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Last week, Reg reader movie buffs voted Ernst Stavro Blofeld as the vilest Bond villain - and the sinister cat-stroking nutter certainly deserves the title. Donald Pleasence as Blofeld, with his white cat Kill Bond and bring me some Whiskas, now! Blofeld first popped up in From Russia with Love and Thunderball, although …

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      1. Alan 6

        Re: ????

        Maybe I was down-voted for spelling Brosnan's name wrong?

        1. James Pickett
          Happy

          Re: ????

          "Maybe I was down-voted for spelling Brosnan's name wrong?"

          You didn't just spell it wrong, you spelt another actor!

    1. Fred Flintstone Gold badge

      Moore [..] was let down by making the films in an era of terrible fashion

      That alone was worth an upvote, thanks :)

    2. Ken 16 Silver badge

      I assume there'll be a follow on poll for best Bond film?

      OHMSS is my personal favourite, which influences my choice of Bond, Casino Royale (the Craig one, not the Niven/Allen one) my second choice, probably because both stay pretty close to the books and don't go nuts on the special effects and From Russia With Love, my third.

      Get me started on the worst three...

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    OUTRAGE!

    No Bob Holness, sure he was radio bond, but surely a radio story is just a movie for blind people.

    1. Geoff Campbell Silver badge
      Boffin

      Re: OUTRAGE!

      Damn, you beat me too it. So I shall just have to out-nerd you and add Barry Nelson; Michael Jayston; and Toby Stephens to the outrage list.

      (No, I have no idea who they are, either. Ain't Wikipedia great?)

      GJC

      1. Alan 6

        Re: OUTRAGE!

        Toby Stephens played Gustav Graves in Die Another Day and has voiced Bond in some radio plays as well

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Lazenby Fan Club.com

    Vote early and vote often!

  3. Bodhi

    Dalton for me, as has been mentioned, probably closest to the original books, and The Living Daylights will always remain my personal favourite. Best theme tune, best car, best storyline imo. I generally tend to dismiss the Dalton haters as not really knowing what they are talking about.

    After that it would have to be Connery, then Craig. I try to forget the Moore ever played Bond. Just so worng...

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Missing in action...

    ...Barry Nelson in the 1954 version of Casino Royale and David Niven in the 1967 version of Casino Royale.

  5. Irongut

    there can be only one

    Contrary to popular belief, Bond is a Scotsman so there can be only one choice.

    1. Tom 13

      Re: there can be only one

      That's not only a different actor, it's a different genre!

    2. EddieD
      Coat

      Re: there can be only one

      Bond as a Scotsman was retconned into the canon by Fleming after he saw Connery in Dr No - before that, Bond's nationality was not mentioned.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Where's the mighty Bob Holness?

    On radio only, I grant you, but come on. Big up Bob Holness. He was the original.

    I'd vote for him if only because, I'm told, when he didn't get the job for the film he said, 'So which c**t got it.'

    Nice work Bob. Gone but not forgotten.

  7. Don Jefe
    Alert

    Books & Craig

    When they first announced that Daniel Craig was going to be the new Bond I was mortified. After seeing the films though I think he best fits the original character described in the books.

    Connery is obviously badass and the tastes of the time surely had an impact - nobody can take hits like he did & without showing pain. Craig shows his pain & is also much more like the mean son of a bitch Fleming wrote. In the Connery time being a total mobster (which is how the Bond character is written) wasn't shown much on film so maybe its not his fault. We'll never know though...

  8. QuinnDexter

    Hmmm

    The recent Bond movies are the betters ones, IMHO. Gritty and animalisitc type Bond - the scene in Casino Royal when he's tied to the chair and being tickled with the rope can't exactly be compared with the laser beam closing in on his nads in Goldfinger, but shows how the characters have changed over the years along with expectation of the audience. Connery's Bond is the most agressive of the rest of the pack, but in comparison with Craig he's still cool, a measured quick thinking officer and deals with it as such. Craig's Bond is an ex-SAS hardnut who becomes a caged tiger. I've not read the books yet but JimmyPage above suggests this is what Bond should be.

    I saw Roger Moore first cos that's the generation I'm from. Live and Let Die, For Your Eyes Only and Diamonds are forever were almost wiped from my memory when I watched Goldfinger and then Dr No and saw the cool viciousness of Connery.

