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An ex-Microsoft executive plans to establish a chain of retail outlets serving premium marijuana across the US, both to get rich and - apparently - to undermine drugs traffickers. James Shively is reported to buying up medical marijuana dispensaries in the states of Washington and Colorado and boasted the business will produce …


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  1. Tom 7 Silver badge

    I'm not sure what the rules will be

    but given that even in my 'rastafarians are non-smokers' phase I couldn't smoke a whole plant in a year I'd bet there's not a lot of profit to be made from anyone with a window.

    Which is one of the ideas behind legalisation - take away the profit motive and you take away the crime.

    1. Graham Dawson

      Re: I'm not sure what the rules will be

      And that's why everyone grows their own tomatoes.

      OH WAIT

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A national brand?

    Won't they fall under interstate commerce and have the feds on their arse?

  3. Frankee Llonnygog


    The war on drugs hasn't worked. Legalise, regulate, and - chill!

    More mellowness among elected representatives can't do any harm

  4. Parax

    Accepting Cookies

    Hash Prompt, (Pass the Dutchie/Kouchie)

    and that's it....

    So who knew drug culture and PC's didn't have many cross over references.

  5. Craig 28

    Not quite pot but...

    If you went on a pub crawl dressed as Satan would that be Hellbender?

  6. Crisp Silver badge
    IT Angle

    Has anyone stopped to think of the consequences of this to the IT industry?

    We're going to have bleary eyed developers wandering around looking for coffee and snack food. They'll sit about all day at their desks producing quirky random code...

    Hang on, are we sure that developers aren't on pot already?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Has anyone stopped to think of the consequences of this to the IT industry?

      We're going to have bleary eyed developers wandering around looking for coffee and snack food. They'll sit about all day at their desks producing quirky random code...

      Hang on, are we sure that developers aren't on pot already?

      Those are the ones who can't tell their Sativa from their Indica. ;)

  7. Alien Doctor 1.1

    It's got to be..


  8. Roger Greenwood


    See Hash

  9. Justin Stringfellow
    Thumb Up


    Can't believe someone hasn't suggested "winblow".

  10. niceshirt_fenix

    Windows of Perception

    New Toke-nology

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I'd smoke anything that was called ...

    "Microsoft This-Is-What-We-Were-On-When-We-Designed-Win-8"

    The advertising slogan could be "Every bit as effective as a club round the head" :)

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I don't think so...

    I thought we all agreed by now smoking is bad for you. I can understand people using weed for medical purposes, where the herb is a lot less harmful to ones health than some of the farmaceutical grade pain medication. But smoke vs. not smoke for a healthy individual ? I don't think so.

    If it's a matter of personal choice, it's debatable. But AFAIK smoking regular cigarettes is still not illegal. No I can somewhat follow that reasoning. One could even argue alcohol is more harmful.

    But how long will it take before the first class action suit arguing the seller of the smokes did not sufficiently inform the user of the risks involved in smoking pot ?

    I can't help thinking that this is helped along by the tobacco lobby in the hope it will somehow laud a new era of tolerance for regular smoking producs.

    Sommething about this smells really bad.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I don't think so...

      I generally eat weed, or bake it into cakes or something, beause somking anything, esp organic material is pretty silly. Heating any organic material up will cause all sorts of chemical reactions.

      And then from the random chemicals, inhale in to the lungs ??? Madness.

      Even frying food is bordering on unsensible really.

      But I eat weed sometimes for fun, and sometimes as a healthy alternative to NSAIDS (pain killers like ibruprohen, voltaren).

      I think the drug companies as much as anyone want weed illegal, see reasons above.

      I know a clinical psychologist who had some evidence for weed causing mental illness, cos I have acces to sci papers I looked it up, and swed her the maths (which meant it was unsubstantiated). She actually became annoyed (prob cos her maths is crap level like most peoples), but the paper just looked like a smear on weed to me.

      1. MonkeyCee Silver badge

        Re: I don't think so...

        Oh lordy, I do love going through the stats on any of those "pot causes x" papers. Becasue as you rightly point out, either their math is waaay off, or the correlations are pretty weak. And never any causation either :)

        The number of psych and social studies students who just don't seem to get statistics is mind boggling. All the "science" in these areas is based of data that is statistical in nature. The theories and philosophies are all nice, but there seems to be a strong desire to make the data fit the theory, rather than devolop theories to explain the data.

        My favorite from a few years back was the headline grabbing "Pot makes you 3 times as likely to get schizophrenia" which was usually expressed as 300% increase in risk (since journo's hate stats even more) when the actual data was that schizophrenia in the general population was 0.9 per 100k, heavy pot smoking and schizophrenia was 2.6 per 100k. All well and good, apart from the small fact that the same study found that alchol abuse and schizophrenia where roughly 1000 per 100k, and heavy tobacco use and schizophrenia roughly 2500 per 100k. No mention of smoking or drinking being much more likely to "cause" schizophrenia*.

        TL:DR - Study shows weak correlation between mental illness and pot use, strong correlation between alchohol or tobacco use and mental illness. Media only reports on pot aspect.

