Apple is KILLING OFF BONKING, cries mobe research dude

The whole thing was just a solution searching for a problem. Good riddance I say.

Re. Sync per Bonk

I had an interesting conversation with the droid at a certain shop today re. NFC.

One possible use would be synchronizing BT headsets with a device without all this tiresome messing about with tiny buttons.

Also would work with smartwatches, all it would need is a simple interface which detects an unsynced device and copies over the code the first time it sees a host device ie. a phone.

Alternate use: NFC equipped memory cards that only unlock if they see the device they were locked to so that not only can you find a dropped/lost card with a hand held scanner but no-one else can read back the protected area with the encryption key.

No thanks for NFC

Credit & Debit cards already have NFC, Lidl accepts NFC Debit cards.

But it's an inherently less secure tech than sticking the card in the slot. Almost no advantage.

NFC on a phone is even sillier.

NFC is good for Warehouse pallets. Which it was invented for. Stupid for payments and individual products (barcodes are far cheaper and more privacy secure in the retail context ).

'sfunny reading all these comments when you go to an NFC conference it's full of people saying that NFC is just what the market wants.

I like my health...

I like my pay by bonk card... more shops support it, just keep a beady eye out for logo on the terminal... a tap and im done... it saves just moments of typing in a pin, but more importantly it does save me from touching the filthy terminal keypad

tapping my phone? it was one of the features I was hoping for with my new phone... the hardware is there, (Lumina 920) the carrier supported wireless payments (Orange) but the software was only available for about two different handsets...

surprising number of people

being extremely conservative about pay-by-wave on here, hardly the tech-adopting folk I'd expect.

I've been using it on my credit card for over a year now, most larger retailers (and small stores thereof) now accept it - all the supermarkets, boots (superdrug I think), m&s and an array of sandwich-shop type chains. I think even McD's is pay-by-wave now. It's massively convenient, almost entirely removes the need for coins and is incredibly quick - quicker than chip and pin and quicker than cash.

I'd love to have it on my nexus 5 but as others have mentioned above, no support. That's not a huge surprise though - the bbc can't be bothered to support the nexus 5 for downloads yet.

no, Google killed it!!!

Right now I'm on my 3rd NFC capable Android phone and I've never used it once. Why? Because says nooooooo you're a dirty not american, f*** you, we hate you and your money so no Google wallet for you!!!

Use it all the time

I use contactless payment with my credit cards all the time. I find it handy to be able to just wave it and go. Of course, it is open to a number of security issues, but most of them are protected against, or overhyped.

On my phone, though? I'd rather have it in the driver's side wing mirror of my car so I can get in and out of carparks on cold mornings without having to open the window.

As for an "analyst" predicting it will take off because of Apple. It's true that Apple can drive technology adoption. We had PCs with USB ports for years before the first iMac came out, but no-one had any USB accessories available. But they have shown absolutely no interest in NFC. They've been using a combination of QR codes (in Passbook) and Bluetooth LE (in iBeacons) to do all those amazing things people said NFC could do, so what's the point?

Basically, I don't expect it to happen, and the people who say it is "definitely going to happen with the iPhone N+1[S] are just extracting the information rectally. This guy is just trying to shift the blame onto Apple for his own incompetence.

From the states....

I've been using NFC on my phone with google wallet for a few weeks now... local stores finally upgraded and activated their payment stations to support it.

Likes:

I like that wallet hides my 'real' CC number.

I like I get an email when wallet processes a payment.

I like not having to fumble through my wallet for discount cards and credit cards at the stand. I never realized what a hassle it was until I started using my phone this way.

seems faster than the chip reader

Dislikes:

not turned on in enough places

Trying to decide if I want to leave NFC radio turned off when I'm not actually using it, or if the fact I only put a single payment option, that has extra protection against being defrauded on it is 'good enough'.

which means, in my mind, basic security is going to inhibit the designed goal of dumping all your money into google wallet, where it's actually at risk. Using the tool to keep things separate seems like a better way to take advantage of the convenience, while limiting my exposure. (I also don't keep cash in my wallet, stays in a different pocket. What can I say, I'm big on 'no single point of failure')