back to article French Google fund to pay for 1 million print run of Charlie Hebdo next week

Money put into a fund by Google as a sweetener for French publishers during the link tax row of 2013 will be used to pay for next week’s edition of Charlie Hebdo. Following an attack by gunmen on the magazine's offices in Paris on Wednesday – in which 12 people were killed – the media world has come together to support the …

Good for you

Well done El Reg for printing the covers!

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Acailability

I hope that either Charlie Hebdo sells copies on Fleabay for a sensible price, or it's made available as a download (preferably with translations, my French is terrible!)

And +1 for printing the covers. The press needs to stick together on this one, journalism is not an act of war.

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Bravo!

for posting the cartoons

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Available as t-shirts?

Where can we get them as a T-Shirt... I'll have the set.

Preferably proceeds to the families...

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Good stuff.

Salman Rushdie sums up my thoughts well on this: "Religion, a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry becomes a threat to our freedom".

The shear number of people of belive in sky-fairies is frightening. Perhaps it's not surprising when so many people believe in ancient fairy-tales that a few of the less benign ones follow what their special books can easily be interpreted to say.

There is no reasoning with the illogical. Sadly it is almost certain that more people will die because intolerant people with guns believe in dogshit.

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re: Salman Rushdie

I'm tempted to buy his book. However, I read half of it 25 years ago and, truth be told, I was bored out of my mind. It's a difficult decision.

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I wish..

..the Hactivist group would post the cartoons on the Jihadist web sites so the offended go after them rather than just take the site down.

Anon as I am allergic to beheading.

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You missed an important cover.

We can take it, right?

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Re: You missed an important cover.

I'm English and I approve of this message.

P.

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Re: You missed an important cover.

Etre méprisés par les Français est souvent un compliment pour les autres. N'oubliez pas Dien Bien Phu.

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El Reg

There are reasons why El Reg has been my home page for the last 20-odd years, and this article is one.

Oh...and the Peter Cook homage on the same day..... :)

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I do hope

that an English version will be made available.(just for ease)

A nominal additional monetary charge to support the families of all the people whom have lost their lives in France in the last few days would not be objected to either...

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Let's have some Charlie spam

I'd like to see every Charlie Hebdo cartoon emailed to every email address in the Middle East - repeatedly. OK, I know this will be seen as "bad taste" but it would be a darn site more interesting than the daily spam I get from the middle east ever since I signed up for the Emirates frequent flyer program.

Kickstarter program anyone?

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Re: Let's have some Charlie spam

Just because three pathetic little European criminals claim to be doing something for a particular region of the world, doesn't mean we should target that region of the world.

I vote for a Google Doodle, including the full range of Charlie's targets.

(per released details, at the time of writing, all three were raised and educated in France. The birth country has been released for only one: it was also France)

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Thanks to Google

For funding freedom of speech. It's a bit distrurbing, though, that it needs google to be funded anyway, but we'll see ...

Nous somme tous Charlie, pour toujours ...

What a fucking week it was for me ... 2 of the cartoonists (Cabu, Wozniak) I've been appreciating for a quarter of a century being killed this way ... Worst week ever ...

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Re: Thanks to Google

Thanks to Google? Why should Google get any credit for this. They made no conscious decision to partake in this at all. What a joke!

No, Google rightfully copped it for their usual business practice of distributing other peoples work for free, thus denying them their rightful earnings for their own work while Google creams ad revenue from it.

The fund was set up to benefit the publishing / journalistic industry in any way they see fit. Anybody who sees this as some heroic act by Google is as deluded as those Muslim nut jobs and their Koran hatred guide to the world.

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@messele

Andrew Orlowski will appreciate and borrow this sentiment from you for the next anti-Google article of his, I am sure.

As a matter of fact I agree with most of your findings: Google is not a hero for doing this, it was just a right thing to do, MS, Apple and others should have done the same, they didn't.. And it's in the Google's business DNA to do this. Simply because their business revolves around Free Press and they get pretty unhappy when this liberty is under threat.

