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A spec for online age verification is due to be published on Monday, a decision backers hope will pacify opponents of the smut checks. The move comes as the pornography industry gets ready for a major overhaul of the way viewers can access web-based content, with everyone who wants to have a quick fiddle asked to verify they …

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Look on the bright side ...

... if they implement this then at least we'll have an ID audit trial for who views what from Westminster computers.

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What on earth leads you to believe that these laws will apply to our lords and masters?

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Re: Look on the bright side ...

What on earth leads you to believe that these laws will apply to our lords and masters?

Didn't they exempt themselves for 'research' or some other weak excuse - or am I thinking of some other woefully ignorant, badly thought out piece of legislation.

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Re: Look on the bright side ...

Didn't they exempt themselves for 'research' or some other weak excuse

Aka the "Chris Langham Defense"

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Re: Look on the bright side ...

Didn't they exempt themselves for 'research' or some other weak excuse

Aka the "Chris Langham Defense"

That guy from The Who offered the same reason I believe....

If that's correct, that's two - maybe it's true...

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A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Maybe you should have a look at yourselves in the mirror. Ask yourselves some difficult questions before the police do.

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Of course

Because we know that this is going to force children's sexual exploration back behind the bike sheds.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

A friend of mine who used to work in a video store told me that there were two types of people who rented porn movies:

The guy who slips the porn in with a stack of five or six nature documentaries, action movies, etc.

The guy who proudly slaps "Anal Bum Blasters III: Blast From The Past" down on the counter and asks: "you got anything new back there?"

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Pornography is legal. Maybe you should ask yourself what business it is of your's to judge other people's legal activities, based on whatever intolerant, prudish moral compass you use.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Claire Perry - is that you?

England's very own net nanny.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

More likely they are worried about credit card details or passport details or whatever being submitted to third parties .. given how data has a big tendency to leak.

PII shoudl not be stored, but you can bet it will be - e.g. PCI DSS has strict rules, but audits often find companies breaking the rules & perm storing stuff they shouldn't or for longer than allowed.

e.g. MindGeek (likely to be a big player on age verification) has form on having its data hacked

Plus adding age Id verification is potentially a way to track people.

So it is more about privacy, PII data leaking, than the content (though there is content hypocrisy - why not demand age verification on graphic violent content - that's something I find far more offensive than vanilla pr0n )

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Most people probably are - only 1 % of the population is asexual and 70 % of them are apparently women.

In today's world, I suspect restricting access would cause way more (real) problems for people - those people being predominantly women.

As a citizen of the UK who values my freedom and my security, I feel that we should trust our elected officials to provide excellent leadership on these complex topics. /Sarcasm off

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> Pornography is legal

I am under no obligation to accept that. And yes, it *is* my business what other people do especially when it affects public morals.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> Pornography is legal

I am under no obligation to accept that. And yes, it *is* my business what other people do especially when it affects public morals.

Dare I mention that homosexuality is also legal?

Sorry, but you do have to accept others' sexual freedoms however intolerant you may be.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Is this a very dry joke? Are you a troll? Or are you a puritanical moron?

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> Dare I mention that homosexuality is also legal?

Glad to hear it.

Need any help with that strawman?

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Pro-gay, over the top anti-porn.

That's a very unusual combination.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Need any help with that strawman?

If you're going to recycle 1950s anti-legalisation rhetoric verbatim, expect to be called out on it.

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Re: unwarranted triumphalism

Pornography decreases rape.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> A friend of mine who used to work in a video store told me

Back before the days of chains of video shops when most such places would have a box load of pirated hardcore tapes hidden below the counter the guy who ran our local such shop said that a lot of the customers were women who presumably had more time home alone than their husbands.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Unwarranted triumphalism is a God fearin' right winger.

Need you say more?

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

You're beginning to sound like a US Congresscritter from the deep south or the extreme right.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Ah... you are the final arbiter of good and evil then? Nice to know we have someone watching out for all of us mere mortals.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Bollocks.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> God fearin' right winger

You could try not lying. I'm not religious.

