Apple 'offered Samsung $30-per-mobe' patent licence truce

Re: Apples innovation is more than I thought

I didn't say that Apple claimed they invented smartphones (though to be fair, I can see my wording might have been misread that way), I said that's what fanatics believe. I didn't mean to imply that this was due to Apple - just that it's a rather state of affairs anyway.

"Apple just has an uncanny knack of taking something already existing and drastically overhauling many user-orientated aspects and physical design to the extent that other companies suddenly feel they should've been doing it that way all along, and popularising it with the general consumers in the process."

Just like many other multinational companies do too.

"Yes, there were MP3 Players before the iPod, tablet computers before the iPad and smartphones before the iPhone, but everyone here must see that Apple's re-inventions have re-defined what people expect such devices to be like."

What - rectangular with rounded corners?

Again, the same can be said of any of the companies in these markets. There's no reason to focus on Apple, nor is any of your Apple advertising relevant to anything I said in my comment. Companies like Nokia, Google, Samsung, Sandisk, Asus, Microsoft, ARM, NVIDIA and Intel have redefined what people expect devices to be like, and have done so for far larger numbers of customers. But that doesn't mean I can get away with claiming MS invented computers or Samsung invented phones.

Iphone is just a brandname for a product family, same with Ipod and Ipad. Same with Galaxy. I love my Samsung Galaxy, which has sold in the hundreds of millions and revolutionised smartphones, but so what.

Apple are like the kid in the family that comes 3rd in the egg and spoon race at school. For some reason people like you give them endless praise, as if that was special or anything different to what many other multinationals are doing. And anyone who disagrees, or is tired of hearing it, is branded "anti-"Apple. (And I like how you say "rabid Apple fanbois" as if referring to other people, then go into a big speech about the wonders of that one company, even though no one requested it.)

Re: What?!

If the poster was from the US, to his US centric view it might appear so. The fact that Nokia had a very small market share in the US, while at the same time being bigger than Android+Apple combined globally, probably passed him by. The US is a very insular in many respects.

Re: What?!

Since when was a "a scanner interface for operating theatres" a mobile phone?

Another idiot who needs to learn how to read... Geez

Re: What?!

Another person who reads what they want to read, rather than what has been written.

"There is nothing 'innovative' about capacitive touch sensing."

Did anyone here say there is?

"Similarly there is nothing clever about multi-touch."

Where's the person stating otherwise?

" touch screens would become pretty much standard fare. Apple didn't even do it first"

Again, nobody is claiming they did do touch screens first.

"Finally, don't get hung up on CAPACITIVE touch, it's actually pretty crap. There is a far better and greatly more reliable method slowly appearing in industrial stuff."

Nobody here seems to be getting hung up on capacitive touch, except you. However, this now "slowly appearing" better tech in "industrial stuff" is totally irrelevant to the tech available 5 years ago, when capacitive touch was the best, most cost effective solution for the newest mobile phones at the time.