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Apple head honcho Tim Cook has explained why the iPod classic had to die: Apple couldn’t get the parts any more. Cook explained to the WSJ.D Live conference in California that “the engineering work” required to sustain the spinning-platters jukebox “was massive, and the number of people who wanted it very small. I felt there …


  1. Winkypop Silver badge

    I love my iPod classic 160G

    I use it 8+ hours a day.

    I want BIG storage capacity and I don't need 3G/wifi connectivity.

    I will cry when Betsy dies.

    Now where did I put that old 20G iPod?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Thanks Apple...

    So what do I put my 70GB of music in iTunes on once my iPod Classic dies now?

    1. Tom 38 Silver badge

      Re: Thanks Apple...

      The cloud, use local storage as a MFU cache.

    2. joejack

      Re: Thanks Apple...

      I also use a Sansa Clip+. Not the sexiest UI, but it's dirt cheap, good sound quality with EQ, FM radio, voice recording, standard phone charger to charge it, physical controls make it easy to control without looking at it, Rhapsody integration if you want streaming, and a memory card slot for an extra 128GB in storage. Although Sandisk really needs to up the processing power IMO. "Refreshing your media" takes entirely too long.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Thanks Apple...

      "So what do I put my 70GB of music in iTunes on once my iPod Classic dies now?"

      Compress it by 10% and sling it onto a 64GB iPod touch?

    4. gnasher729 Silver badge

      Re: Thanks Apple...

      You go to the nearest Apple Store and ask for an "out-of-warranty repair". Should be £102 and they'll give you a new iPod Classic. Apple stopped selling them; that doesn't mean there aren't any left. Now unlike a modern(ish) phone that they have in the store and hand over immediately, you'll probably have to wait a few days.

  3. Robert Ramsay

    I'm getting a Fiio X5 for my birthday.

    That is all, thank you.

    1. John Gamble

      Re: I'm getting a Fiio X5 for my birthday.

      Hmm. Plays FLAC files, looks sturdy, has a thumb wheel. Okay, adding it to my list of possible iPod replacements. Thanks.

  4. Mondo the Magnificent

    iPod classic

    I love the classic, seriously, the clickwheel just does it for me, I still have two, 30 & 60GB respectively.

    One in black, the other in white.

    I recall the U2 [engraved autograph] versions in red, yes U2 does have a history with the iPod classic as well as a faux par with iTunes recently too..

    Fortunately you can keep your old iPods alive, there are a few specialist sites that keep parts, like the clickwheel, displays, hard disks and batteries for them.

    I've revived a few old iPods that had failed and friends were going to junk. It's usually a battery or disk failure.

    Perhaps some developer can come up with a classic clickwheel iPod type interface for the under endowed iPod Touch? That way die hard clickwheel generation fans can feel all nostalgic when pawing their iPod Touch devices..

  5. Anonymous Coward


    Odd...nobody mention the average quality sound that the iProducts still rocking Nokia 5800Xpress puts to shame any player i put it to test.

    1. Sean Timarco Baggaley

      Re: Quality

      "Odd...nobody mention the average quality sound that the iProducts deliver"

      Apple's devices tend to be rated quite highly for sound quality, with only the occasional exception over the years.

      Besides, nobody's plugging these into a high-end NAD amp and multi-thousand-quid speakers anyway, so who gives a toss? The paying public—the only subset of "the public" that matters to any business interested in making a profit—certainly doesn't.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Quality

        Err...nope, I'm talkng about average headphones,,,like the ones that come with the iProducts :-P

  6. Jim 59


    What MartinB105 said about Sansa Clip/Rockbox. Clips have been my choice ever since my Archos obsolesced itself around 2007. Nothing could be easier - the limitless slot keeps up with technology, compatible with everything, doubles as a chunky USB disk. Weighs about a gram. Battery 12 hours. Eventually the jack wears out but you just replace the whole thing for like £20 and swap your SD over.

    Rockbox is currently transitioning into a smartphone app, and may not be developed separately as an OS in future.

    1. Gannettt

      Re: Sansa/Rockbox

      Agreed. have had two clip+, current one is 4Gb with a 32Gb microSD card and I still need more storage! The sound quality could be a little better, but for the price, it's a winner.

      I still have my old 1Gb Iriver T30 from 2005, great sound quality, and uses an AAA battery. Goes to show if you look after things, they last! Unfortunately my venerable 256Mb Iriver IFP-990 recently developed corrupted memory, so sad, that was a very versatile and great-sounding little device.

  7. Stevie Silver badge


    I like my 16gig nano (no longer made) but was on the point of stumping up for a Classic despite the tooth-achingly unfit-for-purpose overly-converged controls* because of the capacity.

    I'm not by any means a rabid music aficionado but I have just under 70 gig of my collection digitized and since I like listening to *albums*, I do NOT sync mostly playlists "like the vast majority".

    My taste-of-the-day is eclectic and subject to whim, and I'd love to be able to follow those whims without having to use The Spice to see into the future. Looks like I'm on the hunt for a competitor's product.

    * Any device should have a separate ON/OFF switch that does not require a computer to work out the context of what is being done before it decides - 30% of the time incorrectly - what I want to happen, and no music player should require it to be in operation before the volume can be adjusted. Can't count the times I've absently flicked over to the radio only to be deafened by the change in gain.

  8. Gannettt


    I had been toying with the idea of buying a classic for about 3 years, but it was just a bit too expensive, so i put it off. now i'm able to afford it, they stop it and the second-hand market has gone bananas. i did consider a touch, but for a 64Gb the price is ridiculous. I can't seem to find any decent large-capacity audio players anywhere, any suggestions?

    Thanks apple!

  9. Julian Bond


    I'm one of those strange dinosaurs who collects music and wants to take it all with me in a device with good battery life. So what I really wanted was a 1Tb iPod Classic. And by the usual standards of the electronics industry I should have had one by now. So when Tim Cook says "there were reasonable alternatives", I'd love to know what they are. And although a Sansa plus SD card makes a lot of sense, SSD is still too expensive in >128Gb sizes. I hit the limits on my 6th gen 160Gb about 5 years ago, so definitely want 250Gb and preferably 512Gb.

    There are expensive and increasingly difficult options of taking a 2nd hand 5.5 or 7th gen Classic and fitting a 240Gb disk. But the firmware can't really cope as there are some hard limits you'd run up against.

    Getting on for 10 years ago now I had a Creative Xen based on a 2.5" disk. I really wouldn't mind the extra size and weight of a 2.5" disk based device and that would mean it was that much more likely to survive into the future.

    I know it's a small market but what is the alternative? Is there one?

  10. Mr Larrington


    I was going to buy a 160 Gb Classic but decided to leave it until after my holibobs. When I returned to Blighty the gits had stopped making it and chancers were asking $SILLY_MONEY. My old and faithful 60 Gb is down to 2 Gb free.

    I have a refurbished 160 Gb model now, hopefully this will last until the Mega-Global Fruit Corporation realises that 64 Gb is too frikkin' small.

  11. Moogal

    Those suggesting keeping everything in the cloud have evidently never had occasion to listen to music on the tube, or on a train where the reception is anything between patchy and non-existent, even around major cities.


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