    1. Ken 16 Silver badge

      Re: Hmmm

      Although it's that scene with Goldfinger controlling the industrial laser which comes to my mind whenever an ad for laser hair removal appears on TV...

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hmmm

        Live and Let Die was a good Bond film (unless the blaxploitation angle gets you), but after that the Moore Bond films went too far overboard into campiness.

    2. Jolyon Smith

      Re: Hmmm

      Um, Diamonds Forever is a Connery outing... just saying

  9. Captain TickTock
    Headmaster

    You missed the last Blofeld

    Dispatched in For Your eyes Only, played by John Hollis.

    Bond drops him down an industrial chimney

    http://www.jamesbondwiki.com/page/For+Your+Eyes+Only

  10. Andrew James

    I've always liked Connery but disliked Moore. As most Connery bond fans seem to do.

    I was against the casting of Daniel Craig right up untilbI saw Casino Royale trailers and realised how much of a fantastic job he does.

    Comparing across decades is difficult. But for me, I think Craig just takes top spot over Connery. He actually looks like someone tough enough for the stunts bond does.

    I voted Brosnan though, because the films were a bit pants but as a Bond he was really good.

  11. Steven Roper

    I voted for Moore

    I grant that Connery was certainly the better actor, but to my mind James Bond is, first and formemost, an utter sleaze, a slimeball who worms his way into bed with every woman in the story - and IMO it was Moore who carried the "sleazebag" style off better. He really did come across as utter slime. Connery's suave, sophisticated Bond came off as seeming too "clean-cut" and genteel for what the character was supposed to be, which to my perception jarred with the "slipperiness" I expected from Bond.

    As to Craig and Brosnan, they simply came off as common garden "action hero" types and while their performances were enjoyable, there was nothing to distinguish them from other action movies of the time, like Die Hard or the Bourne movies.

  12. LPF
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    Its depends on your age..

    If you were an adult in the 60's its connery.

    70's Moore

    after that pure rubbish until brosnan, craig is ok, but seriously blonde ?? dude getting metrasexual!

    I have to say its Moore for me, for gods sake a Lotus that turns into an sodding submarine and has surface to air misslies , bollocks to all other gadgets! Plus the otty he nailed tops all others bar non. I would have crawled over 20 miles of broken glass to sweat in Jane Seymores shadow!

    1. Ken 16 Silver badge

      Re: Its depends on your age..

      Back in the 70's I was watching the old ones on TV before I got to see new ones in the Cinema.

    2. Captain Hogwash
      Happy

      Re: to sweat in Jane Seymores shadow

      I painted her tennis court in 1986 and got pretty sweaty doing it.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Its depends on your age..

      Don't mean to be a pedent but I think you'll find that's not right. Me, born 1971. Strictly Connery. My friends too, same age group.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Its depends on your age..

      "... I would have crawled over 20 miles of broken glass to sweat in Jane Seymores shadow!..."

      I see that one of my favourite compliments from yesteryear has been given the 'MTV treatment' and cleaned up for public broadcast. The version we used, back in my lecherous 'yoof' was:

      "I'd crawl through broken glass to stick flags in her shit!"

  13. kdh0009
    Happy

    Connery. But don't underestimate Lazenby's contribution...

    George Lazenby - sadly forever the scapegoat for 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' which doesn't rank too highly on many people's favourite Bond film lists.

    OHMSS was a big step change from the films the public had become used to under Connery's reign, and was probably a bit commercially risky because of that. Had Connery played that part would it have been better received? I highly doubt it, and Connery's reputation as the best would also have taken a beating.

  14. bill 36
    Happy

    Its no contest

    Pushy Galore, I musht be dreaming

    Classic

  15. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

    I don't think any of them are bad. Although there have been some pretty shocking films. I've not seen 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' in 20-odd years, so can't remember if it was Lazenby's crap acting, or a rubbish script. The thing is he does really well at the end of the film, which suggests he can act, but my memory's not clear enough to say.

    Roger Moore stayed on too long. Some of his early films are great. He was a harder character at the beginning. But by 'View to a Kill' he can't even run up a half flight of stairs, without getting out of breath. That was sad to see. But if you can dismiss those from polluting your mind, his earlier films are good.

    I voted for Connery. If I'd seen Skyfall, and it was good, I might have changed to Craig. The problem is Question of Sport. Quantum of Solace' was a right old dog's breakfast, and detracted from the loveliness of 'Casino Royale'.

