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OK, so when iOS 6 arrives in an hour or so, you'll rush to download it no matter what. You may as well, it's free, especially if you're not using any old apps that might warrant compatibility fears. Apple has promised the new operating system delivers more than 200 new features, but the vast majority of those aren't user- …

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Cloudy Maps

The other issue with Apples maps compared to Googles maps, is that the satellite view for where I live now has a load of clouds obscuring large parts...eg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6036078/thecloud.png

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Re: Cloudy Maps

Maybe thats from the "Cannabis Clinics" points of interest, listed just under "Candy Stores"

Seriously.

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Meh

Re: Cloudy Maps

that's Apple's icloud. They thought you might like to your stuff in it.

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I have a plane over mine :-\

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Not that useful on a 4

You get hardly any of the new features (no turn-by-turn, no 3D maps, no Siri, no panorama cam) but Google Maps and with it Street View will be gone for good.

This is poor, especially since at least navigation and Siri should work just fine on it.

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Standards

Notice, though, that this didn't stop The Register writing a 'review' of iOS 6 used on a device that isn't even capable of demonstrating many of the features that said iOS delivers?

Seriously, Reg, what kind of shit article is this? If you're going to try objectively report on iOS 6, put your hands in your pockets and buy your staff a phone capable of running it. Either that or spin this god awful excuse for a 'review' into a massive slag off piece about why Apple chose not to implement half the features on the iPhone 4.

Grow some teeth, pick a side and run with it but stop putting up these useless reviews.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

The new version of Maps is utter pants anyway.

I regularly use Goog Maps on my i4 as a mini GPS. I don't care about turn by turn - I just want a good map with a shiny blue dot on it.

Maps is not a good map. Rural A roads and smaller aren't numbered. They're not even named correctly. Only dual carriageways get proper numbers.

There are also really bad, really obvious mistakes. One village near me is in completely the wrong place. If you try to route to it you - quite literally - end up half way up a hill in the middle of nowhere.

I don't mind Apple getting rid of Goog maps. But this version of Apple Maps is nowhere close to being fit fo purpose. And really, when you're the biggest corp in the world, how hard is it to check these things and get them right?

Once the punters try it, I predict more bad PR for Apple.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

try NavFree it's free and works like a high end gps

or in the uk Outside - Ordanace Survey based ( and you can download the maps so no need for 3G data)

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

It's obviously a purely business decision, rather than wanting to provide a better user experience.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

NavFree on Android is riddled with shitty internet dating ads.

It also doesn't do offline search or navigation, so wtf is the point as a replacement to Google Maps? Idiotic.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

The iPhone4 came out two years ago, though. Is it reasonable to ask that devices always be built with hardware capabilities two years ahead of current needs? Is the expectation that hardware development should always be ahead of software development? Do you expect the OS writers to say 'this hardware they've given us, we shouldn't use it to its full capabilities so that when we release a new version two years from now, it will still run on this hardware." Is that coherent?

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

This might be a stupid question but I can't work it out from comments or the article. Can you still use the Google maps on iOS6? I presume you can still access the online version. Is it possible that Google will release an App that provides it in a more useful format and / or other app writers can use Google maps instead of the Apple maps?

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@h4rm0ny

My guess is that Apple would use the excuse of "duplicate functionality" to forbid a Google maps app.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

Yes - NavFree is pretty useful, even on Android, if you're abroad and don't want roaming data costs.

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Re: Not that useful on a 4

And here we go. From the BBC:

New Apple maps app under fire from users

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Based on the bulk of the review,

it seems that most of the improvements are in Apps rather than the OS.

The OS is the stuff that enables the Apps to function, not the functionality of the Apps.

Maybe there is a big difference between iOS5.1.1 and iOS6, but this article doesn't give us any clue about what that OS difference is.

Please let us know if you have info on that.

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Re: Based on the bulk of the review,

There are a bunch of new APIs under the cover. None of it is earth shattering and significant parts of it are more to do with offering centralised and properly updated support for things you could have achieved by other means (eg, the Facebook integration, the helping hands for UI state preservation and the new constraints-based layout framework, the latter being no doubt to enable iPhone 5 support) but there's quite a lot there nevertheless.

In the world where Chrome is on version 21, Firefox is on version 15, etc, I don't per se see anything wrong with incrementing the version number just for significant internal changes but I think your main point is correct — if this is of interest to you at all will mainly hinge on what you think of the app updates.

