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Dear reader, I am in a state of shock and horror. That’s right - I have attempted to use a Japanese electric toilet in the manner for which it was designed. I fear my rear may never recover. Your correspondent is currently in Tokyo for Huawei’s Mobile Broadband Forum 2016 and is staying in an excellent, if, for the purposes of …

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      1. TheVogon

        Ah, so IoT really means Internet of Toilets?

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Internet connected toilets

          They are connected to the cloud. The protocol is IP V.carefully.

          1. Soruk

            Re: Internet connected toilets

            It also needs a decent encraption protocol.

  1. NorthernCoder
    Boffin

    Come on...

    Google translate (the app) can translate the text on those buttons from a photo of my screen showing the picture in the article.

    Wouldn't that be an obvious solution to a tech reporter; to use an automated translation service?

    1. ProperDave

      Re: Come on...

      Damn you beat me to stating the obvious too. That would have been my first thought in this situation. :o

      Also - I would imagine it would be possible to google an English translation of Japanese techno-bogs.

      @Author; Was this a 'Washlet' toilet? They even have an interactive guide in English...

      http://www.toto.co.jp/en/gtjt/washlet/

    2. Nick Kew

      Re: Come on...

      Damn, I was using google translate on menus last week to make sure I didn't inadvertently order something with meat in, while eating out in Seville.

      The image of someone using it for his enthronement is not a good association.

    3. Dan 55 Silver badge
      WTF?

      Re: Come on...

      I can tell you've not used Google Translate before.

      Icon is the user's response after the translation.

    4. DropBear
      Facepalm

      Re: Come on...

      ...not to mention the same source easily reveals one of the buttons (with the visible "8" on it) says "Off for 8 hours" (presumably to save some electricity at night). That kinda explains the "everything just turned off" thing isn't is. Oh, and the very first button (with a "vaguely" familiar square symbol, no idea where else I saw it) reads plainly "STOP"...

  2. Test Man

    Reminds me of the Three Seashells...

    1. Kane
      Facepalm

      "Reminds me of the Three Seashells..."

      He doesn't know how to use the three seashells...

  3. ahnlak

    Luddite

    While that control panel looks a little less pictorial than you usually see, it's nothing that common sense and Google Translate can't explain to you these days.

    Of course if you're actually defeated by simple technology, rather than going on a hunt for a "conventional toilet", you could just leave the damn buttons alone.

    1. Uffish

      Re: Luddite

      A middle eastern office loo - standard row of standard cubicles. A bit too skimpy-USA-style for my liking but needs must when nature calls - and it was, urgently.

      Sat down, reset the intestines to factory fresh and looked for the loo paper - there was none, not even an empty holder. There was however a standard shower attachment on a flexi-pipe with hot and cold taps. I had one, slightly used, paper tissue in my pockets.

      You don't have to be a luddite to long for home comforts.

      1. phuzz Silver badge
        Trollface

        Re: Luddite

        You only need a single square of toilet paper anyway.

        Tear off a corner, about the same size as your thumbnail. Stick this on the end of your finger, and use it to clean your bum.

        The rest of the tissue can then be used for cleaning your finger.

        1. Bowlers

          Re: Luddite

          Three sheets were considered necessary when I was in the forces. One to wipe up, one to wipe down and one to polish.

  4. Kryogenik

    My mother had the some experience on a holiday to Japan 3 years ago. We were in a large shopping mall in Tokyo and she popped into the toilets whilst I waited outside for her. 20 minutes later (and after a large number of other women entered and exited successfully) she emerged red faced. She had done the exact same thing, leaving her trousers drenched! A lady in the cubicle next to her heard her shrill squeal of panic and (without either of them knowing a word of each other's languages) helped her dry off with towels and hand dryers. Needless to say, she never touched the buttons on any other toilet like that again...

  5. oiseau
    Pint

    Made my day ...

    "... up the old cigar clipper."

    Absolutely fantastic!

    My first laugh today.

    Have a beer.

    Cheers.

    1. Piro Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: Made my day ...

      Made me smile 'n all.

  6. Marc 25

    you could just leave the damn buttons alone.

    an unpressed button is like catnip to anyone in the IT world.

    "What does this do?"

    <JAB>

    1. EddieD

      Re: you could just leave the damn buttons alone.

      "I wonder what happens if I press this button?"

      "I wouldn't"

      "Oh."

      "What happened?"

      "A sign lit up saying 'Please do not press this button again'"

      ©Douglas Adams

    2. richardcox13

      Re: you could just leave the damn buttons alone.

      “Some humans would do anything to see if it was possible to do it. If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.”

      ― Terry Pratchett

    3. Soruk
      Mushroom

      Re: you could just leave the damn buttons alone.

      If you're a bloke, BEWARE the automatic tampon replacement function.

  7. thesykes

    Google translate?

    I just tried that using the camera and even drawing the characters.

    I now have bidet, buttocks and muff as the last few entries.

  8. Silae

    Translation

    Starting from the bottom up (sorry I had to):

    Button (停止) --> Stop

    Button (おしり) --> Water spray to clean your bum

    Button (ムーブ) --> Have the spray move in a forward and backwards manner

    Button (ビデ) --> Bidet

    Button (弱) --> Weaken the water spray

    Button (強) --> Strengthen the water spray

    The other buttons you don't really need to know or touch.

    General advice is to set the water spray strength to minimum for normal business and strongest for when you want an enema to help things move forward.

    There is no dryer on this washlet and your hotel's model is a fairly cheap.

    Now you are equipped with the requisite knowledge, give it another go.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Translation

      once you go auto bidet toilet with warmed seat you never want to go back.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Translation

        "once you go auto bidet toilet with warmed seat you never want to go back."

