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Back in 1997, I worked in a youth centre and some fool gave me the keys to the place. So I would sneak in every night to continue a degrading tryst with Diablo I, cutting down waves of monsters in anticipation of a loot splurge. It was a while before I worked out the portal system – I used to moan about the amount of walking – …

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    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      You just want to dupe items / install hacks / cheats. Very few people do not have Internet access these days.

      1. HP Cynic

        I've never done any of those things but you've just proved you want to be an idiot and a "fanboi".

        It's a single player game for most and thus it should not suffer the issues of an online game: sure "most" people have the internet but on launch day that did little good against the Error 37s.

        My internet is not 100% stable, I don't trust Blizzard's servers to be up all the time and I don't want to have ANY risk of lag for any reason.

        There's not a single good reason for DRM bullshit when they could have just split SP and MP characters.

        1. Asiren

          Travel is my problem

          I'd like to play the game when on a lay-over between flights or even on the flight itself. Online-only stops me from being able to play the games when-and-where I want.

  1. Parax
    Facepalm

    Free online play

    Yes, its true! Play Diablo III for Free online here...

  2. Richard Wharram

    DRM

    I can't believe anyone who played D2 would complain about this. I always played on Battle.net so had to be online anyway and that was 10 years ago. Add to that the terrible problems with item duping and suddenly always-on protection for this game seems a good idea.

    Obviously it would be annoying if devs adopt the same model for purely single-player games but that's another issue. This is D3 not another game.

    Got mine from amazon pre-order for £22. Unfortunately I haven't had a working gaming PC for months. Bah :(

    Back to Baal runs with my Hammerdin on the netbook for nostalgia then...

    Icon is Diablo obviously.

    1. Richard Wharram

      Re: DRM

      Icon is vanished obviously :/

      1. Richard Wharram
        Devil

        Re: DRM

        Hey downvoters !

        This is nothing to do with piracy. Pirates will have a SP-only version for free on torrent already no doubt. Good luck to 'em. Diablo just IS an online game though for most people. Sheesh.

        *take cover*

    2. Kevin 6
      Thumb Up

      Re: DRM

      Personally I'm more shocked people are going this bat shit insane over it seeing it was made to be a multiplayer game, and nothing else.

      Unlike when SC2 had always on battle.net even for its true single player mode(this really pissed me off)... SC2 if you do anything all you can do is affect a online statistic it has 0 recourse on other players. Diablo 3 you can really ruin the game for others.

      The people whining about Diablo 3 online only are probably the same ones that cried to blizzard due to all the cheating in Diablo 1 and 2 due to the offline single player mode.

      For the record I'm no fanboy honestly I see MANY problems with blizzard (specially since activision got them), and I wil not be buying StarCraft 2's "expansions" which are exactly the same as DLC seeing it had an unfinished campaign mode (as compared to every other RTS blizz has done in the past) that they are trying to pass off as an expansion.

      Also I got it free for playing wow for a year. I do regret signing up for the year pass though this at least makes the pain a little less.

      1. Not That Andrew
        FAIL

        Re: DRM

        No, I am moaning about the always on connection because I mostly played Diablo 1 and 2 singleplayer offline and see no compelling reason why I would need to be online were I to play singleplayer in Diablo 3. But I won't be playing Diablo 3.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    So, your saying yet another PC game where the purchaser is manipulated into being on the Net and having to register before they can play what they have already bought: and, no doubt, the old tired excuse of piracy being dragged out in an effort to justify it? I think my PC game playing days must be nearing an end. I don't ask how high because a seller demands I jump. I'll leave that to those who don't care what hoops they must go through, or who fail to understand the reasonable objection.

  4. Pete Spicer

    Haven't played, but I'm given to understand the always-online aspect is not merely because of the item marketplace, but also because your friends can jump in and out of games virtually at will which does sort of require always-online.

  5. John70

    I got my Diablo III for "free". I signed up to the Annual Pass for World of Warcraft. My reason for it was since I'll be playing Mists of Pandaria when it comes out might as well have a free game.

    Like others said Launch Day was a shambles until Blizzard employees woke up and a message appeared on the US forums about 10:30am PST (about 18:30 BST) about the login problem. I noticed it was working about 21:30 BST. So nearly 24 hours in Europe with the problem.