        * Should also be noted that the study as published was only looking at correlations, and the causation attributions seems to only have been added by non scientists. Correlation is not causation, unless the result backs up your worldview :)

        1. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge

          Re: I don't think so...

          Pot studies, in the US, legally all require approval of the federal government, although the various states are pushing back. Do you actually think anything that did not have a well-written paragraph or two in it toeing the party line would actually make it into circulation? I read more than a few papers that looked as though a censor had been turned loose on the closing paragraphs after not having figured out what the rest of the paper actually said.

  13. Suburban Inmate

    Blueberry Skunk of Derp?

    Microsoft "Tokin' Ring Networking" schmoozathons?

    For MS's MS patients... I wonder will this enabling technology be supplied with the OS? Give you something to do during installation and patching.

    Overall I'm glad someone a little less evil (compared to monsanto, arms corporations, big pharma etc) is grabbing this. It was never going to be some dippy hippy utokia, but as long as people have the option to homegrow, then there's no harm in having a corporate option. People can weigh up the pros and cons themselves.

    I fully expect old beardy Branson to follow suit, too, given his public support.

    1. Suburban Inmate

      Oh yeah, it's an ex MS bloke, not MS themselves... Another coffee for me, but the point about corporate brands and production stands.

  14. Chris Hainey

    The only real option should be...

    404 brand

    I couldn't find my own arse with an atlas after a few blasts

    flame for, well... how else are you going to light up?

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    'Crash & Burn'

  16. xeroks

    Theraputic purposes

    I'm sure one of the many-cited reasons for using cannabis was that it eases the symptoms of M.S.

    I'm sure I can get a strangulated witticism out of that if I really try hard. Hang on a couple of minutes...

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  18. Risky

    Not Just MicroWeed?

    How many of these would I need to convince myslef that someone designed the Notes client GUI on purpose?

  19. Faye B


    Surely it should be HASH Tag. So you can blow TOKEn rings from your unix pipe.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I thought it was de criminalised in the uk

    Did'nt they make it class C or something, effectively legal ?

    1. Piro

      Re: I thought it was de criminalised in the uk

      That was ages ago. It got bumped back up to B.

      1. hplasm Silver badge

        Re: I thought it was de criminalised in the uk

        Nah- they just changed the subnet mask.

  21. Mr. Fatuous

    Poor punnage ahead

    Winblows mighty eighth

  22. Jamie Jones Silver badge
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    Only on The Reg can you be reading an article about quantum entanglement one minute, followed by an article on cigar spliffs!

    1. Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ahhhhh

      Welcome to The Internet.

      Please check your coat and your common sense.

  23. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    One advantage of this that anti-corporates might be missing is that someone who has a vested interest in keeping the stuff legal with a high profit margin and has the wealth and national platform to back it up is going to be a powerful ally in the fight for legalization and the protection of this status where it currently exists.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Probably, although there's a risk they're try to advocate new laws to give themselves a monopoly while they're at it. I suppose that's still better than being illegal though.

  24. shoesday

    All I could think of

    System Error 420

    You are running low on memory :-)

    1. Suburban Inmate

      I just had a look at the list and...

      420 Enhance Your Calm

      There's a good few in the list that seem quite apt, e.g. 423 [couch] Locked

  25. Ironclad

    I'm going with....

    Powerjoint ?

    More importantly the marketing must be a job for Steve Bong.

  26. Bgfreeman

    Call it

    Windows....oh, a squirrel.

  27. plrndl

    Has anyone registered "Mary Jane" yet?

  28. Joefish

    You're all trying too hard.

    It would be 'Microsoft Cannabis'.

  29. Robert Helpmann?? Silver badge


    Well, there is the X-Box One, why not Service Pack One? It's pretty lame, but has a smoking reference, so it would be a good fit for an MS brand.

  30. Arachnoid

    Quantum entanglement

    No Officer Im smoking a ghost image left over from my friends spliff

  31. Al fazed

    It has to be System Restore

    There's nothing else for it if it's truelly going to be the Cognac of the THC's.

  32. Al fazed

    or How about

    Microsoft Dope !

    Windows THC

    MS Smoking Tablet

    Microsofts Memory Error

    MS Bootstrap

    Internext Explorer

    Visuals Studio



  33. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Pot Cigar? Bill Clinton approves!

    "It tastes good!"

  34. Euripides Pants Silver badge

    Microsoft themed pot


  35. Evil_Dave83

    Blow ME


  36. C. P. Cosgrove

    How's about ?

    Soul Windows . . .

  37. xpusostomos


    Ask Balmer what to call it. I reckon he ingests an awful lot more pot than any of us, judging by his behavior.

  38. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    He can't possibly be ex-Microsoft

    He can't possibly be ex-Microsoft. Since when would a Microsoft employee invent something of their own? Oh, but wait! It was already established in the market place, he came along, stole the product from under everyone's nose, rebadged it via an arm's length sponsorship deal and then licensed it as a key component of someone else's product. Nope, I was wrong. That's Microsoft through and through. Maybe call it 3Edom...?

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