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Blighty's internet providers have been asked to voluntarily block another three sites accused of piracy by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI). The BPI, which represents major UK record companies, has asked the ISPs to stop people accessing Fenopy, Kickass Torrents and H33T. “Like The Pirate Bay, these websites are …

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One big floor already:

"do you know downloading music is illegal?"

Downloading music isn't illegal, just like using peer to peer and file sharing isn't illegal and has many legitimate uses such as distributing open source software etc. Downloading copyrighted works is illegal, but again that also depends what country you reside in.

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true - but when something is used 99.9 % for something illegal it becomes a mute point

When music is downloded legally the non I.T. populace dont even realise theyve 'downloded'

They think they've "put it in my itunes - innit"

Also who the hell distrubtes open source software in torrnts? Anyone who does is surely just doing it to a see a torrent legally used rather than for any sensible reason, eg lower hosting costs.

Thats what sourceforge is for.

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> who the hell distrubtes open source software in torrnts?

Fedora

Debian

Those were the first two I checked.

> rather than for any sensible reason, eg lower hosting costs.

It's nice to see someone with true omniscience. Thank you for showing us what the above projects are actually thinking.

Vic.

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lemme guess, they are unix variants?

what is it with those guys? always sticking their OS's into weird places like bootable usb sticks and torrents

what stops other malicious idiots from setting up pretend torrents with bad stuff in?

You dont see any other open source peopl doing that like open office or GIMP

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> lemme guess, they are unix variants?

No. They are Linux distributions.

> what is it with those guys? always sticking their OS's into weird places

Because they are useful.

> what stops other malicious idiots from setting up pretend torrents with bad stuff in?

Cryptography. All downloads are verifiable (and, by default, signatures are checked).

> You dont see any other open source peopl doing that like open office or GIMP

You do know that both Fedora and Debian are Free Software, right?

Vic.

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3/10, try harder

worst troll in a while, but you at least made me reply

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>No. They are Linux distributions.<

isnt that the same thing?

>Because they are useful.<

'spose , but it seems to me linux fans are more obsessed with installing the OS not using it . fine if thats what you enjoy i guess (get ready with your downvotes peeps!)

>Cryptography.<

ok , good answer that solves that problem

>You do know that both Fedora and Debian are Free Software, right?<

yes indeed , my point is that *other* free software is not primarily distributed in torrents

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@mark 63, Fedora and Debian are probably not *primarily* distributed in torrents either, there are lots of traditional ftp/http mirrors. And torrent download is an option for other things too e.g. libreoffice. But it's only worth the hassle to set this up for something which is frequently downloaded and fairly large.

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>>No. They are Linux distributions.<

> isnt that the same thing?

No.

> it seems to me linux fans are more obsessed with installing the OS not using it

You appear not to have met any.

There is plenty of traffic on the Web about installing Linux because that is what newcomers are scared of.

Once it comes to using it - well, it's all pretty straightforward and people just get on with it.

> my point is that *other* free software is not primarily distributed in torrents

So other Free Software that is an order of magnitude smaller than a full distro doesn't use torrents, whereas gert lumps of code several gigabytes wide do. Hmmm. Wonder if there's a connection in there somewhere...

Vic.

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I think that...

... they'd be better off spending their monies on stopping the million and one TPB mirrors out there.

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Why?

No one can get to TBP since thy blocked it.

Ooops :-)

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masses ruining it for the masses

anyway, it's only the masses of idiots who like to listen to (and by extension illegally download) rhianna, gaga and the like that are causing all the problems. if people actually thought about what music they like and actually explored stuff beyond the mainstream, they would find that a lot of independent and non-signed stuff is available perfectly legitimately for free anyway. it's the age-old problem - most people are fucking dumb and like whatever they are told they should like. i'm totally for a mass human depopulation exersize based on music taste.

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Whack a mole, whack a mole, whack a mole..........whack a mole, whack a mole, whack a mooooole.

Good luck BPI (not)

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Is it just me

who just keeps seeing their name as the British Pornographic Industry.

Which would be a *much* more useful trade association.

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That's part of the problem these days, half the acts out there now look good and would make good p0rn but they cant sing for sh*t, and they other half are too young for p0rn.

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Block patent trolls instead

As Patent trolls do far more damage to society and technological innovation than any piracy it would be better for society in general if access to their websites were blocked instead.

i.e :-

- Microsoft

- Apple

- Oracle (patent trolls and cancerous leeches)

- Any reference to Paul Alan (possibly the king of trolls)

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"We do not currently block access to any website without a Court Order requiring us to do so."

A bloody good job too! Last thing we need is to hand that sort of power over to the corps, we really would need a whole new separate internet for them and us!

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Not to give them ideas here...

But wouldn't it just make more sense to block things like openbittorrent and publicbt rather than the hosting repositories?

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Futile

Blocking the website of TPB does nothing. They run no trackers nor do they host anything. It's just a portal and search engine.

There are already dozens of other sites mirroring the TPB portal and search engine and you can't win the arms race of blocking them all. Once you have the magnet link of the torrent you seek, only massive national firewalling will block you from downloading the data it refers to.

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I download films

But only Torrentino films.

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the sky is rising apparently

fao mark 63

have a read of this, would you? when you have finished come back and tell us what you have learnt. Cheers ears.

http://www.techdirt.com/skyisrising/

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Is there any way we could perhaps convince the major ISP's to block access to the BPI website and to end their access to the internet.

We could perhaps start a petition saying.

“these peopel are profiting legally from distributing music that isn’t theirs, with permission and by paying a penny to the musicians & writers who created it,"

"It is plain wrong."

"The existence of this group damages the growth of Britain’s burgeoning digital music sector. We have therefore asked Britain’s six biggest ISPs to block access to the BPI"

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We do not currently block ... without a Court Order

So they've stopped using the IWF blacklist then?

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