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UK Apple fans are suing Google for tracking them online against their will over a five-month period. iThing owners who used the Safari browser between September 2011 and February 2012 allege that Google bypassed the web browser's security settings to plant a temporary cookie that skimmed information from them to personalise …

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Anonymous Coward

FUD

Have you even read google's privacy policy?

They make money serving adverts that are relevant to a person that matches a certain UUID basically.

They can't sell your details to anyone. They can offer to serve adverts to you that appeal to certain advertisers.

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Re: FUD

I can't be asked to re-read the whole thing, but the containment conditions for your information are exceptionally weak. As long as you have any sort of business relation with Google, the terms allow them to share your information. Thus, if you supply toilet paper to Google it's enough.

There is, however, a much more dangerous aspect which Google is skirting. Under UK as well as EU data protection laws, accessing "sensitive" information about you (i.e. what medicine you look up, or which financial service you use for, say, debt management) requires EXPLICIT permission from the user (let me spell that out for you: Google needs to ask your permission in a separate, isolated statement, not embedded in light grey 6 point on white font somewhere down in the ToS). As far as I know, it has not done so for the majority of its current users in Europe which seems to put them in breach - yet again.

They really seem to consider fines just the cost of doing business, and given what the FTC fined them you cannot really blame them for having that opinion. I call that a Wall Street spillover - after all, that's the attitude that gave us global economic crisis III.

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Oxymorons

Upset about tracking and advertising? Lets start a facebook group for that...

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Re: Oxymorons

> "Upset about tracking and advertising? Lets start a facebook group for that..."

Brilliant!

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Re: Oxymorons

The Facebook group was set up because Olswang wanted a medium people are familiar with - the issues with this have been pointed out and an independent web site will be available towards the end of the week.

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The Cult only following His Jobsness' teachings

After all, is it easier to change over to better software or sue people...?

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Anonymous Coward

My iphone is tracking my every movement...

The Location Tracking icon appears in the upper right of my iPhone's screen even though *all* individual apps have Location Services disabled.

*They* (the 'Them-They' They with the capital 'T') are tracking me.

So I'll have to spend the evening driving around to places that do not interest me in the slightest, to throw Them off the track.

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Re: My iphone is tracking my every movement...

"The Location Tracking icon appears in the upper right of my iPhone's screen even though *all* individual apps have Location Services disabled.

*They* (the 'Them-They' They with the capital 'T') are tracking me.

So I'll have to spend the evening driving around to places that do not interest me in the slightest, to throw Them off the track."

Best way. Throw them nonsense.

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Re: My iphone is tracking my every movement...

Exactly, disguise the signal with random noise.

For FF users - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/trackmenot/

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Anonymous Coward

One the one hand, it's a storm in a teacup

OTOH, do bear in mind that while there's no a lot we can do to stop our government snooping on us, Google is a different matter (and unlike a government, not as above the law as they might believe they are).

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WTF?

Get A Grip People

People really need to chill out. So what if someone tracked the crap you are looking at. Unless your an agent you really dont need to worry, and if you are an agent chances are you are working through some proxy or not even using a device like this.

Get a grip people!

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Consequence

"engagements, presents and holidays were destroyed when partners looked at their computers and saw display ads based on sites previously visited"

Whiners! Real men do the online shopping from work, and wouldn't dream of looking on their partners iThingy

On an unrelated note, why does my popular! webmail! provider! serve me up adverts for Asian dating and a certain tubular video sharing site serve me adverts for mature dating? It makes no sense - I've only been browsing latex bdsm sites.

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Irony

So, I see the irony of creating a Facebook page bitching about being tracked is completely lost on the fanbois.

Quite funny that is.

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Was not a "gaffe" by Google

"It took a Stanford researcher to spot the cookie planting gaffe by Google."

Err no it was not a gaffe. The code was specifically designed to submit a page to Google, fooling Safari into thinking the user had submitted the page, thus bypassing the "only allow cookies from sites I visit" security setting. There was absolutely no gaffe at all, Google knew exactly what they were doing. Get it right, and perhaps the pro-Google, anti-Apple bias should be toned down a bit too?

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Stop

Just...

...make an entry in your hosts file:

*google*<tab>127.0.0.1

Problem solved. Worked for me for years. I use startpage.com for all my searches, as it doesn't track you, and even includes an online proxy for viewing those slightly dodgy pages via a proxy.

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Security Issue?

"It could mean for many users that surprises such as engagements, presents and holidays were destroyed when partners looked at their computers and saw display ads based on sites previously visited. There are many examples of the inappropriate consequences of such intrusion"

would this only happen if they were using the same account and therefore password sharing?

hmmm

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Re: Security Issue?

Password? What password? Why do we need a password on our home FAMILY computer that only we use?

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Anonymous Coward

Re: Security Issue?

"Why do we need a password on our home FAMILY computer that only we use?"

Really?

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Re: Security Issue?

iThingys don't have multiple accounts, so the argument is somewhat moot from the start.

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Re: Security Issue?

would this only happen if they were using the same account and therefore password sharing?

I dont know a huge number of people who have password management policies established for their families use of their home IT assets, but you make a good point.

Unfortunately, I dont think the cool iShiny has the ability to set up multiple users so it is only one account - password sharing is broadly irrelevant (assuming it has been configured to use a password in the first place).

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Dear Appletards

Nothing is free on this planet. Even your death will cost your next of kin a bomb. If you don't want Google trying to make a living off supplying products and services to you then stop using all google products FFS.

Maybe you could try Bing?!

Queue maniacal evil laugh muhahahahahaaaaaa

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Re: Dear Appletards

The problem with that is you really can't avoid Google's ad-pushing services (and Google Analytics) on 3rd party web pages. These are (or can be) used to collect profiles as well (IPs which Analytics collects and keeps are as good as cookies in most cases, or actually better in that they are globally unique identifiers at a given point in time).

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Im sure the tracked habits of perving over girls on facebook and looking at porn are of no use to anybody.

I think people want to feel important enough that they think people actually give a shit what they have been looking at

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browsing habits

You may think no one gives a shit what you have been looking at, but people will pay good money for that information so they must actually give a shit.

The fact you are selling it for a lot less than other people are selling it on is a totally different matter. The fact is that you are the only person losing out on the deal.

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Anonymous Coward

"It could mean for many users that surprises such as engagements, presents and holidays were destroyed when partners looked at their computers and saw display ads based on sites previously visited. There are many examples of the inappropriate consequences of such intrusion."

Glad they could come up with an excuse they could use in front of their wives. They probably won't be served with adverts for large plugs but may wonder why the advert for the Lesbian Advice Line pops up so regularly.

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Anonymous Coward

Err...

Where is Eadon telling us how great Google are and how MS are all bastards that invade your privacy and etc. etc...

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Trollface

Forgive the irony

But the inference is that people browsing pr0n will in turn be the recipient of pr0n ads therefore ruining their lives.

Sounds like win/win to me.

Trollface because - yeah.

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Screwed?

They paid to be screwed by Apple and are upset because Google slipped one in there. I'm not arguing that they shouldn't prosecute, but is it really news that some Brits are doing what some Yanks did?

What's next? Frontpage news that Cameron stubs his toe just hours after Obama?

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