I object to entering the video as evidence, Your Honor
>"I wish someone had quickly used their mobile to briefly video the event"
But then that person would be violating the airline's rules.
Will video taken on a plane be admissible in court?
Alec Baldwin claimed he was booted off a plane at Los Angeles international airport yesterday, after a flight attendant complained about him playing with a game on his mobile phone. The 30 Rock star, who was hoping to fly to New York on an American Airlines plane, took to his Twitter account to moan about his ejection from the …
Was he using an iThing by any chance? Whenever I fly it seems that all the me-Me-MEphone owners think somehow that they are entitled to furtively operate a prohibited electronic device and to hell with the risk of us all plummeting headlong out of the sky to a horrible death.
They should all have their hands cut off in front of their families.
Probably sat at the gate not moving because at least one passenger hadn't got ready for take off.
You may not agree with the "all electronics off" policy that air lines have, but while they exist you don't get special exception.
While we're at it, learn to at least *try* and spell.
Maybe he did abuse the staff... I imagine it went something like this...
FA: Sir, please turn off your mobile phone
AB: I will when we show signs of moving
FA: Sir, the phone could interfere with important flight controls
AB: That's bull. It's offline, and if you haven't noticed, we're still connected to the gate and not moving, let alone flying.
FA: Sir, if you won't turn off your phone I will have you removed from the plane
AB: Oh f*ck off you jumped up little twat, go mince off and annoy someone else.
Or at least that's how it will go in my head if a flight attendant ever tried the same with me.
"Or at least that's how it will go in my head if a flight attendant ever tried the same with me"
If you were in my car, and refused to turn a phone off when I asked you, I'd boot you out too. My car, my rules, and if you don't like it you can walk.
Just because you are offering fiscal recompense to the airline for the *privilege* of being on their flight, doesn't mean they have to take you. Their plane, their rules, and your refund once you get ejected from the vehicle ;)
Looked at an alternative way:
"We told you to turn your phone off for takeoff. You still have your phone on, so you have failed the intelligence test required to allow you to fly on this plane. Please disembark at our earliest convenience."
Turning off the phone for takeoff is the rule... They weren't anywhere near take off. They were still at the gate!
If not, Mr Baldwin would have had a doozy of a first step when he was ejected!
So I'll continue to use my phone, usually to say "Just boarded, see you soon" before turning it offline whilst we wait for the inevitable couple of planks who are late.
...as the "plank" who was the last passenger to board BA 219 on September 3rd this year, it was entirely the fault of the useless twunt at the check-in counter who issued me with a boarding card that directed me to entirely the wrong gate in entirely the wrong part of LHR T5. *And* my phone was switched off.
Why do you regard it as such an imposition to have your shiny-shiny switched off? Perhaps it is time that self-important people such as yourself and Mr Baldwin should be ejected regularly from flights if you can't follow simple rules.
Disclaimer: I regard commercial flying as wonderful for the sole reason that there are no endlessly pinging, beeping electronics held by endlessly bleating, banal people.
They kicked him off the plane while it was still on the ground. What's the point of that? Wait till they get to their cruising altitude THEN kick him off the plane.
If they did that just once, I'll bet that flight attendants would get a whole lot more courtesy from the self-important twats of the world.
And me with too much decency to use them in public. Seriously, though, would someone take some of these idiotic celebs aside and explain to them, with a clue-by-four if need be, that the rules apply to them just like they do to anyone else? It's like they think being famous somehow makes them better than the rest of us.
And as if that weren't bad enough, the whining and the horrendous grammer is enough to make me contemplate violence. Maybe I'm just a bit more irritable than normal today, but that's just unacceptable from an adult. It's barely tolerable when it comes from teens who are young enough not to know better.
We need more of them. And the more stupid they are, the more we need them.
And the mindless dumb fucks who think it is their job to enforce them. We need more of them also.
But if banks and hughe sums of money are involved, then we don't need rules. Then we need deregulation.