As for for publishing the cartoons by ElReg, I am not sure if it's a heroism, there is no doubt that it a very honorable, bold and just a right thing to do. Other members of the free press should have done the same, since ils sont juste comme nous tous sommes Charlie

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Nous somme Charlies

The murderers have recently returned from Syria where they were fighting against Assad (after being trained in Jordan by western special forces), were known to the French security services, and yet managed to acquire AK47 and a RPG launcher. Queue security service demands for even more power and surveillance.

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Not all satire is good satire

For further reading:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-09/sparrow-we-should-support-charlie-hebdo-not-endorse-it/6007836

And (linked from the article above):

http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2015/01/in-the-wake-of-charlie-hebdo-free-speech-does-not-mean-freedom-from-criticism/

I'd never even heard of the magazine in question before the last couple of days, and I certainly agree that no-one should ever be murdered for expressing an opinion. Just putting these links out there as an interesting viewpoint. :-)

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Merci el reg pour les "Charlie Hebdo covers" et le courage

we are all Charlie,

nous sommes tous Charlie

je suis Charlie

et

pour l'anonymous la haut

je t'emmerde

Posted from France

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Re: Merci el reg pour les "Charlie Hebdo covers" et le courage

Well said.

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I'd love to buy a copy, I'm not sure where I can in the UK, but I'll certainly be looking.

I worry a bit that this will provoke a backlash against innocent people. There is the Pegida movement in Germany and it's hard to forget Anders Breivik and his motives. This won't help.

This isn't a nice way for the world to be turning.

Je suis Charlie

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I worry a bit that this will provoke a backlash against innocent people. There is the Pegida movement in Germany and it's hard to forget Anders Breivik and his motives. This won't help.

Indeed, but if anything this should work against such groups. Religious zealots from any side are a threat to any nation's security and should be dealt with.

Fortunately, it seems that the worst groups aren't grabbing the JeSuisCharlie flag and are instead saying "they deserved it for mocking religion". Probably because Charlie Hebdo didn't just mock Muslims; if you check their Twitter account you'll see that their avatar is a mockery of Christmas (Le Petit Jesus).

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Google?

If Google is funding the print run (and distribution?) where are the sales recepts going? To the families of the deceased, I hope.

As an aside, I'm annoyed with the French police for killing the brothers. I wanted to see them tranquillised or tasered, put in court and given life sentences, rather than being martyred.

Je suis Charlie.

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Re: Tasered

Given that the murderers had Kalashnikovs, rocket propelled grenades, Molotov coctails, handguns and hostages it's not easy to be critical of the authorities.

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"The cash will come from €60m fund (€20m per year over three years) that supports digital publishing innovation. The fund was set up in 2013 following negotiations between Google and the French government as a remedy to demands from European publishers that Google pay for displaying news snippets in its search results."

So, they're diverting funds from a court-ordered penalty they were already legally obligated to pay, to a feel-good "collector's edition" of a paper that usually sees a miniscule % of that for a full run? Larry&Sergey(&Eric) could pull that much cash out of their couch cushions.

This is not a humanitarian gesture, folks. This is lawyers picking over a fresh corpse.

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Do you know what i have noticed?

The sound of utter silence from prominent Muslim leaders denouncing the killings..

Odd that 'innit......

*No, course it fucking isn't. Sooner the non Muslims realise we are all non-believers in their (Muslims) eyes, the sooner we can stop the pretence of this being anything other than religious and treat it like the fucking war it is...

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

Funny you should say that. It seemed to me that this was the first time many of them actually did, which was a good feeling.

For example

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

Bollocks.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/paris-murders-jan-08-15/

Probably just that the section of the press written for intellectually challenged knuckle draggers like yourself aren't reporting it.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

You obviously aren't looking very hard.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

What like the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury lined up to apologise for that twat Brevik?

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

Yes, they’re Condemning the Paris Attacks: The Muslims’ War on Terror

Hezbollah Leader Says Islamic Extremists Have Hurt Islam More Than Cartoonists

Try doing some research before shooting off your mouth. Stop making it necessary for the rest of us to condemn your bigotry.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

There is no "moderate" or "extreme" Islam - there is *only* Islam. Keep reminding yourself of this over and over until it registers.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

The only ones that haven't so as far as I know (only because I haven't checked yet today) are the Saudis. Even Iran, China, etc have respoinded. I was surprised that Hezbollah jumped in, however.