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Re: Based on the bulk of the review,

Thanks ThomH, that's quite a helpful insight. I guess that whether it should be labelled iOS5.2 or iOS6 has as much to do with Apple wanting a "New" iOS for the iPhone 5 as their software release and QA process.

I've been trying to figure if I should upgrade: The leap from iOS5.x to iOS6.x suggested some significant core improvements or security enhancements. But, since the changes to the Apps don't do much for me personally, I think I'll hold off until maybe there is a security fix required or other significant core change.

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What an ugly outdated GUI !

I'm sorry but that interface looks so exhuasted and outdated it's embarrassing. It would have looked cool and hip in the 90's/00's but ffs, haven't we moved on since then?

Say what you want about Windows Phone (and yes I own one), but at least I've got a phone that has the balls to do something different. This phone has just got 'Footloose' written all over it (original film, not the remake) - I.e, bad hair styles, crap music, shite dancing (when looked at from a 2012 perspective).

Apple, time for a reboot?

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You've put your finger on it!

THAT'S what's bugging me about the look of iPhones - the interface looks way too much like the ORIGINAL OS-X, from way back in 2001! Dated dated dated... :-(

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Re: What an ugly outdated GUI !

Totally agree, the fact they are just dumb icons too, why? I have an iPhone 4 and after trying my wife's Nokia with Windows Phone 7.5, I really feel like my phone is second best despite being 3-4 times the price.

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Re: What an ugly outdated GUI !

Say what you want about Windows Phone (and yes I own one),

Oh you poor man I feel so sorry for you

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First Maps Pic

should read "Just a stone's throw away!"

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Passbook - and that may yet prove a damp squib.

It has to be universal before everyone will invest time and effort to support it. If it's just Apple it will be very limited.

I expect Apple will throw some money at a few companies to support it.

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Are widgets patented to Android only? if not I am very suprised IOS STILL does not have them. Android is light years ahead of iOS in terms of user configurability and experience.

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Apple prefers to put the information that it expects people might want into the notification area — so in there you get weather, stocks, a summary of your inbox, your Twitter activity, etc. Third party apps are restricted to posting text summaries but otherwise put whatever you want in there. So it's not that iOS still doesn't have them, it's that Apple has chosen to implement something else instead.

If you look at the history of widgets elsewhere — banished from Windows, ignored in OS X, the related clutter a driving force behind the average user's preference for search engines over web portals — you can sort of understand that position, even if you're part of the large group of people that don't agree with it.

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Looking at the screen shots in the article, much of IOS, especially the grid of icons and the buttons for call handling look really dated to me. I don't think it is a particularly nice looking bit of design.

However, I'm a happy Android user and I'll defend Apples decision not to have widgets - I only have a few icons for things I launch often on my home screen because the widgets don't have a uniformed look and I feel my home screen looks cluttered with them on. The only exception is the power options widget which I have on the second screen to the left, so I can just swipe left and change the screen brightness, etc.

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Android puts new information (new messages, etc.) into the notification area too. But that's not quite the same as being able to put live information direct onto my home screen, like financial prices, task list, sports results, etc. - these things you don't want notifications for, you want to be able to pick up your phone and see them at a glance. Windows phone has live tiles, which seem to be somewhat similar in that they can be made bigger or smaller and display live info.

I think you'll find that when Apple to eventually add this (and they will), it'll suddenly go from being that thing that nobody really wants or needs to being an essential life-changing experience that you simply cannot do without.

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In moving from Android to Win Pho, widgets, and the control of the home screens is the one thing I really miss. I can't complain, because one of the reasons I moved is that I wanted a simpler OS - I want a phone with a great address book, that also does computery things, not a mobile computer. I'd be even less happy with an iPhone. And Win Pho 8 looks to be copying some of the widget goodness from Google - which is all to the good.

I don't really understand people saying they don't like widgets because it makes the home screen look cluttered. But the strength of Android is that it accommodates them as well. The ability to ruin the designers' idea of uncluttered elegance is what makes widgets so great. Sure Google, Apple or MS may not think that being able to change screen brightness from the home screen is important, but they're wrong! Phone screens are still crap in sunlight, and you have to dial the brightness to max, but with Android I could leave it low in side, and know I only had to hit one button to make the phone usable outside. So my Android had a bar that allowed me to change brightness, turn on the satnav and turn off mobile data. I could also leave a gap where I swiped my finger down to open the notification area, and avoid accidental presses

In my case, it's not so much the email type widgets (I'll use the full app), as the phone control ones. Though on a tablet I'd love both. But Android is streets ahead, because it puts the customer in control. MS are catching up, but Apple seem to have made very little improvement. And the notification area becomes totally pointless once you've got more than a handful of updates, because it's then just a big old scrolly list, and no use to just glance at.

