iPhone 5: UK pay-monthly tariffs compared With fanbois eager to pre-order an iPhone 5, networks have started to tout their predictably expensive tariffs so here's a comparison table to highlight what's on offer. Of course, there are plenty of rates either side of those mentioned below, with varying minutes and data allowances, but in the interests of a fair comparison …
It's not that they don't want to accept it in cash, it's they cant legally accept it in cash in case you are money laundering,
I think the limits on cash are 10k for property purchases (land / houses) or 5k for anything else, anything over those limits is meant to be sourced from a bank account so it's traceable.
> they cant legally accept it in cash in case you are money laundering,
The Money Laundering Regulations 2007 requires that "High value dealers" need to be registered (section 26). A high value dealer is someone who regularly receives 15,000 euros (yes it is UK regulations and it is defined in euros) or more in payment for goods or services (section 3 subsection 12). There is no restriction on the amount of cash they can accept for a transaction.
"There is no restriction on the amount of cash they can accept for a transaction."
Interesting... the UK seem to have done something right this time. The regulations you are quoting are EU-wide stuff, as you can see from another post of mine (seems I got the figure wrong), but clearly in other countries they just couldn't be bothered to make it so that you were not forced to enter in a contract with a third party (the bank), which is something I'm a bit dubious about the legality thereof.
> they just couldn't be bothered to make it so that you were not forced to enter in a contract with a third party (the bank),
The regulations might be the same, it is just that the dealer (or whoever) doesn't want the expense of handling large quantities of cash because:
1 Their insurance would significantly increase.
2 A safe and a secure area would need to be set up for handling and counting the cash.
3 Arrangements for pick ups by armoured cars would have to be made.
Overall, not accepting cash for high value items would have little impact on their business, whereas, accepting cash might significantly increase their costs.
"Buying outright is always cheaper. But there's a reason people don't walk into car dealerships with £15k in a suitcase."
...and where I live, that's because paying in cash for anything (traceable) over, IIRC, €10K gets you a free background check courtesy of the local finance ministry. In the end I got the dealer to cover the cost of a bank transfer.
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My sister in-law an existing Orange customer has just pre-ordered a 32GB with unlimited data for £41 a month and £140 for the handset. I'm looking at going from an iPhone 4 on O2 for an iphone5 but there's not many offering unlimited data plans in my opinion needed for LTE so I don't get data plan anxiety, so probably going for Orange too. Any idea how much data FaceTime uses per minute and can you do this over LTE?
Facetime uses about 3MB/minutes. It will work over both 3G and LTE, *providing* your cell company allows it.
Look at 3 or T Mobile if you want unlimited data. T Mobile are owned by the same parent company (EE) as Orange and they are merging the brands. £149 and £41/month buys you a 32GB phone and unlimited everything with them.
Three on the other hand will give you a 32GB phone with 2000 minutes, 5000 texts and unlimited internet for £89 down and £39/month. That includes tethering BTW, T Mobile don't permit that.
I expect eventually the government will rule that mobile phone contracts are loans and force APRs to be shown. Not that it'll make much difference as the people who would ignore the APRs are the ones who will take a phone for 'free' on a 50 quid a month contract for 2 years.
That aside I think it'll be 12 month contracts for me from now on, and I'll steel myself to view anything over a tenner a month as a debt I'm repaying. I'd rather it was always cheaper to buy it outright, but while it isn't always the case, I guess I can tolerate having a contract and having to do the sums on it. When the SGS4 comes out I think I'll do the sums and end up on a contract again...
Quite a difference between 500 and 200 minutes as well. I would imagine a lot of people use around / more than 500 minutes a month and bet they get very expensive outside your contract rate. Think last time I looked extra minutes were 25-35p per minute so 6-8 minutes out of contract and you have paid that £2 difference.
I'm with Vodafone and have been for a long time. I took a contract out and was catagorically told that I woud not be charged to connect my laptop to an iPhone. Then I got billed for "tethering" My old phone (windows 6) didn't give a shite if the data was from the phone or from a BT connected laptop and still doesn't.
I like Vodafone because they have a 2G network which I use most of the time when I'm not using data and am pretty reluctant to move off their network but when the contract is up for renewal I'm going to look around.
Tethering charges are something that the cell networks wanted to be able to do, so Voda lied to you when they said they were't going to charge you. Some networks do, some don't, but Android devices not reporting that they are tethering isn't something you should rely on.
Modern phones are much better at 3G talk/data time than they used to be, so switching back to 2G is no longer something you need to worry about.
I was in the Harlequin today, and they've like opened a whole new shrine to it. My life will be all for naught lest I get this latest gadget.
What will I do, if I end up with one after my friends? What will they think of me? Never mind about that. How will I cope to be the only one without the "Hi Five"? I'm just crying at the moment at the sheer possibility.
I wish they could restore Steve Jobs, maybe we could get Richard Attenborough in to do a Jurassic Park on him. But you tell people, and they just don't understand. They think it's not important. Well I've got two words for them. It is! It is important.
Someone told me that Apple are being outsold two to one by Samsung now. They only did it to make me upset. And I don't believe it anyway. It can't be true. One guy even said he was waiting for a surface in the shop. He told his daughter we were all tw@ts. Well let me just say that my friends and I spent all day in the Harlequin store, playing with display versions of all the products that I've already got one of, and he just didn't get it. Tables out of that kind of wood don't come cheap, you don't put rubbish on that kind of wood.
These peasants that prefer a surface, just because you can run a dev environment, SQL Server, Web servers, Flash and so on, and because they have internet connectivity, virtual machine capability, usb ports, and can drive a monitor without some kind of extra black box. Well they've no idea of the value of the style that black Apple box confers on people.
I sometimes despair at my fellow humans. They don't know what style is. They don't realise that computers don't need to run things their owners want. I long for the day when they realise that someone, someone very special, knows much better than they do, what they need, and is happy to ensure they don't get what they deem their customer doesn't need. This is why they're so expensive. It's because they have to go to great lengths to ensure you don't get anything Steve doesn't think you should have. This costs money. This is why I'll never buy Microsoft. Their products just do too much.
I bought a 4s from gumtree, on a £22 orange contract 500min/ultd txt etc
Id rather pay someone for there phone than know all my money is going to the greedy phone companies who have forced all these prices to go up purely just cos they can.
dont think I need 4G, most of the time I just use wifi. I think 3g is good enough. I guess they can sell faster speeds to the kids who need to access facebook faster and wank about one direction on twitter
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