    Mind you when has anything on launch day goes smoothly for online/mmo games?

    We'll probably have the same thing again with Mists of Pandaria.

    However now that I can play the game, I'm having fun with my Witch Doctor, firey bats AoE and rune enabled blowdarts firing 3 at a time. Only level 10 at the moment.

    and killed the Skeleton King.

  6. Cyberspice
    FAIL

    Whine whine whine DRM whine whine whine...

    Since I play Blizzard's other bottomless pot of gold, World of Warcraft, I'm used to have to be connected to servers to play games anyway. That you need it for D3 for DRM or so your mates can play co-op I don't care. D3 is beautiful on my 27in iMac. And when my broadband dropped out the other day? No problem. I switched the mac to wifi, fired up the hotspot on my android, and carried on playing...

    1. Not That Andrew

      Re: Whine whine whine DRM whine whine whine...

      However, Diablo is not an MMO.

  7. stucs201

    Monster Immunity

    Does it have monsters that are immune to certain types of damage? I was really happy when (unlike D1) they didn't have that in D2. Meant my favourite class (sorceress) could effectively be 3 (fire, cold and lightning specialists). Then they brought out the expansion, added immunity back in and all three had to become very similar generalists:(

    1. Richard Wharram

      Re: Monster Immunity

      Immunities were a bugger in LoD for certain classes. Why do you think everyone needed a hammerdin :/

      1. Panix
        Devil

        Re: Monster Immunity

        Or a good merc.

  8. Eradicate all BB entrants

    Yes the game is good but .......

    ....... only in the way that D1 and D2 were good. I got it free with the annual pass but seem to be the only person on the planet that is gutted by the apparent lack of effort of moving it on from Diablo 2.

    The game itself is good, but the graphics, they just suck. It seems in all that time they have added a few extra polygons/sprites and a bit of glitter. Archaic interface, can't customise character. The stupid battle tag rubbish. And after years of being spoilt by WoW fmv on the expansions an extremely damp, dull and totally uninspiring start to the game. People, church, rock then hole. Awesome.

    I don't think it was intended as a game, more intended as an exercise of how a once good software house could do the least amount of work, charge a premium and have fool reviewers still give it a good score instead of the serious kicking that is much needed.

    Sod Diablo 3, bring on Torchlight 2

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Yes the game is good but .......

      This is why I've been worried about D3. The older Diablos were Blizzard North games. After the Activision fiasco, Blizzard North walked and got shut down. So this team is completely different. They just don't have the same passion.

    2. Kevin 6

      Re: Yes the game is good but .......

      battle tag rubbish?

      I prefer it over the real ID crap they had so we could talk to ppl cross game, and think this is what should have been put in initially.

      I'll be honest I did feel the game was kind of short, and lacking in challenge in the normal mode. When I played Diablo 2 it took me well over a week of almost nonstop playing to beat the game. This I flipped in under 3 days moderate playing. Also the itemization is extremely SHITTY. Seriously last boss in the game dropped fuckin level 20 gear... where some random mob I killed in act 3 dropped gear better than him.

      Now nightmare the difficulty is ludicrous. Seriously generic rare mobs are harder than the bosses are in normal.

  9. SpaMster
    Unhappy

    Was really looking forward to playing this, unfortunatly it wont run on a gaming pc i bought two years ago, which i dont understand at all. The graphics arnt that great so why does it need a monster machine to run properly?

    1. G Mac

      My machine is circa July 2009 and has most settings on high, so a two year old gaming machine should be fine.

      What kind of rig do you have? Video drivers are the most important - it won't be happy unless they are updated.

  10. jason 7
    FAIL

    Geez..easily pleased or what?

    "But it's the cut scenes that take my breath away. Ah, so now I see where the money went."

    That is NOT a good thing.

    Cut scenes get watched once if they are lucky and never seen again. It's not what I pay for.

    Amazed Game firms always piss so much cash and effort up the wall on them.

    1. Figgus

      Re: Geez..easily pleased or what?

      They do it because it makes the reviewers go gaga over them, apparently.

  11. Ilsa Loving

    Looking forward to Torchlight 2 instead

    I was curious about the game, but after reading about how they're forcing an always online connection even in single player mode, that interest almost instantly reversed. I had hoped that Starcraft 2 was an isolated incident, but it appears all their games are going this way. Well, that just means my money will go elsewhere.

