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Christian schoolchildren who pay attention during Religious Education classes will at some point independently wonder why there are more Commandments than Deadly Sins. Keep your Commandments – why are there only seven naughty things to do in one’s life? Even by the age of 12, most youngsters could invent plenty more juicy sins …

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      1. Justin Clements

        Re: Strange Article

        >Yes, with localtalk you may have been able to plug your laser printer straight in, but it only went at 256kb a second (IIRC) it was slower than Econet on a BBC Micro. The protocol was so talkative that the actual resulting bandwidth was piss-poor. The PC may have been a right old pain in the pain to setup the networking, but once you had you could plug in to Ethernet, or Token Ring and actually talk to other open systems.

        Again, here is the revisionism, you thought it was crap, but it wasn't. IIRC LocalTalk barely got you 8kb per second, I mean, it was slow. No doubt about that.

        But at the time it was reasonably fast because the files were tiny in comparison to today. Just the fact that you could network two machines together so easily is overlooked. Whilst someone on a PC was messing around Novell (?) the Mac did it from out the box with nothing extra, you could talk some secreatary over the phone in a few mouse presses how to share her files to another Mac.

        As I said earlier, so many people overlook what a joy Macs were to use and work on, even back in the 80s and 90s.

        Heck, if you want to see how overengineered a Mac SE was - I replugged a machine once - pulled the power cord out and stuck a new one in. In the second, to maybe second and a half that it was unplugged, it stayed powered! There was enough current in the PSU to keep it running!

    1. TheOtherHobbes

      Re: Strange Article

      >Just because you're a journalist doesn't suddenly make you insightful.

      You, sir, have taken my fragile childish illusions and dropped a mountain of despair onto them.

      Woe.

    2. Irony Deficient

      MULTIPLE SCREENS!!

      Justin, my IBM PC XT had two monitors in 1985 (one color for the IBM CGA card, one monochrome for the Hercules Graphic Card). You might be surprised at how little IRQ manipulation was required for that setup.

      1. Justin Clements

        Re: MULTIPLE SCREENS!!

        >Justin, my IBM PC XT had two monitors in 1985 (one color for the IBM CGA card, one monochrome for the Hercules Graphic Card). You might be surprised at how little IRQ manipulation was required for that setup.

        And you could move your mouse seamlessly from one screen to the other? Even repositioning how the two monitors fitted together.... Hmmmmm........

        1. Irony Deficient

          Re: MULTIPLE SCREENS!!

          Justin, different programs ran on the two monitors, and both of them were started from the DOS command line. There was nothing to “fit together” for repositioning. Your point was the IRQ hell of multiple monitors in 1990, and my point was that that hell didn’t exist even in 1985. Would you please tell me how the Macintosh 512K could support multiple monitors in 1985?

          1. Decade
            Trollface

            Re: MULTIPLE SCREENS!!

            My memory of the era is a bit fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure you could extend the display on a 512K Mac by attaching a display adapter to the CPU. As in, open the thing, pull out the motherboard, and clamp an adapter precariously to the pins that attach the 68000 to the motherboard.

            I'm not sure anybody actually built a display adapter that did that, though. I definitely remember some adapter designed to be clamped on like that, but I'm not 100% sure what it was.

      2. FredT

        Re: MULTIPLE SCREENS!!

        and how few apps actually supported multiple monitors on PCs, prior to Windows 9x.

    3. Decade
      Headmaster

      Re: Strange Article

      AppleTalk was great, and I loved how much faster the Chooser was than the Network Neighborhood, but your anecdotes don't seem to jive with reality.

      I don't know where you got your ImageWriter, but I've never seen one with an AppleTalk card installed. From the documentation, and from the drivers that came with the Macintosh OS, I know they existed, but I've never seen one. Likewise, I never bought the software that would let me share my StyleWriter with the other Macs on the network. That was the domain of businesses that actually had enough money to spend. Also, you did have to worry which serial port your printer was attached to, except Apple labeled them Printer and Modem instead of COM1 and COM2.

      Multiple screens were nicer than PC, but rare. If you wanted multiple screens on a Mac, you needed to get an additional NuBus card. Or, later, a PCI card. Powerbooks could run only one screen at a time, at best mirroring.

      SCSI was nice, but that's what you get when you put workstation technology on a PC. Here are some shortcomings:

      1) It was not hot-plug. All my Macs had a copy of SCSIProbe to activate any device that wasn't there when the computer first booted up.

      2) It used manual addresses. 7 and 0 were SCSI controller and internal hard drive, respectively. But what about the rest? In the words of some forum philosopher, "WHO FUCKING CARES?"

      3) It turned users into amateur electricians, because it required terminators to eliminate reflections.

      4) Apple didn't keep up with storage technology. My Quadra 900 had 5 MB/s SCSI in 1991. My Power Mac G3 had 5 MB/s SCSI in 1998. Ultra Wide SCSI (40 MB/s) existed, but was the domain of expensive workstations and servers.