I'll leave it to others to argue why the Saudis have yet to condemn it.... though given their ties to the extremists/fundementalists/nutcases/etc., I don't think they will except as some sort of token statement.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

There are no moderate or extreme Christians or Jews, there are only Christians and Jews. So there is no difference between Justin Welby and the Reverend Ian Paisley, or between Julia Neuberger and Binyamin Netanyahu.

See how silly it sounds when you make a substitution of religions you actually might know something about?

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

When someone advocates evil in the name of a god, I always remember someone who committed an act of evil in the name of Steffi Graf.

Do you think she was glad to have fans who stab her rivals? It makes the caricature of Mohammed bemoaning his followers, or the Spitting Image sketches of Jehovah being exasperated by his own followers, seem all that more real.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

@ the OP

I won't call you a liar because you are simply ignorant, and surprisingly wrong.

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Re: Keep reminding yourself ...over and over until it registers.

Actually, that's quite a funny joke you wrote there.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

It depends on whom you consider the Muslim leaders. It's all on the media to get the quotes from the right ones.

What I notice is the fear of a backlash and I think the Muslims leaders are the last ones who should be talking about that. Call for restraint must come from somewhere else or it's just a parody.

Curious to see how the march on Sunday will turn out. It would be a good time to put an end to the yearly burning of cars in the Paris suburbs or they might very well be yearly reprisals as well. That is what the French Muslim leaders should focus on.

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

"There is no "moderate" or "extreme" Islam - there is *only* Islam"

Really, now? Is this the same Islam that built a whole fucking minaret to Jesus in the name of religious tolerance?!? You know, I might not know about that if I haven't been there myself...

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Re: Do you know what i have noticed?

Quite possibly not the same Islam. The religion has split into two main groups and numerous splinter groups. The current brand of troublemakers is an off shoot of Wahhabi-ism for which we have the Saudis to thank. They make everyone else in Islam to be pacifists by comparison.

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Je suis Charlie

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Re. Proportional response

Drop 100,000 copies of the comics on pendrive over Syria,Iran etc.

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Re: Re. Proportional response

Which will achieve what?

Most Iranians know they are run by a dysfunctional military dictatorship masquerading as a theocracy (the Revolutionary Guards have pinched most of the assets.) Before that they had a military dictatorship friendly to Western oil companies. Before that...they had a democracy which was brought to an end by US interference.

Then there's Syria, which Assad tried to run as a fairly secular state with increasing repression of the loonies, until the US decided that some of the loonies were on "our" side and decided to give them guns and ammunition, at which point they went off and tried to create a Caliphate.

Spot the common factor? It's those Islamist-supporting,dictatorship-supporting born again Christians at Langley, Va. that need Charlie Hebdo dropped on them.

The least we can do is support Assad and the Kurds militarily.

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I reckon those terrorists were *really* brave! They armed themselves to the teeth with automatic weapons and a rocket launcher, then proceeded to walk into an office and kill unarmed people who were just doing their daily job in the office. How brave of the gunmen!

Then, when they met people who also had weapons, well, we know how it ended. The terrorists were just pathetic when someone could match them. They're definitely not martyrs, but they're definitely dead!

Je suis Charlie!

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General quotes on the topic

I can't put it better than these people

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/freedom-of-speech

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Martyrs to Freedom of the Press

This is a good time to mention one of the earliest martyrs to the freedom of the press (perhaps the earliest and certainly the earliest over here) Mr Elijah Lovejoy, who himself was a religious figure in Murica in the 19th century. He died in 1837 in Alton Il defending his printing presses from pro slavery forces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_United_States

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/david-shribman/2012/11/04/America-s-first-martyr-to-free-speech/stories/201211040178

see the monument

Nature Lover , once of Alton,IL

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Nature Lover

At this somber time let us recall one of the first martyrs to the freedom of the press(the first?) Elijah Lovejoy. He died at the hands of a proslavery mob in November, 1837 in Alton,Illinois. He was, I might note, a trained Christian minister. Just as a contrast to some of the assertions earlier as to one's beliefs.

some links:

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/david-shribman/2012/11/04/America-s-first-martyr-to-free-speech/stories/201211040178

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_United_States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Parish_Lovejoy

Nature Lover

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