back to article Annoyingly precocious teen who ruined Trek is now an asteroid

Actor Asteroid 391257, who rose to prominence for playing annoyingly precocious teen Starfleet member Wesley Crusher in Star Trek: The Next Generation, now has an asteroid named after him. Wheaton has gone on to earn a respected place in SciFi fandom, largely escaping fan ire about the Crusher character who even by the Trek …

Re: Blame the EU?

Due to the rise of the second British empire in the late 21st century. Well I say rise, we got as far a South France and stopped for Tea, before we knew it the Asteroid WilWheaton took out London.

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Re: Blame the EU?

well, many people who are taught their first English pick up their accent of their teacher... I know a Portuguese guy that has a thick Scottish accent!!! :)

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Re: Blame the EU?

No, but you have apparently missed all of the thousands of times similar observations, questions and complaints have been made on the subject.

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He could have been speaking French, with a French accent, but the universal translator just made it sound like English :)

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You should also hunt down the episode of "The Nerdist" podcast where they interview Patrick Stewart and he ends up doing the opening intro and various of Picard's stock phrases in a French accent. He also alleges that there is a tape somewhere in the vaults of Paramount where they did if for real at the time before deciding that it really wasn't going to work...

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Re: Blame the EU?

>Did I miss the episode in which it was explained why a man from France (Captain Picard) spoke with a British accent?

"In the 24th century, civilisation has progressed beyond..."

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@Cranky Yank: Re: Blame the EU?

CY,

no, for reference I suspect that it's due to having parents from different countries, who speak DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, an activity which many [who hold a Passport] enjoy whilst travelling...

/sighs

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Re: Blame the EU?

I remember hearing an interview with Sir Patrick Stewart where he said that the LA Times had listed him as an English Shakespearean actor because they hadn't heard of him*. He also didn't unpack for 6 weeks convinced that the series wouldn't last. I did like the fact that they'd finally worked out that having the captain beaming down to every odd planet that they came across (like Kirk) was probably not the safest thing for the captain to do. I was on the fence about WW and at times he did seem to be there to save the script writers when they needed to solve a problem. The episode where he essentially got drunk and took control was fun though. Dwight Schultz is an acting legend and I won't hear a word against him (I'll put my fingers in my ears).

*Well they obviously didn't see the classic film Lifeforce which is where I first saw him act. I was aged 10 at the time watching an 18 rated horror film (with the odd nude lady in it) that scared me sh¡tless but you could tell him and Peter Firth were class acts. I didn't get much sleep that night.

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Re: Blame the EU?

I blame the Universal Translator.

I love the way it 'fails' and people who are dying, seem to utter their dying phrases in their native language. (DS9, the hispanic guy who gets shot, for example).

Best use: when Julian Bashir switches it OFF to analyse a cardassian conference with his guest geniuses.

Also, when the Ferengi are back on earth causing the roswell incident, and they have to reboot using a hairpin.

Whuich then begs the question, where does Odo keep his universal translator/communicator...

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Re: Blame the EU?

"You should also hunt down the episode of "The Nerdist" podcast where they interview Patrick Stewart and he ends up doing the opening intro and various of Picard's stock phrases in a French accent. "

He also did it in a broad Yorkshire accent in an interview with Johnathan Ross (when he had his Saturday morning Radio 2 show)

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Re: Blame the EU?

Blame the Universal Translator for making *proper diction and enunciation* sound like a british accent (*_~)

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"well, many people who are taught their first English pick up their accent of their teacher... I know a Portuguese guy that has a thick Scottish accent!!! :)"

I call it the "Jan Molby effect." His English was rudimentary when he came over from Denmark. After a couple of years at Liverpool he spoke fluent English, in an accent that he had definitely not acquired from watching the BBC.

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"you could tell [Patrick Stewart] and Peter Firth were class acts"

Stewart's performances in I Claudius and Dune were none to shabby either.

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Did I miss the episode in which it was explained why a man from France (Captain Picard) spoke with a British accent?

That's just how the universal translator sounds when it converts European languages into American.

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Patrick Stewart

Jimbo, I remember him most outside of ST:TNG as Gurney Halleck in Dune.

"They told me you were dead...."

Brings a tear every time I hear/see it. <Snifs> PP

PS: I'll look up Lifeforce. Thanks.

Icon, one for you for the recommendation, one for me to cry into next time.

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Re: Patrick Stewart

The trailer can be viewed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qej5nlRb9VM if you want a sneak peek. Sir Patrick is only in the trailer for a brief second but longer in the film.

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Re: Blame the EU?

Ah, "Lifeforce," the movie in which Mathilda May ruined my adolescence. I actually saw Patrick Stewart in "Excalibur," first.

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come now

It's not like Wil Wheaton was writing the damn stuff. He only had to perform the horrible drivel...

I'm still waiting for Wesley to come back in a new ST iteration. After all, he was special according to "The Traveler"...

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Wesley was okay...

...it was all the "Troi has a headache" episodes that used to annoy me.

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Re: Wesley was okay...

Indeed, her role did seem to be window dressing most of the time (althought they didn't keep her in the minidress for very long, maybe only the pilot) but on the other hand if there was no Troi then we wouldn't have had Lt Tawny Madison in Galaxy Quest.

Agree with the earlier comments about Kirk though, hated TOS and always have. Mind you, when I was a kid Shatner wasn't Kirk, he was TJ Hooker......

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Re: Wesley was okay...

"... it was all the 'Troi has a headache' episodes that used to annoy me."

Oh, god. Or the "My empathic powers are on the fritz again," and that always somehow happened at the worst possible time.