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ah yes, the notification area that was blatantly copied from android....

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@cap'n

Apple puts live information into its notification area, not merely new messages. So, for example, the topmost thing by default is a five-day graphical weather forecast, which is updated live.

Apple's notification area also lists new information as per its Android inspiration but it goes further. It's not merely posting notifications for weather, stocks, etc.

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Is it just me..

...or does the iOS 6 App Store bear a canny resemblance to the Google Play Store.

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Re: Is it just me..

I don't know, I didn't go into app store.

/PF

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Google maps

In Safari go to http://maps.google.co.uk/ and create a homescreen icon for it. Enable Location Services for Safari, if not already, and you can then use your new icon for Google Maps. It's not as slick as the original dedicated app but it's got the all-important detail and can route, etc.

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WARNING : Siri is sick

I just upgraded my 4S and poor old Siri no longer sounds anywhere near as clear as before... perhaps they only tested the US female voice, the UK male voice sounds more like Stephen Hawking's machine after the upgrade.

I synced my phone before upgrading, now to work out how to revert...

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>UK male voice sounds more like Stephen Hawking's machine after the upgrade.

It was like this for a while during beta with US siri, the hq voice returned only recently. The speech is streamed from NV - my guess would be they are working on cache for UK language and are thinking of the Eskimos. Either way it will be fixed without requiring an OS update.

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COME HERE BOY...

"It's satellite snaps seem more detailed"

Tut tut tut...

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Pint

Re: COME HERE BOY...

Well done sir. Its * a damn shame people get it wrong. (*sic)

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Google Map app

Wasn't Google Map supposed to reappear as a stand-alone app?

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3GS Speed Up

I installed iOS 6 on my 3GS last night. It seems to have restored some of the speed back to the phone. The user interface is much more responsive.

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Bring back the Moderatrix

Can the Moderatrix please come back ? It's getting rather tiring to read the comments on Android & Apple stories just to see most of them are of the ilk "My Toy/Tool/Gadet/etc is bigger/better/etc than yours" or "Company X did this centurys before company Y"

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Will I still get audible text alerts in my ear while I'm on the phone? I'M BETTING SODDING YES.

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Interesting set of comments...

Half of them are moaning about how the UI is 'dated' and Apple should focus on making it more snazzy and whizzy like android

The other half are moaning about how both android and iOS are only now getting round to implementing useful functionality that feature phones had implemented a decade ago

Clearly Form Vs Function is still a challenge for everyone

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Aren't these pretty much a bunch of app updates all released on the same day?

Android users get things like this added as the apps are updated (except the DND settings). But things like the facebook integration or any other integration all come when you install a new app such as Facebook, Twitter, Skype.

Browser sync and stuff comes with Chrome or Dolphin browser install.

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Places of Interest

Let me tell you about the evening me & my mate Dave decided to use the Google Maps app to try and find a Karaoke bar in central London.

We walked 10 minutes to a Karaoke bar which was boarded up, another 15 minutes to a Karaoke bar that wasn't open that night, and eventually ended up 15 minutes later in a gay bar where a couple of straight men were *not* welcome. And it wasn't Karaoke night anyway.

We would have done better getting pissed where we were and then walking the streets singing Delilah at the top of our voices. (Maybe Siri would have suggested that.)

So yeah, POI databases - don't really care about the size. Large doesn't mean useful, and may mean the opposite.

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Bluetooth

Finally they've moved Bluetooth on/off to the main Settings list rather than yet another touch below.

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Can you keep google maps still?

I don't want to upgrade and lose it. I find the street view and lots of points of interest very useful.

Can you have both apps?

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Going back

Upgrade my 4 to iOS6 last night and I'll be restoring a backup as the new Maps suck! Though it won't be long before I jump ship to another phone as Apple really seem to have lost the plot. They've spent more time building a higher ring fence with the maps, and YouTube removal, without adding anything worthwhile for the users (you know Apple the people that pay your wages).

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Unhappy

Re: Going back

How can one 'backgrade'?

Like a prat I updated my iPhone 4 and now really regret it. How can one backgrade to the previous version?

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Re: Going back

I've found this link on the Apple site. Wonder how long that will remain!

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