        Someone has downvoted this, but why? It's absolutely true in my experience.

      2. Fink-Nottle

        Re: Translation

        > once you go auto bidet toilet with warmed seat you never want to go back.

        (not the down voter)

        In my last new-build house the plumber managed to swap the hot and cold feeds. Warm water in the loo cistern is quite pleasant - the scalding hot second flush, not so much.

    2. okand

      Re: Translation

      Not to mention the red square on the stop button.

      I suppose these days with digital media that you don't need to rewind it's possible to forget the meaning of that one though...

    3. 080

      Re: Translation

      One of the high points of my Tokyo visit, and with buttons mounted on the left hand wall you can work out what they do while you do the do-do.

    4. Stevie

      Re: Translation

      No dryer function?

      Then you probably don't want to trust the hand towels in that bathroom.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The stop button is the one with a red square on it, like the stop buttons on every other device in the world.

    Also, why do you think it's normal to clean your bottoms with dry pieces of paper? You don't clean your crockery or kitchens or windows or cars or faces or feet with nothing but dry paper!

    If a restaurant served you a meal cooked with equipment that had only ever been cleaned with kitchen roll and served on plates with cutlery that had likewise never seen water you'd call the health inspectors!

    Yet you fumble blindly with a thin piece of tissue on your grubbiest of holes and think it's normal, you savages!

    1. MJI Silver badge

      I wet the toilet paper!

      And funny really my evening one is straight before my shower.

      Clean bum here!

    2. Frank Bitterlich
      Big Brother

      Stop... or Record?

      "The stop button is the one with a red square on it, like the stop buttons on every other device in the world."

      Funny, I thought it looked more like a "Record" button... and no, I wouldn't be surprised to see it having that feature, too.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "Yet you fumble blindly with a thin piece of tissue on your grubbiest of holes and think it's normal, you savages!"

      Memories of the Izal toilet paper that was non-tissue and distinctly uncomfortable to use. Apparently people still buy it.

      1. Ellipsis
        Devil

        Re: Izal

        “Toilet paper with all the absorbent qualities of an armoured car…”

        — Ben Elton, ca. 1990 (IIRC)

        1. Alien8n

          Re: Izal

          Reasonably sure we had that at school. Until we came up with the bright idea of using it to write home with. Needless to say after a few choice letters back from the precious ones' maters and paters it was soon upgraded to bog standard Scott rolls. (pun intended)

          1. Kubla Cant

            Re: Izal

            Don't knock it. Izal made quite good tracing paper and could also be used for roll-ups.

            1. Jay 2
              Happy

              Re: Izal

              Yep. Back in my early school days I recall someone requesting a trip to the toilet as they'd "run out of tracing paper".

              1. Sam Liddicott

                Re: Izal

                When we ran out of tracing paper, I offered to fetch some as I knew were it was.

                My teacher was very pleased with the supply I brought, until he heard I got it from the toilets.

                Obviously they had high-class tissue in the staff toilets.

                The pupil toilets were old stables or milking stalls or something like that.

            2. Pedigree-Pete
              Thumb Up

              Re: Izal

              ...and if you had a plasic comb it made a really good impression of a Kazoo (even if the taste was a little off). PP

          2. Sooty

            Re: Izal

            Not sure if it's the same stuff, but the toilet paper we had at school was basically a roll of greaseproof paper. Try to wipe with it, and it's halfway up your back before you can stop it, and no absorption at all.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Izal

          “Toilet paper with all the absorbent qualities of an armoured car…”

          — Ben Elton, ca. 1990 (IIRC)

          Anyone else wonder if there is a standard armoured car somewhere for calibration purposes?

          1. Ken Hagan Gold badge

            Re: standard armoured car

            I think the toilet paper is the standard. Armoured cars vary and most can be knocked out by a nuclear bomb, so they are measured in millizals.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Memories of the Izal toilet paper that was non-tissue and distinctly uncomfortable to use. Apparently people still buy it.

        Ah, Izal. I remember it from the facilities in a public park when I was much younger. Each sheet was printed with the words "Government Property". As if anyone would steal it.

        1. nijam Silver badge

          > As if anyone would steal it.

          No, it's so you could return it to them afterwards.

      3. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Memories of the Izal toilet paper that was non-tissue and distinctly uncomfortable to use

        And operated more like a strigil[1] than paper.

        [1] No - I'm not *that* old, despite what my colleagues might think..

      4. Rich 11

        Memories of the Izal toilet paper that was non-tissue and distinctly uncomfortable to use. Apparently people still buy it.

        Really? I thought only my Gran ever bought that, and she died 30 years ago.

        Izal fitted the faciltiies at my grandparents' house perfectly well. It was an outside toilet. In Yorkshire. I think they did it to discourage people from staying for the weekend in winter.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Savages

      Most of us assume it's never going to be all that clean regardless, and so we're not going to be touching it or expecting anyone else to. So the main priorities are to keep our undergarments as unmarked as possible and to avoid the shame of smelling in any noticeable way for the rest of the day. Paper is adequate for this.

      I wouldn't have dared to press any of those buttons, not just because of blind ignorance of the effects but I do wonder about the cleanliness of any water originating from within a toilet. Eww.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Savages

        Ideally, of course, you'd use a goose.

        http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/08/11/why-you-should-wipe-yourself-with-a-gooses-neck/

      2. Tikimon
        Thumb Up

        Re: Savages

        The water originates from a pipe to your house main water supply, not from the toilet bowl. It's as clean as your shower water.

    5. ProperDave

      Toilet paper must possibly be the best example of consumerism in action.

      That's the toilet paper cartels for you.

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