I've long thought that Wheaton was added to attract both the gay and straight teenybopper demographic to the audience. It's not like Gene Luck Pikurd (as "Q" once pronounced it) could ever fill that role.

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Re: Wesley was okay...

Oh, god. Or the "My empathic powers are on the fritz again," and that always somehow happened at the worst possible time.

I always thought it was just her bullshiting. When tiny little spaceship/barely tech capable planet is being threatened by the big bad Fed pricks "I am sensing fear". When Mr Alien obviously was happy "I am sensing he likes..". When Mrs Alien had an ambiguous expression or she hadn't yet been able to sum up1 the situation, it was "oh my magical powers are not working right now, I have a headache dear"

Actually.. Perhaps it wasn't WW who ruined Trek after al..

Paris coz she'd have made it much more interesting, and seriously increased the teenage boy viewership.

1 If you can call a 45 minute boring psychobabble monologue "sum up".

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Oh I did like John de Lancie as Q, made up for Wesley big time.

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Wesley

A Wesley was always disappointing, a bit like getting a 'Maggie' episode of the Simpson. Yeah it's still the Simpsons but you know it's never going to be as good as a 'Homer' episode.

But Beverley Crusher, she didn't have do things for my teenage hormones.

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Chakotay and his mystical bollocks

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when his marquis ship was blown up in Caretaker...

... who saved his mystical prayer wheel/carpet/stones/flute?

Or where they in his backpack..?

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I like Will wheaton but wesley...

So remind me again exactly how a 13 year old kid gets to be helmsmen of the flagship? Or how he ends up working with the chief engineer, redesigning starship engines? Or how he and teh science officer rely so heavily upon each other tosolve "stuff" ( normally with a wingwang beam being emitted from a reconfigured inverse reverse springient bracket) How he becomes an integral part of the command staff? All before he even joins starfleet?

That's why its such a shitty character, its nothing to do with being brainy.

This is a common complaint for me about television in general, there's always a kid that comes across as being so much more worldly wise. so much more together than all the highly qualified/ experienced adults around them.

My experience of real world children / teens does not reflect this in any way... quite the opposite in fact.

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So remind me again exactly how a 13 year old kid gets to be helmsmen of the flagship

Who's his mum sleeping with?

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Re: I like Will wheaton but wesley...

"This is a common complaint for me about television in general, there's always a kid that comes across as being so much more worldly wise. so much more together than all the highly qualified/ experienced adults around them."

You must've hated Seaquest DSV then.

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Re: I like Will wheaton but wesley...

I believe that Wesley's role in the organisation is to sign off on things that he doesn't understand so that every cock-up and failure bears his name. Eventually, he will be court-martialled and ejected into space, nekkid, for his crimes.

Pickard and his cronies will have a drink and cigar while they briefly lament his untimely passing in front of the panorama windows. Then they will request a successor. Maybe a diversity candidate this time?

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Re: I like Will wheaton but wesley...

You might also like John Scalzi (sci fi author) performing a skit with WW on that very subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz5S2x_tJ70

It's from his "Redshirts" book promotion tour (the book loosely being a Trek parody) and, if I recall correctly, WW was reading his part live so didn't know where it was going ...

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I know this doesn't need an IT angle...

..but there is one.

The dislike for Wesley spawned not one, but two usenet groups:

alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die and alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

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Wesley Crusher..

The Jar Jar Binks of the Trek universe.....

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Wesley Crusher

The Jar Jar Binks of the Trek universe

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Shut up Wesley.

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Hashtag GreatestGen

I cannot believe that no-one has posted:

- Young Wesley Crusher

- The Boy???

- My Son!!!

<Baker Street Sax Drop...>

http://www.maximumfun.org/shows/greatest-generation

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"Congratulations Wil! @wilw @WilliamShatner"

Ummm, did I miss something? Why are they including The Shat, shouldn't that Patrick Stewart?

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Re: "Congratulations Wil! @wilw @WilliamShatner"

Perhaps he's too busy being a proper actor to post stuff on social media. PP

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I have no problem with this.

Wesley Crusher was the Jar Jar of the Star Trek universe, but Wil Wheaton himself seems like a pretty cool dude.

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Will Wheaton is fine. Wesley Crusher is the jerk.

We've all been where Wesley was. No peers. No friends. The only acknowledgment he ever got as an individual was by being smarter than anyone else. It was his entire identity.

And we know what that feels like. It's hell on Earth. If you ever falter--ever stop acing everything--you will become less than nothing.

And how did Wesley behave? Like everything was wonderful and life was beautiful. The writers completely betrayed young geeks with the character of Wesley.

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Regarding "Planet Trump"

Ugh, I so wanted to vote for Death By Meteor, but I'm here as an O-1.

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Annoyingly precocious teen who ruined Trek is now an asteroid

Nope, wrong.

it was the writers who ruined Trek, and the slavering twats who lapped up every foul episode causing that festering mess to be further imposed on the world.

By the time TNG came along, well... Captain Daft covered it pretty well above.

(Interests of disclosure, watching VOY at a friends place, 1-2 eps/week. Not intolerably horrible yet but some of the plot-lines... If you want to torture someone, make them watch the series of DS9 in a very short time frame)

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Wheaton seems to be making a pretty good living these days just by taking the piss out of himself on The Big Bang Theory.

Dressing as a B Movie, bikini clad, gorilla has to be a step up from playing Crusher.

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Wesley didn't fail the star fleet entrance exam

Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but unless you're thinking of a different episode to me. The one where he "failed", was not the entrance exam.

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Wesley wasn't half as bad....

....as that little shit Alexander. Wish Worf had chucked the little full body pyjama wearing miscreant out the airlock several times.

"That is not how Klingons behave Alexander, PREPARE TO DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!"

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