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Forget the government's paltry promise of universal broadband speeds of 10 Mbps by 2020. The Institute of Directors is today calling for a target of 10 gigabits per second by 2030. In its Ultrafast Britain Broadband report, author Dan Lewis said Blighty currently lives in a paradox. "It has some of the worst broadband speeds …

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    1. TRT Silver badge

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      1. Vic

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        One of us has mis-heard the words to "Industrial Disease" - and I don't think it's me...

        Vic.

        1. TRT Silver badge

          Re: Oops

          From memory - I've not listened to the song in... ooh... ten years. But yeah, I got a couple of lines inverted and a few of the more indistinct words mixed up. Doesn't change the message.

  1. TRT Silver badge

    Anyway...

    call me cynical and paint me purple, but the IoD specialists who would help compile this report no doubt have interests in the ISP / comms field, and would love to see a big old wad of tax payers cash head their way even if they've no realistic hope of delivering. I've no empirical data here, but subjectively it seems that a company can profit even if it fails to deliver on a contract to UK GOV. All that happens is that the profits are less or zero when offset against expense, certain costs are written off against tax or some such shenanigans and the news of a (on the surface of it) lucrative government contract is enough to push share prices up and somebody makes a bundle.

    I've got a lovely side-line in flying monkey butlers, and I recommend that the government immediately puts out to tender a contract for Mk 2 improved flying monkey butlers to be delivered by 2030, because we should all have one by now and the government has obviously failed to ensure that this essential service is available through lack of infrastructure investment which it must seek to redress through massive capital expenditure, but obviously done with respect to EU tendering rules to ensure value for money for the taxpayer.

    1. Roland6 Silver badge

      Re: Anyway...

      call me cynical and paint me purple, but the IoD specialists who would help compile this report no doubt have interests in the ISP / comms field

      No the IoD author has zero experience of digital infrastructure, his recent background is energy policy and prior to that banking... [see page 2 of the report which can be found here: http://www.iod.com/influencing/press-office/press-releases/uk-broadband-ambition-needs-to-be-a-thousand-times-higher ]

      I therefore think the author simply has an addiction to boiler room projections, graphs that must show never ending and rapid growth, and very large numbers. Additionally, from reading the report, the author obviously has no experience of actually building a coherent case as none of his recommendations made in the conclusion are supported by evidence presented elsewhere in the report...

      1. TRT Silver badge

        Re: Anyway...

        I see your point. Thanks for the link. What a steaming pile of doggy-doo that report is! I'm PML at the Shameron quote. "Just as our forebears effectively brought gas, electricity and water to all, we’re going to bring fast broadband to every home and business that wants it." Well, the flat I was in a few years ago didn't have gas... and I rented a cottage in Yorkshire a while back that only had gas from a propane tank and had no electricity (which, I admit, was the attraction). How many years of forbears is that? Rural infrastructure is still lagging behind centuries on. So I'm seeing unrealistic promises here. And the fact that digital business growth is plainly not linked to broadband speed, there must be other more significant factors in play. I hate to say it, but is the political climate in the UK favouring business? The case of South Korea to point - apparently very good digital infrastructure, a 5G roll out program, but a totalitarian state rife with censorship and legislation preventing whole swathes of digital activity which some would say is key (e.g. geolocation services).

        Proposing satellite as a solution... that's just laughable as a business solution. Where's the uplink? It's download only - it's a consumer solution, not a provider solution.

        But as "Research Director of the Economic Research Council www.erccouncil.org from 2003-2009 where his role was to organise events, produce, write and edit papers, garner media coverage and set up and run the website", he must have had some exposure to WWW use at least.

  2. Martin an gof Silver badge
    Meh

    10Gb to the home?

    Forget getting it to the premises, is there actually any kit capable of 10Gbps suitable for the home yet? As far as I'm aware even at the cheap end of the market you are talking £200 - £300+ for a switch with a 10Gbps uplink port (and the SFP to fit it) and 1Gbps copper client ports. Netgear's new all-10G switches for SMBs are in the £600+ range. For the home market you need an 8-port switch in the £10 - £20 bracket, and what about 10G network adapters?

    Even by 2030 this doesn't make a lot of sense. 1Gb to the premises is a more achievable goal and just as useful - 1Gbps will easily deliver (as a previous commentard noted) multiple (think, dozens of) simultaneous 4k video streams.

    But to be honest just 10Mbps really will make a big difference to people if it actually has a reliable 10Mbps throughput and (the key thing) if it is universally available across the country. 100Mbps would be more than enough for most people so long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

    M.

    1. Naselus

      Re: 10Gb to the home?

      "Forget getting it to the premises, is there actually any kit capable of 10Gbps suitable for the home yet?"

      IF your home happens to be within 30m of the exchange, then you bet. Otherwise, god no.

    2. Paul Crawford Silver badge

      Re: 10Gb to the home?

      You seem to forget this is 14 years from now. 14 years ago 1Gbit was a dream for most, and now all PC motherboards come with GBit ports, and a lot of home routers are Gbit.

      Oh yes, sorry forgot about laptops even with £1k price tags with no Ethernet and relying on WiFi that struggles to get 10Mbit on a good day in a built-up area...

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gbit FTTP

    We have 1 GBit FTTP available for connection to the house here; the specs look impressive and include symmetric upload/download speeds so things like online backup become an attractive option. Sadly the cabling company have done a deal with TalkTalk...

    On a side note, a new gang have just been round to redo the street cabling because the previous lot skimped on the work; contrary to a current stereotype the skimpers were from Eastern Europe and the rescue work is being done by some plucky Brits.

  4. Alan Brown Silver badge

    "Our digital economy has grown in spite of, not because of, our digital infrastructure."

    And that's about the point of it.

    One of the biggest drivers of the separation of Telco and Linesco in the NZ version of BT and Openreach were reports from the commerce ministries about how much the monopoly abuse was costing the economy.

    Such analysis seems sorely lacking from UK government bodies. The damage being done is a commercial matter, not telecommunications and OFCOM is incompetent to assess it. It's no surprise they won't cleave openreach. The NZ version of OFCOM proved equally reluctant to do so and the push came from the treasury and commerce ministries (simple lever: Any further broadband funding is contingent on separation.)

  5. All names Taken
    Alien

    A reply of sorts ...

    Anyway...

    call me cynical and paint me purple

    You are cynical and ought to be painted purple!

    Not many realise that resources are finite and limited so increasing taxes either directly or by stealth just means that there is less dosh in the pot for entrepreneurial and/or limited business

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    '"Very high bandwidth and world-leading speeds in remote corners of the UK will never have the same positive dynamic impact as in a concentrated bustling city centre with thriving digital businesses," said the IoD report.'

    Translation: Nobody who matters lives north of Watford.

  7. Kaltern

    I say forget about all this cabling nonsense. I want to get my internet by DroneFi - or possibly BalloonFi, and just worry about keeping them up there.

    After all, didn't those clever folks in Japan come up with a really good wireless speed?

    Then OpenReach would be OutofReach.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "I say forget about all this cabling nonsense. I want to get my internet by DroneFi - or possibly BalloonFi, and just worry about keeping them up there."

      I think that's actually a significant part of the problem. Investment in FTTx will take 10 years or more to pay back. The speed of improvement in mobile networks is such that ubiquitous high-speed cellular coverage could well overtake fixed line networks in price and performance before the FTTx investment has been recouped.

      Strategically then, it would be better for a telco to buy a mobile operator than it would to dig up the roads.

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