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Microsoft has kicked off the New Year – and the run-up to the annual CES hypemare in Las Vegas – with the latest figures on Windows 10 adoption, claiming that over 200 million devices now run the operating system. "As of today, there are more than 200 million monthly active devices around the world running Windows 10," …

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Re: But Xboxes are selling very well

XB1s are doing fine, in fact pretty well

However, I expect they (XB1's) would be selling a hell of a lot better if MS had paid more attention to the real world and peer groups!

Most of my son's friends have in the past year had their Wii's upgraded to Xbox 360's by their parents, because XB360's and games are readily obtainable at favourable prices in the used market. Given XB1 is for most purposes totally incompatible with XB360, and that applies to both console-based and online gaming environments; why would I buy an XB1?

In fact once we make the decision to either not buy or replace the XB360, there is little to hinder us in evaluating the PS4, XB1 or wait until Nintendo unveil their new console... (Aside: Steam hasn't yet made it into the world of pre-teenage boys wanting to play FIFA and hence doesn't get mentioned.)

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Re: But Xboxes are selling very well

11m XB1 sold 20m shipped is best data available.

36m PS4

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Re: But Xboxes are selling very well

@Timmy B

And your evidence for that is what? Your opinion???

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Re: But Xboxes are selling very well

Well we have 4 consoles under the TV, one I never use myself except to weigh myself, and one not used in about a year.

The not used is the best selling of all time, but it is old.

The rarely was the best selling last generation.

The two used are the replacement models for the first

None are MS, and I am not a fan of Nintendo games (prefered the contemparies from Sega)

So I am part of the PS4 success

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I suppose I am one of the lucky 200 million but at the same time not one.

Last autumn I backed up my main work PC Windows 7 installation using Macrium Reflect and proceeded with the "upgrade" to Windows 10 (using the offline ISO method). This wasn't a test to see if it worked (plenty of others have done that) it was to establish whether it could be a realistic working system for me; that I could seamlessly move my working arrangements from Win7 to Win10 in much the same way as I did from XP to Win7. I would accept a bit of change but in the relationship with my desktop friends I am the customer and they are the supplier.

It worked OK but the UI is still targeted at touch screens, tablets etc. It was difficult to use as a serious desktop. It seemed to extend the Windows 8/8.1 line of development rather than be more like Windows 7.

So I spent quite a bit of time customising the desktop using both Win10 and external tweaks and in the end got it into a semblance of working order. Standing back to admire my work I realised that I had made it look fairly close to Windows 7. Then came the incessant updates and I noticed how much it was dialing home to Redmond so I thought "sod it - all this has been done for Bill Gates' benefit not mine". I junked the Win10 installation and restored Win7 which is where I am now.

So, I expect that I am counted as a new Windows 10 user (I had to create a Microsoft account and an installation id etc) but in reality I am happy to see that pile of crud go the same way as Windows 8.

Windows 7 will be maintained until spring 2020 and I doubt whether many of my network of 7 PCs will survive past then so upgrading now is pointless. In the meantime my Music PC and one of my laptops are working nicely on Linux Mint. It is remarkable how much better the open source OS is getting. Anyone with the time to spare experimenting with OS changes should lose their Linux virginity. Who knows, you may enjoy it.

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Lies, Dammed lies and Statistics

So how many people would have upgraded if it wasn't free?

How many people would have bought an alternative if Win10 wasn't preloaded on the new shiny?

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Well, I would have done. I was planning to sit out 8 and build a machine for 9, when it came, but had to do summat sharpish and ended up paying for 8.1 as a distress purchase. I could not get an OEM copy of W7

If 10 had not been free I would have cheerfully paid for 10

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Devil

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Free software? Why am I reminded of this :

http://dilbert.com/strip/2001-01-06

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7 and 10

Well,

I've installed Windows 10 on a laptop that is mostly used when I travel, or once a week for random bits and bobs. I've cleaned it up with classic shell and installed Spybot anti-beacon to try and stop MS from monitoring all that I do on it.

However, even though it works fine now, and I haven't had many problems with it, I doubt i'll be upgrading my primary PC (windows 7 desktop) to windows 10, I just don't see the point.

Oh, and installing Windows 10 on the laptop totally disabled my wifi connection - on a laptop that doesn't have the option for wired internet - Not a great thing for an install to do, good job I had a second pc to obtain the relevant drivers.

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To summarise.

200 million people gave in to nagging or were forced updates or were sold in the usual Christmas peak as people bought shiny new tech that didn't come with Win 7.

...And I had heard the PS4 was a 4:1 sale rate against Xbone. Christmas will have inflated the figures I am sure.

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Regrets...

Bought an Asus laptop with Windows 10 and beginning to regret it. Still no solution seemingly to downloading contact list details onto live mail and last night, a Windows update started at 11 pm and finished at 3.00am. Appeared to update the entire OS or so it seemed to me.!

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'The world's most popular operating system'

...in the same way that gonorrhoea is the UK's 'most popular' STD.