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@unwarranted triumphalism

At the time of writing, 5 posts, lots of downvotes, and not a single solitary upvote. Is this a Reg record for sheer unpopularity (or olympic-class trolling, take your pick)..?

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Re: @unwarranted triumphalism

Telling the truth is not a popularity contest. Doesn't help when you lot deliberately misquote me, but I guess it's just an occupational hazard.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Bollocks

Sorry, I prefer my pornography without them.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Bollocks.

Shocking, children might see that....

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Re: @unwarranted triumphalism

Telling the truth is not a popularity contest. Doesn't help when you lot deliberately misquote me, but I guess it's just an occupational hazard.

If your believe you are telling the truth, you are deluded.

If your occupational therapy isn't helping....

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Re: unwarranted triumphalism

Every Society needs a release valve - if every society is three meals from anarchy, what'll it be if the small sexual light snack is denied or made difficult?

Might not be revolution or anarchy, but I think certain portions of the population might get meaner.

The late Sir Pterry mentions in 'Men at Arms' that humans are not naturally paid up members of the race - he suggests they need socialising to complete the subscription....

I suggest that for many, porn delivers some of that in lieu of how people today are either no longer close to others, or cannot meet their needs without imposing* on others.

* either aggressively or merely connecting.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Are you a troll?

Yes, he's a troll. Not a very good one, usually. This time he seems to have caught far more people than he should have. He even made a second post where it was blatantly obvious he was trolling, and people responded as though he were serious.

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Re: @unwarranted triumphalism

unwarranted triumphalism: "Telling the truth is not a popularity contest. "

Neither is spouting complete, total and utter shit. Which could explain your handsome crop of downvotes. Now piss off back to the Cabinet Office.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

70% of women are asexual you say? I would have thought the percentage would be higher than that.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

> Anal Bum Blasters III: Blast From The Past

I understand many of the stars got shafted.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

have a look at yourselves in the mirror

I'd suggest getting a tripod instead. And a remote release (ahem...). Pictures of genitalia framed by bathroom taps are rather passé.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

Bollocks

Not unless you can prove you're over 18!

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Teiwaz

Have an up vote for mentioning the great man and his works.

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Re: A lot of you are *very* keen on protecting your access to smut

you ARE being trolled, downvoters, spare yourselves that extra effort and electricity, all those downclicks turn trolls ON, rather than off :)

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Gimp

FoI request

Any chance El Reg could request a list of all domains or IP addresses accessed from devices on the networks at the Houses of Parliament?

My employer would treat it as gross misconduct if I managed to access porn from a work device, especially as it would require me to deliberately circumvent the firewalls and proxies.

I assume MPs would face the same challenges to access porn while connected to the parliament network, and would suffer similar sanctions if they succeeded.

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re: "... and would suffer similar sanctions if they succeeded."

Nah, MPs never do anything wrong, which is why they don't get prosecuted...

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Re: FoI request

Any chance you could stay out of peoples' private business? Too much to ask?

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@unwarranted triumphalism

Any chance you could stay out of peoples' private business? Too much to ask?

Are you Damien Green by any chance?

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Re: FoI request

"Nah, MPs never do anything wrong, which is why they don't get prosecuted..."

When caught they just change the law "for clarification". That's why Theresa May wants all these Henry VIII powers to push things through as "secondary legislation".

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Re: FoI request

And at any point Parliament can abolish those Henry VIII powers.

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Re: FoI request

unfortunately this is a matter for national security. No.

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"And at any point Parliament can abolish those Henry VIII powers."

If it gets to that extreme there will probably be a coup and all that agreement will be shoved aside. No gentleman's agreement stands for long against someone with enough raw power to ignore them.

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Paying for porn?

With the amount of free porn on the net I'm surprised that anyone still pays for it.

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Re: Paying for porn?

Little thing called Consent. Some people like it.

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Re: Paying for porn?

And people pay for bottled water when it's freely available from the tap.

I'm sure there are lots of things available for free that some people choose to pay for.

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