do)

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Yes you are correct, it should have been Demolition Ranch,

"I am a doctor, sort off"

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"We will not be seeking any monetization from PornHub

and do not know what their monetization policies are"

I think you'll find a demonstration of their monetization policies at the end of most of their videos*.

*Lesbian content excepted.

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Guns: I've enjoyed a few of those vids.

Sex: Can't say I'm against that..

Sex, Guns, and Violence: Sorry, the combination of these I see creating weird subconscious associations and possibly encouraging all kinds of nonsense ranging from domestic violence to snuff flicks. It's just too creepy.

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"Sex, Guns, and Violence: Sorry, the combination of these I see creating weird subconscious associations and possibly encouraging all kinds of nonsense ranging from domestic violence to snuff flicks. It's just too creepy."

That's exactly the association the "anti fun" crowd have been pushing for decades. Sex and violence is always associated when complaining about the failing younger generation, vandalism, deliquancy, video games etc etc etc. Of, and let's not forget the devils music, Rock'n'Roll that was going to destroy civilisation back in the 1950s. because it encouraged wild dancing and sex!

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The problem with the sidestepping of YouTube monetisation in favour of Patreon crowdfunding (which I otherwise absolutely do endorse as the only acceptable modern revenue model) is that Patreon happens to sit right next to YouTube vis-a-vis any "icky" issues - they just want none of it, censoring and banning left and right anything that isn't strictly anodyne. They're _definitely_ not a refuge for controversial stuff (basically the entire porn scene on Patreon is already more or less in hiding), and they might prove harder to replace than YouTube might be (by BitChute or some other p2p / distributed storage mechanism). The only way to financially reward people with no means to install arbitrary censorship and gatekeepers seem to be cryptocurrencies, and they're not looking all that great right now...

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Dark times for internet freedom indeed, and worse for financial freedom. The alternative distribution platforms are nice; it's refreshing to see a new wave of people making videos just for the love of free speech, not angling for donations so much. But that's only a temporary lever against totalitarianism.

We could discard the internet on the trash heap of history. Better than living in a world of mass surveillance, total financial control, and an unarmed population.

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"[...] and an unarmed population."

Taking power by force is always a short term measure. Generally followed by a period of chaos and tyranny which is worse than its predecessor.

As was said nearly 200 years ago "The pen is mightier than the sword" in the long term.

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Perhaps. Of course the most common use of the sword is to censor the pen which is why Liu Xiaobo was more widely know outside of China than inside.

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The penis; meatier than the sword.

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I can't say I agree with YouTube's policy change here, but "free speech" doesn't enter into it. You can say whatever you want and face no legal consequences for it (with a few exceptions such as active threats of violence). That does not mean that any private company has to provide you with a platform to say it.

Basically, I disagree with YouTube here, but they are absolutely within their rights even if I - personally - think it's pretty crappy of them. PornHub has the same rights and I really wouldn't be surprised if the gun guys get kicked off there too (for entirely different reasons - they really don't want to be just the place you go if YouTube won't host your video). If you want to say something that they don't want to provide a platform for feel free to set up your own video sharing site. It's not that difficult to get one running these days. Granted you won't have the exposure that YouTube gives you, but on the plus side your bandwidth bills will probably stay manageable.

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> That does not mean that any private company has to provide you with a platform to say it.

I'd say YouTube(and Facebook and Twitter, etc) qualifies as a public forum and shouldn't be treated with a simple "they can do what they want". And, while it hasn't been firmly applied to cyberspace yet, California law(which they'd all fall under) is clear that public fora aren't allowed to censor people just because the owners don't like them(a law I'd love to see made universal).

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"PornHub has the same rights and I really wouldn't be surprised if the gun guys get kicked off there too (for entirely different reasons"

Based on my limited knowledge of the USA, it does seem as though the areas with gun racks on the back window of the pick-up is also a very religious god-fearing area. They won't be happy that their family friendly gun videos are being hosted on the devils porn sites :-)

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Based on my limited knowledge of the USA, it does seem as though the areas with gun racks on the back window of the pick-up is also a very religious god-fearing area.

That's an understandable perception, but ultimately incorrect. As much as the media loves to paint gun rights as a religious right vs secular left issue the reality of the situation is that it's more of an urban vs rural issue. While urban vs rural does tend to line up similarly to secular left vs religious right, the correlation is far from perfect.

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They are banning sensible videos such as how to handle a pistol safely and allowing gangster rap garbage with guns and simulated armed robberies.

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Simple solution

How about the gun nuts just pony up some cash and launch their own web site, on their own servers?

Somehow any solution that involves money and effort always seems unreasonable to the "Free speech" brigade.

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How about the gun nuts just pony up some cash and launch their own web site, on their own servers?

er...I think that would be Full30 mentioned in the linked FB post. It was news to me too.

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