    Connery was just so iconic. But also Bond was so amazing in the 60s. Almost nobody had been on a 747, in the 60s, so even airports were cool. And it was a new kind of film. I suspect you have to have been there to get the full effect (we're all a lot richer than we used to be back then). Once you've done 20 flights in a year on business, hotels and airports suddenly lose all their charm, and happy association with holidays...

    Poor Dalton suffered from crap-film-itis. Although 'License to Kill' was OK. I liked him a lot. I was no fan of Brosnan, until his last film - but I'm not sure if that was the films, or him.

  16. Pooka

    I was torn between Brosnan and Craig. I know the Brosnan stories were a bit rubbish, but I did enjoy them a lot more than the Moore/Connery/Dalton ones - So far the Craig ones have been good and I've enjoyed them, but in the end I went for the Brosnan ones....

    Of course, since my BluRay boxset arrived this morning I might have to sit down and rewatch the lot in order just so that I get the enjoyment of them all over again! (Damn this being in work thing - I could be most of the way through Dr. No by now!)

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Mine arrived last week. I'm now suffering from the violence and special effects overkill in all the later films and actually gave up watching that last one (which I hadn't seen before): it's back in its slot. Connery it has to be...

  17. Test Man
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    It clearly has to be Roger Moore. Anyone saying different is a complete WRONGUN.

    Now where's that Spitting Image sketch with Sean Connery and Roger Moore to illustrate...

  18. Anonymous Coward
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    "you appear with a tedious inevitability Mr.."

    Bond-readers-poll

    Connery for me

  19. andy gibson
    Megaphone

    Fleming Fiction

    Not sure if its to anyone's tastes but there's a British author called James Follett (not Ken) who wrote a series of novels based at a WW2 POW camp at Grizedale, Lake District (Cage of Cages, Forest of Eages, Return of the Eagles) and one of the lead characters is Ian Fleming. The Bond hints are subtle but good, and well worth a read, as are his other books.

  20. George of the Jungle
    Happy

    Connery

    I had to vote for Connery; the first movie I saw in the theatre was "You Only Live Twice".

    I did like Brosnan's portrayal though; he had the suave veneer, with the underlying darkness, although those movies were, as someone else said, pants.

    Moore was the best in "Live and Let Die" and "Man with the Golden Gun" (though I really preferred him as Simon Templar). Moore also was hobbled with the 70s, and the fru-fru of the time. He played a much better character later as the tetchy "ffolkes".

    I've though Lazenby did as well as could be expected with 1) following Connery and 2) having an awful script.

    Dalton's movies were forgettable for me. I'm not sure if it was the time or what, but I don't think I've seen them more than once.

    I'm trying to like Craig, with Casino Royale being good, but Quantum of Solace was bollocks. I'm hoping Skyfall will be better.

  21. Tom 13

    I'd like to say it was a tough choice,

    I find Moore completely enjoyable and like Lazenby's single appearance. And to be honest, most of the ones I find blah are because of really lousy scripts not the actors or the way they played the character.

    But the truth is that when I get together with friends and the GM is snarking a character with an angel on one shoulder, It's not the devil on the other side it's Sean Connery. So he wins without even thinking about it.

  22. Robert Helpmann??
    Childcatcher

    The Bond Game

    I've asked this question for years as an icebreaker. Men tend to be pretty well spread out (much like the current polling on this survey when I looked) and women favor Connery heavily by >90%.

  23. P.Nutt
    Thumb Up

    Remember the film posters - "Sean Connery IS James Bond" ? Well, yes he was, and always will be. He had just the right look, particularly if you were already familiar with the books. Moore was an joke ("Carry On Bond"), Dalton and Brosnan were not all that bad and now Craig`s excellent attempt - Connery, however, is burned into our collective memory as 007, however creaky some of those early films now look.

    He will always get my vote.

    Mine is the one with "Made by Q branch" patch.

    1. Thomas 4
      Coat

      Oops

      Sorry sir, your jacket exploded and took half the room with it.

  24. PerlyKing

    Connery all the way

    Lazenby was OK, Moore was too tongue-in-cheek, Dalton was let down by the scripts, Brosnan was pretty good. Craig is good, but the character isn't James Bond to me; the films are more generic action movies. And he never gets out of breath!