Lots of people have it, that doesn't mean they're enjoying the experience.

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200 million devices

So will this be revised down to 199,999,999 when I get around to defenestrating the laptop I bought in December?

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Re: 200 million devices

I put win10 on a test VM over Christmas and after lots of exploring of features and settings I had to ask myself that I was on a sodding smartphone rather than a serious* computer operating system.

Win7 can run until 2020 and by then I will have chosen a successor - be it a Linux version or even a Mac (still can't believe I am even considering the latter but I am!)

*(yeah I know - its Windows)

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Shockingly poor numbers

Given how difficult they have made it to refuse the "free" "upgrade", I'm pretty astonished at how poor these numbers are. That's an awful lot of refuseniks who are only going to get more annoyed by the Redmond racheting up the pressure.

-A.

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Interesting point !

MS says 200m on Win 10 !

Does this count all the Win 7 Pro users that migrated to Win 10 and then went back ?

Does this count all Win 10 downloads (sometimes due to failures Win 10 downloaded multiple times !)

As far as I understand it Win 10 had 120m users then suddenly after they include Xbox and others it is 200m !

As I don't have an XBox one of my biggest gripes with Win 10 was all the extra shite it included that I didn't want and didn't want to see on my PC, things Xbox, OneDrive, Calender, News, Mail (I use webmail) just so many stupid things cluttering up my Desktop that I had no interest in with no sensible way to disable without resorting to PowerShell or 3rd party hacks etc and that with Windows Update debacle and the whole data slurping idea made me return to ye olde faithful Win 7 64 Pro.

To be honest I gave it a fare go, 2 whole months of pain for me (I am a techie) yes I was an early adopter of Win 7 as well as Win 10, but Win 10 is just going in the opposite direction than I want to go.

I have a query which I doubt anybody will be able to answer about whole MS Data Slurping thing, So MS will start pumping adverts on the desktop like they do in Skype, since they have access to what you do, I wonder if you browse a porn site or Cars or Houses or dating sites if that will start pumping adverts for those on your desktop, could be pretty embarrassing if its a Work PC or if children are around when you are on your PC and MS decide to shove an advert on your screen of porn !

Will the adverts follow you from PC to PC and or Xbox - lol that to could be embarrassing on a full HD 55" screen - rofl.

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Devil

And the real figures are...

If we can figure out a way to count in all IoT devices as well, then we will claim that everyone on the planet uses at least one copy of Win 10.

Then we can save a fortune by shutting down the M$ marketing department........

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When a free upgrade does only a little better than a paid one (10 vs. 7)...

... maybe it's not such a success, is it?

And of course almost nobody was willingly to pay for 8. Strange they didn't compare it with Vista...

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Yawn

Still hating on MSFT then. Whatever happened to the 2016 resolution to move on from being a comic?

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200 million Win X devices? Really?

Where on the net can we find them?

Desktop Net Market Share?

Windows 7 55.68%

Windows XP 10.93%

Windows 8.1 10.30%

Windows 10 9.96%

Mac OS X 10.11 2.99%

Windows 8 2.76%

Mac OS X 10.10 2.23%

Linux 1.66%

Vista 1.62%

Less than 10% share 6 months after starting a free giveaway?

Hmm, on the bright side less than 1% behind XP!

Mobile Net Market Share?

iPhone 19.41%

Android 4.4 18.65%

iPad 15.88%

Android 4.2 9.49%

Android 5.0 9.31%

Android 5.1 7.70%

Android 4.1 3.37%

Java ME 1.85%

Windows Phone OS 8.1 1.75%

Android 4.3 1.75%

Symbian 1.70%

Android 4.0 1.18%

BlackBerry 1.05%

Android 2.3 0.92%

Android 6.0 0.54%

Windows Phone OS 8.0 0.39%

Windows Phone OS 10.0 0.23%

0.23% of mobile activity, Tablets and Phones, even worse.

(Data source here: https://netmarketshare.com/)

Must be a lot of Xbones about then...

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"Now can you give us a break with these upgrade screens?"

I have a small pocket-sized P720 laptop from Sony. Windows 7.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

It offers Windows 10. Click on it, "This laptop is not support due the screen driver." Close.

...

Dear Microsoft, please fix this. It's quite silly and making you appear daft.

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This takes me back to the last days of Steve Ballmer as Microsoft CEO

There was one time when an interviewer tried to ask him to define what exactly is a PC... Ballmer then declares that every device is a PC: phones, tablets, game consoles etc.

I believe this tactic was done for the Vietnam war too: when you are losing or in a stalemate, reframe the paradigm, modify the parameters of assessment, and declare yourselves the winner. A clever media spin afterwards will surely convince the masses of your so-called victory.

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This:

"and 2.5 billion questions asked of its Cortana digital assistant".

of which 2.49 billion were how to turn the fucking useless privacy invading bint off.

Ask "her" for Alsager Leisure Centre, "she" will accept that but then find the Victoria Community Centre.

Utterly hopeless unless you want to end up in the wrong place.

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