    Torchlight 2 sounds very promising. Not only no DRM but they even permit local LAN co-op play! I'm glad *someone* still remembers how to do that.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    DRM infestation for casual muppets

    I have to say I was disapointed with this game.

    DRM mess was to be expected, but...

    Dumbing things down to so casual it almost hurts.. Yuck. Now pretty much all people have same character builds. There's no any difference except by how much you waste money buying some equipment, or farming for it yourself... There's no choices and there's no consequences from those choices. It's meant for adhd-generation of kiddies and brain-dead muppets who wants it all without sacrifices.

    Casualization goes so deep it's rather clear this game was designed so it can be ported for consoles and it's just matter of time.

    I don't see me playing this game nowhere near as much as I played Diablo 2 + LoD. Played through it with barbarian on normal and nightmare and testing other characters but this just don't "feel diablo" anymore because of the lack of choices. It's like some average generic hack'n'slash what would not even pop out from the masses without name Diablo and Blizzard.

    So, in all, I'd give this game maybe 7/10. It's playable but after run it through all the interest is gone because all will have just same build except equipment, meh.

    Visuals are ok, audio was bit of a letdown though.

    I'm hoping Torchlight 2 will cover up disappointment on this. And maybe in the future Grim Dawn. If I'd want super casual game I'd play bejeweled.

    All in all, playable but there's zero interest to bother with this game after playing with all characters once.

    Should have waited opinions from people before wasted 50€ for this, would rather have bought few cases of beer with that money and be entertained longer.

    1. G Mac

      Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets

      I agree with the DRM for single player games, but I suspect it will be more of that in the future. Not being able to play it offline (plane flight say) sucks - it would be nice if you could grab an offline token every now and again. Time will tell if it will be successful.

      But, ah, the old 'no consequences' line because you can now change builds without re-rolling.

      *You* could make a choice not to change builds, but simply take new stuff as it becomes available - like it did in D2 and trees. And make sure you tell folks you didn't 're-spec' because that's important.

      As for same builds, I doubt it. In the old days you had to do research into builds because a mistake could screw you down the track - so all builds for folks in the know was the same, and the 'muppets' were left wondering why there character sucked when they had 'different' builds.

      I suspect this need to have 'consequences' last for your entire character falls in line with flagellantism. It should be right up their ally to restrain themselves from the sin of 're-spec' by simply ignoring new skills as they open up and sticking with what they choose once they do.

      On the other hand, some folks might play it for 'fun' (a mortal sin say some) - and with D3 having more choices than D2 (check the comparison on the web) that is a good thing, at least for me.

      1. Figgus

        Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets

        "But, ah, the old 'no consequences' line because you can now change builds without re-rolling."

        I think he meant "no consequences" because the choices you make really do not matter. There are just a couple choices per key, and not hundreds of combos like there were in D2. WoW is doing the same thing, going from complex and vibrant talent trees to 6 choices of 3 selections each. Woo for variety!!?

        I think the trend of dumbing down games to keep the mouthbreathers playing is a sad one, because I remember when gaming took some thought and dare I say "skill".

        1. G Mac

          Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets

          "I think he meant "no consequences" because the choices you make really do not matter. There are just a couple choices per key, and not hundreds of combos like there were in D2."

          I think you are conflating consequences with choices - they are not the same. I am also not sure how you come to the conclusion there are few choices - each skill can have 6 runes, unlocking as you get to 60. The combinations are pretty plentiful - check this for Barbarian @ 30:

          http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/930659-/62632005

          Of course, there may be only a couple of 'good' choices per skill, but same can be said of the D2 tree. Whether or not you believe they matter, they do to me - I skip some skills and skill/rune combos (@ 21 so far), so they are not all the same. YMMV.

          And I am having fun trying stuff I would never in D2 because I know I can try it out and not regret it 5 levels later. And there *were* some poor choices and combos in D2 - hence builds for serious folks converged.

          Again, "no consequences" to me means "you must be punished if you choose poorly, grasshopper".