Alec is my hero. We fight the same fight.
If the plane was sat at the gate and the door open, then usually you are allowed things on.
If refueling while still boarding, they usually add a DO NOT BUCKLE UP warning, in addition to electronic devices.
Flying in business when I can, you find that generally staff are much more friendly about this, and people do put stuff down and away once its clear the doors are shutting. Have seen more abuse on the device rule in economy, and oddly it often seems to involve the person who was a pain to staff during the flight too. Some people seem to exude karma where things go badly for them.
Baldwin claims he was removed for playing with his phone whilst still at the gate.
Another passenger claims that the flight had to return to the gate to have Baldwin removed.
Having several flight crew as friends, I am more likely to believe the latter.
Once the cabin door *closes*, devices must be switched off (not switched to flight mode, but *switched off*). That's the FAA mandate, not a spurious argument made by flight crew to annoy you. You are legally obliged to obey.
If not, the plane will either not leave the gate and you will be deplaned, or, if the plane is in motion (or awaiting departure), the plane will *return* to the gate and you will be deplaned.
Sorry Alec Baldwin, but just because you are an X-list celebutard does not mean the world revolves around you. Go charter a jet and fly private in the future if you don't like AA telling you to *SWITCH YOUR DEVICE OFF WHEN THE CABIN DOORS ARE CLOSED*
So Mr Baldwin's mature, reasoned argument boils down to "I should be able to do what I want, when I want to do it. Whaaaaaa". In the colonies, the TSA rules the air, and the TSA says "all instructions from the flight crew must be followed immediately". What part of this is Mr Baldwin too dense to understand ? Two words - Big Baby. Kim was right to dump him.
I am sooooo glad he doesn't fly on my fav airline, Southwest.
Paris, because even she understands the FAA rules, which poor little Alec doesn't. Maybe she can babysit him during his next flight.
...Lawrence O'Donnell (for Britons: host of "Last Word with..." on MSNBC) just said he did sit beside Baldwin on the flight he took from NY to LA on Friday and Baldwin was "polite to a fault", that he had never seen anyone being more polite in his life.
While you are all chewing through the foam that now completely covers your piehole I'd raise another interesting point: just how much trouble he could have caused if the SAME airline IMMEDIATELY booked him the NEXT SAME FLIGHT...?
BTW it's funny if Baldwin, well-known for his liberal views, will indeed switch from the gay-friendly American to United - it was only days ago when this story was picked up by the media: https://www.facebook.com/billycanu/posts/10150484899950406 =)
I would hope so, because now he knows what happens when he's an ass. But I fail to see how that's relevant to his behavior on the flight he was removed from.
Sure they booked him on another flight. And there happened to be a seat available on the next one. I don't know where you get "immediately" from. Anyway, getting kicked off your flight for talking on your phone and being rude to flight attendants sounds like punishment enough for that kind of infraction.
Because that's how the story first went viral, someone was tweeting - y'know, mouthbreathers, ZEE INTERNETZ, aliiiiive, on a plaaaane! - and never been caught, forget being kicked off the plane...?
In short this story stinks so many ways.
Good for AA. I would have been kicked off for it and you would have been kicked off for it, so some primadona also gets kicked off for it.
It's a simple blanket rule as the airline staff are not going to be able to check out all devices from all the passengers to see how/if when they could be in transmit mode.
Yes we all know that tons of devices get left on,and so yeah, perhaps the rule is BS when it comes down to it. However today, just for flying, that is the simple rule....
Frankly he should also be arrested and fined, like the rest of us would be.
I had just finished the "find the last space in the overhead locker " dance I heard an announcement reminding us to switch off all mobiles. I got my mobile out to switch it of only to be confronted by a steward shouting tha I should not be using my phone. My protest that I was switching it off was met by a threat to report me to the captain for refusing to stop using my phone.
Sometimes these rules are the perfect excuse for some little tit to abuse others and feel smug about it.
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