      In one way, PCs were even worse than you describe. IBM introduced the PS/2 mouse and keyboard connectors. Now, instead of 2 different ports for 2 different peripherals, you had 2 same ports that were not interchangeable. Plug the mouse into the keyboard port and vice versa, and you get an error when you boot up. Macs were so much better; you could plug keyboards and mice into the ADB in any combination you wanted. Keyboards even had ADB ports and power buttons, so you needed only one extra-long ADB cable to put the computer somewhere far away and give you some quiet.

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Regardless of all the geekery, the woman in the '1984' Apple ad wasn't Brigitte Nielsen. That's just, you know, wrong. If you're going to write an article about 'smartarsery' it's probably a good idea to get the basic facts included within it correct.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      > Regardless of all the geekery, the woman in the '1984' Apple ad wasn't Brigitte Nielsen.

      Ok, so who was it then?

  2. danny_0x98

    Every Plane A Fighter Jet

    Okay. 1984. Who was making personal computers for sale. 2014. Who remains? There is a story in the Apple story and if a particular version could use more acknowledgment of luck, well, that's a fair point in any historical naarative.

    From my personal perspective, in February 1984, my younger brother drove up to an Apple reseller in Solvang, California to get the only one available in three counties. He had access to a clean room and he upgraded it to 256k RAM. For the next few months he also had a business doing the same for the engineers at the place he worked.

    As to businesses and general consumers, interest in the Mac was muted at best, and one can easily work out the reasons.

    But among people who were into computers — it was my major in college the decade before, but I was a radio announcer those days — it was front page news. Within 24 months, I had bought my brother's Mac (and he became a 25 year faithful DOS/Windows person) and I had transitioned into work doing advertisement for a savings and loan. Desktop publishing meant my Mac and I foretold BYOD in the 80s when I brought all the typesetting of ads, annual reports, brochures, and internal forms in-house, using my personal Mac. Used it at home to develop MIDI parts for the record my rock band made.

    So, put me down as among those who think something of note did happen 30 years back. The quality of the telling — as with all things — is the responsibility of the author. Though I left the Mac fold in 1996, I returned in 2001 when OS X delivered Unix without window manager fussery.

    And, Bondi Blue under-powered iMacs? Under-powered for the internet-excited general consumer of 1998? No. And a shape and color that said "no fiddly cables" and "I'm fun for the life outside of work?" Yes. Besides, Rin-Tin-Tin has been billed as the dog that saved Hollywood. Clearly the animal's thespian range was beside the point. The iMac turned around Apple's cratering fortunes and as far as I can recall every other computer maker in similar straits went under with barely a trace.

    1. Robert Sneddon

      Survivors

      "Okay. 1984. Who was making personal computers for sale. 2014. Who remains?"

      HP, Fujitsu, Toshiba, Sony, Panasonic among others. There was a company called Apple Computer around back then but it doesn't exist any more since they stopped concentrating on producing computers and became a media distribution hub (iTunes).

  3. MD Rackham

    Mouse Hindsight

    I certainly don't care to defend the original Apple mouse, but another example of revisionism is the idea that "journalists" of the time were aghast at how bad it was. This was 1984. Most "journalists" had never seen a mouse, let alone used enough to be critical of a specific implementation.

    The introduction of the Mac caused everyone else to go out and start building mice, even if you couldn't really do anything with them. Fortunately, those other people learned from Apple's original design mistakes (sharp corners, ouch!).

    Yes, the original MS mouse shipped about 6 months before the Mac 128K--remember that MS had Macs before the public did--but few sold as there wasn't much use for a mouse in command line MS-DOS. And the design was nearly as bad as Apple's.

    (I'd claim that the original iMac "hockey puck" mouse was an even worse design. No sharp corners, but you couldn't figure out which way was "up" so were always mousing at a diagonal.)

  4. FredT

    Good troll . . .

    if one wants to visits the lowlights of the 30 years, not the highlights.

    The 128K was a joke when it came out, but 1986's 1MB Mac Plus was a serious tool for anyone. Add in the Mac's growing base of first-class software -- the recognizable antecedents of all the stuff we use today -- PhotoShop, Excel, Word, PageMaker, HyperCard, PowerPoint, etc and Apple's excellent, shareable LaserWriter series, and you've got productivity streets ahead of MS-DOS and Windows v1~3 (LOL).

    Then the next year Apple dropped the bomb on PCs with the Mac II. This machine was so awesome I actually saved money for 2 years to buy one (as a poor college student), and the IIcx I got in 1989 served me very, very well while Atari, Microsoft, and Amiga bumbled their way through the early 1990s.

    Then came Apple's standout "Powerbook" line, which got incrementally even better right though 2000's Powerbook G4. As is the state today, you couldn't go wrong then buying a high-end Apple laptop vs. the Windows competition, since Windows sucks so. Sucked on laptops then too, of course.

    (While not the sharpest knife in the drawer, Amelio did what had to be done to pull Apple out of its mid-1990s tailspin.)