          The comparison to the upcoming WoW changes are amusing. For any serious player there were only one (maybe two) valid builds (with a few left over points sprinkled here and there) per spec, and sometimes class. The only real difference was PvE or PvP play. Woe betide any casual player that deviated from those if they were in a random Heroic - they would usually be picked apart pretty quickly. So in the end, for all the choice you had, it was a false choice where realistically there was little. Folks believe however that having 10 choices, where 8 of them suck, is better than just two non-suck choices. Maybe its some sort of gaming version of laissez faire, where the last thing you need to take into account is fun.

          The need for servers sucks big time though. No argument there.

        2. Andy 75

          Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets

          6 choices of 3 selections each you say?

          Too lazy to look at the options and find that you can bind (almost) any of the skills to any of the keys? I'm using two of my primary spells, one on the left mouse button for long range, one on the number 1 key for large waves.

          I would like a fast way to remap key setups like they had in D2 but I can live with it as it stands, I just remind myself that I'm playing this as light hack and slash entertainment.

    2. h4rm0ny

      Re: DRM infestation for casual muppets

      It sounds like the way things are going. I'm a *very* occasional game player. The last game I played with Dragon Age and that itself was the first computer game I'd played in several years. It was a good game. Lots of story and a top-down tactical view. Then they did a sequel. It was pretty bad. They'd ripped out the top down camera angles I am told because it didn't work well for consoles, and they turned it into a super-fast short-attention span action movie. I played the demo. Did not want. Maybe I'll play another game in a couple of years and it will be back to being something that actually uses my PC's abilities and trusts me to keep playing if it doesn't feel like it's directed by Michael Bay. But that doesn't seem to be the way things are going.

  13. Maxson

    Not sure how writing a review with "everything is great/amazing except a server problem that will soon be fixed" makes it an 85%?

    I'm enjoying it a lot, it's a touch repetative though!

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    1. JDX Gold badge

      Re: mat.fletcher@gmail.com

      You're clearly not target market. Losing the fraction of players who buy a game to play casually when it is not a casual game is probably not something they worry about. Same with playing on the plane - the % of people who would not buy it for this reason has to be minescule and therefore they see it as an overall win.

  15. Dropper
    FAIL

    Crappy Blizzard GFX

    Blizzard have done something weird with their code recently. Those having issues with Diablo III should know that something happened around Christmas that causes machines (especially gaming laptops) to overheat and shut off.

    WoW isn't exactly graphics intensive, and a machine that can play Crysis on close to max settings with only a few stutters should not have issues with cartoon graphics. But settings above fair cause my own laptop to die after 5 minutes and Diablo won't last that long on any settings so far.

    These issues started just after the final content was released for Cataclysm, until then WoW didn't have anything that could cause my laptop to fall under 60 fps.

    Crisis and the latest Call of Duty run fine, I can push those settings as high as I like for as long as I like and temps don't break quite reach 80 degrees.

    1. Talic

      Re: Crappy Blizzard GFX

      The extra graphics power required would be due to the engine they use in the game.

      If you want to reduce your laptop overheating, lower the framerate limit in the game's video options. - this works well for me even in Minecraft.

      The default limit is something like 150fps, and your graphics card will just max out to try and meet that.

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Has anything changed ?

    I remember playing D2. Now details are vague due to my advancing age, I DO however vividly remember standing in a doorway, a big-ass axe in one hand, and revitalisation potion (of which I had many) in the other, a pile of around 250 baddy bodies in front of me and Ithey kept coming ( hack hack hack hack - gloop...rince and repeat).

    I'll pass on this one. I just bought Assasins Creed for about 3$ on Steam (oh well). Now that is money well spent !

    1. That Steve Guy

      Re: Has anything changed ?

      "I DO however vividly remember standing in a doorway, a big-ass axe in one hand, and revitalisation potion (of which I had many) in the other, a pile of around 250 baddy bodies in front of me and Ithey kept coming ( hack hack hack hack - gloop...rince and repeat)."

      its like that again but less potion chugging and the big melee warrior dies within 2 hits on difficulty levels above normal. Right now Demon Hunters and Wizards own the game above normal due to kiting and every other class is crying for a nerf to enemy damage and to be buffed themselves.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Thank for the imput guys.

    I will not be getting D3. I bought Skyrim through Steam. Once the game was installed, I can disconnect from Steam. Now I can play Skyrim on my laptop wherever I go without the worry of having an internet connection. If I want to play an always online game I'll play a mmorpg.

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