  25. thomas newton

    pffft - Moore carried off the

    'perfect english gent' type cool as shown by John Steed and Captan Picard (technically a frenchman, but he's played as English as they come by patrick stewart) - never blows his cool, always perfectly mannered - even when someone's trying to kill him (seen in The Spy Who Loved Me, when Caroline Munro's helicopter pilot is doing her best to machine gun him.) plus he could show a hard edge when he needed to (such as when he gave Locque's car a helping hand - or foot - off the cliff in For Your Eyes Only.)

    Dalton second as he really did play the part as it was written - I read a good piece (I forget where unfortunately) on a 007 website a while ago where the case was made for his performance in Licence To Kill being the template for Craig's portrayal.

    Brosnan a very close third - although his last outing broke any last bounds of believability.

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I rate the Bonds on how many great films each had

    Connery was definitely the best actor of the early years, and arguably ever. But until Diamonds are Forever he never seemed comfortable with one-liners and quips. He was also less of a stereotype bond. In general his movies have less vodka martinis, etc. The killer for me though is that whilst From Russia with Love makes it into my all-time top 5, no other Connery film makes it into the top 10. Thunderball was unfortunately turgid due to the lengthy underwater sequences with no dialogue. And despite the largest set of all time (at the time), and a truly brilliant opening, You Only Live Twice was also pretty turgid. The whole Japanese island thing before the volcano takes forever without giving us any useful plot advancement. OHMSS is just dreadful. Lazenby is never a credible Bond. Roger Moore is interesting. He has some of the worst abominations for example Moonraker or The Man with the Golden Gun. But, he has at least 3 outstanding movies. Two of which are in my top 5. Spy who Loved Me, For Your Eyes Only and Live and Let Die are all brilliant. Dalton was also intriguing. The political correctness of that era was clearly a problem, But Living Daylights was a good film. License to Kill has its moments as well. License to Kill is probably in my top 5, but only just.

    Brosnan was very interesting. Goldeneye was without doubt one of the best Bond movies, easily in my top 5 and probably my number 2 all time Bond film. But then the films lost their edge. Had Brosnan had a second film even close to the quality of Goldeneye, he would have been my favourite Bond. Craig I have an issue with. Whilst as an actor I'm finding him compelling, the films are not holding up. I really enjoyed Casino Royale at the cinema, but it didn't really survive a second watching. Quantum of Solace was pretty bad.

    So for me, by the fact that he has 2 films in my top 5, Moore is my favourite Bond. Brosnan then comes in next, followed by Connery and Dalton. Craig is second to last, and Lazenby is dreadful. It would be easy for Craig to shoot up the list a little if one of his next films is really good.

  27. Len Goddard

    It is still Connery for me, despite the political incorrectness of the films. Most of the later Bonds have had to suffer from pretty naff scripts padded out with special effects and big fight/chase scenes. The results are neither memorable nor impressive.

    Dalton made quite a good fist of his two outings. Brosnan was too smooth. Moore was far too smooth. Lazenby was not bad but struggled with a really poor script and a leading lady who couldn't stand him (is it really true she ate raw onions before every love scene?). Craig comes second for Casino Royale, but Quantum of Solice is so forgettable that the only thing about it I can remember is that I have seen it.

  28. John F***ing Stepp

    Well, how about the forgotten bond?

    Which would be Barry Nelson.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Nelson

    The first ever James (Jimmy) Bond and not even on the list.

  29. ukgnome
    Pint

    When I ran a pub my interview questions usually had a Bond question in it, either best Bond or best Bond gadget.

    Basically if they couldn't answer the finer points of Bond then they couldn't deal with some of my more awkward customers. These days the IT interview question is which is better, Tizer or Dr Pepper. I like to think that this is still Bond relevant as Tizer should be an acronym for a bond gadget and Dr Pepper should be an American female agent, all busty and lusty.

    *beer icon, as this proves I need one

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Pint

      Cheers

      I think I would have liked your pub

  30. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    I demand an option to choose David Niven!!

    But if I had been thinking about the original "Casino Royale" I would also wanted Woody Allen's "Jimmy Bond" to be on last week's ultimate Bond villian list. Not exactly a Bond film, but Woody Allen was pretty funny for being reduced to pantomiming his evil plan because of monumental masculine insecurity in the presence of the suave 007.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    B double-O ring

    Can we have an option for "None of them and the James Bond films are one of the most tediously shite and over-rated movie franchises of all time" please? I guarantee you it'll get at least one vote.

  32. Peter W.

    Best Bond

    Connery, after him, I'm split on Brosnan and Craig... past that... meh

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