    Apple wasn't first to the PMP party, just as it wasn't first to the PC, GUI (Xerox Star came out in 1981), office laser printer (HP LaserJet, 1983), tablet, or smartphone markets.

    But prior to the iPod, you could have a pocketable PMP or one that held more than 1 CD of songs, not both. Xerox was making personal workstations not PCs. For the LaserWriter, Apple had the balls and vision to put in a CPU to render PostScript. The LaserJet was just a glorified LPR until the mid-1980s, with piss-poor font options and very limited ability to render in-page graphics, and no LAN ability, all things 1985's LaserWriter had solved out of the gate.

    But it's not that Apple's been so hot these 30 years, for every success they've had a massive fail.

    They were just able to innovate a bit faster than everyone else -- albeit occasionally, but to big effect, given how important information technology is to our daily lives.

  5. sisk

    Personally I still think putting a disk in the original iPod was a mistake. Marketing saved the day though. If J. Random Musiclover had known that you can't realistically expect a hard drive to survive for long when it's reading while strapped to the arm of a jogger the things would never have caught on, but Apple managed to keep that fact out of public knowledge somehow.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I did not read the article

    Well, not all of it. Sorry Alistair, I just find your prose a bit monotonous and long-winded (it is said in the spirit of constructive criticism, no offence intended).

    However, I can hopefully answer your question about the commandments: In a nutshell, from the point of view of Abrahamic religions, the story is that there is (exactly one) God who told this bloke called Noah to follow seven precepts. Now, because (so the story goes) none of us humans would be here if it wasn't for this Noah lad being quite the craftsman and a passable sailor, this one God considers that the least we could do is obey those same "commandments", and if he catches you being nasty you're toast.

    Some time latter another bloke, this one called Abraham (Bram between mates) ill-advisedly went up a hill one mid-summer afternoon and came back down with a couple of tablets which he either scrawled up himself during a heat-stroke and dehydration induced delirious fit or he got given by (the one) God, depending on whose story you believe. Either way, 70% of the stuff written on those tablets is what had already been said to Noah some years prior, the difference being that anything which hadn't been mentioned before applied only to Bram's own tribe rather than the whole of humanity. Afterwards, other people from the tribe kept adding more and more rules, bit like Wikipedia administrators, to bring the total up to 613 or thereabouts, but most of those are not really so important and can be safely ignored unless you get on the wrong side of an admin. Chances are that the (exactly one) Jimbo is not going to punish you for it though, and even then, he's only going to be bothered if you're a member of the tribe to start with, otherwise he doesn't really care.

    Anyhow, that's more or less how I remember it. I might have got a few details wrong. HTH.

    1. Alistair Dabbs

      Re: I did not read the article

      *I'm* long-winded?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I did not read the article

        > *I'm* long-winded?

        Fair enough, and at least you get paid for it. :)

    2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: I did not read the article

      "Some time latter another bloke, this one called Abraham (Bram between mates) ill-advisedly went up a hill one mid-summer afternoon and came back down with a couple of tablets"

      Moses, shirley?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I did not read the article

        > Moses, shirley?

        Could have been Moshe actually. To be honest, I wasn't there, I just heard the story from mates down the pub.

        And please don't call me Surely.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    iPhone was a revolution

    I was too young at the time for the Mac to have an impact on my life but it's hard to overstate the significance of the iPhone in my mind.

    Since around ~2004 I was sure that phones would take over music, camera, and web browsing duties and I didn't understand why it wasn't happening faster and better. Phones with 3.5mm audio connectors were like hen's teeth. At one point I ended up importing a ROKR E2, which was a disaster of a phone. Phones that didn't have absolute garbage photo quality were also hard to find. I bent over backwards to get a Sony K750i which was one of the first 2 megapixel phones and was said to take "crystal clear" photos. I have a couple hundred photos that say otherwise. And I also had an HTC Windows Phone at one point (the Faraday?) that was supposed to be able to render "real" web pages but did so to the phone's viewport, which was usually beyond pointless to try to read or operate.

    Then came the iPhone, which with one fell swoop seemed to sort out the whole situation. Standard 3.5mm audio connector with MP3 software that let you quickly browse through gigabytes of music? Check. Best camera available in a phone without having to import a Nokia N95 from Hong Kong or somewhere, plus software that let you quickly browse through hundreds/thousands of photos? Check. Internet browser that rendered webpages to a normal size viewport and let you zoom by pinching? Check.

    Compared to all the phones that came before the iPhone and what abject failures they were at any of these things, the iPhone is nothing short of astonishing and it's a shame that some people might never realize that, or might forget it.

  8. Shugyosha

    Just on the minature HDD thing...

    You might want to take a look at the Nokia N91. I had one of these, it was a great phone with an 8GB HDD in it and fantastic sound quality. So not only were the small form factor HDDs not exclusive to Apple, but there was a company who was also using them in phones. It was not that big a phone, for the time.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Megaphone

    Ballmer was right...

    ... and Apple dropped the price of the original iPhone..

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