I think his comment is just to confirm that he is a looser of the first order!
Here we are again on iPhone day, and once more the world waits on the edge of its seat to see what the fruitchomp masterminds of Cupertino have in store. We'll tell you what they've got in store - and none of it's good. Without further ado, here are ten points you should ponder before you even think of buying a new iPhone 5. …
Tuesday 4th October 2011 15:23 GMT Anonymous Coward
What he's saying
is that anyone who is interested in value for money, usability and not conforming to one company's idea of how they should use their phone would, if making a rational decision, avoid the iPhone.
People prefer Pepsi to Coke when they can't see the packaging and Coke to Pepsi when they can see the packaging. For similar reasons, this 'debate' is going nowhere!
Tuesday 4th October 2011 16:06 GMT Frank Bough
Tuesday 4th October 2011 20:19 GMT Anonymous Coward
Actually, it is not generally true that people preferred Pepsi to Coke.
Based on a blind test which was very poorly managed, on average people chose Pepsi - which is not the same thing and is indicative of the question we were posed, not our preference.
I "took the challenge" and chose Coke. Pepsi tastes like soap - amazingly so did "New Coke" which was a fabulous market success - not?
I can think of 10 rational reasons to buy the iPhone.
Apple haters demonstrate what they are so often that it is boring to come to these forums. The fact of the matter is that you haters all hate success and want your shitty copy of iPhones to be better and keep finding useless reasons to demonstrate it.
It's a phone FFS, and 90% of phone users don't give a toss about the OS and think that an Android is that green guy in Star Trek
Tuesday 4th October 2011 16:26 GMT Ted Treen
Tuesday 4th October 2011 18:54 GMT sisk
I echo your each to their own sentiment on an intellectual level.
On on emotional level though, given Apple's bad behaviour the last couple years (suing people for using the term 'pod', dumping apps out of the app store for no apparent reason, being a general dick of a company) I would desperately love to see them crash and burn. I suspect a lot of people share my feelings on that. As to the rest....
"How many people mod their TV?"
Um...actually....Let's just say that the big projector at the back of the room was a TV in a previous life. Maybe that's has something to do with why I prefer Android.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 19:01 GMT Lars
Tuesday 4th October 2011 19:05 GMT sisk
I would add 3 and 8 to your list, although I'm sure that the iPhone 5 has a better antenna than the iPhone 4 did when it came out, so maybe just 3. That walled garden model is bad for everyone except Apple. It's bad for developers, it's really bad for consumers, and Apple happily rakes in the tons of cash from it.
Wednesday 5th October 2011 05:32 GMT Anonymous Coward
re: the problem is fragmentation
You can't compare a single manufacturer's product (the specs of which differ only with regard to memory size) with a lots of manufacturer's products.
Find a droid phone that works and stick with it. I suggest not going with a manfacturer known for doing proprietary gunk like sony, when picking an (more) open platform - the cultures don't sit well together.
And skype on a phone? Again, perhaps google's offerings might be a better bet. I can't seek skype lasting too long on android anyway, given the MS acquisition.
Wednesday 5th October 2011 06:27 GMT Originone
"If I tried to count the number of times I've run out of iPhone battery on my fingers, well, I'd fail to do so, as the current count is zero"
Count one on you fingers...okay got that? All right then, now retract that one finger you currently have extended so that you have no fingers extended. There you go, you just counted zero on your fingers. Not as difficult as you seem to think hey?
Wednesday 5th October 2011 08:49 GMT DrXym
Battery IS an issue
Every time Apple seals in the battery some apologist pops out of the woodwork to pretend it doesn't matter, or that Apple couldn't possibly have made the battery replaceable because the device is too thin.
And then along comes a competing device which does exactly that. e.g. Samsung's Galaxy SII is one of the thinnest phones around yet manages a replaceable battery. How does it manage this mind crushing feat? Popclips. The back can be removed and clipped securely into place.
How is it the alleged masters of industrial design can do likewise? The simple answer is they don't want to. A replaceable battery extends the life of a phone and we can't have that now can we? So Apple seals it in, and imposes a high price and ludicrous terms on their battery replacement service to ensure a healthy turnover of people junking an otherwise functional device for the latest model.
Wednesday 5th October 2011 10:48 GMT Anonymous Coward
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Ian 62
Full disclosure, I do NOT own an iPhone and can't afford one.
1) Fair point.. I don't NEED to change a battery but for some people it might be a nice thing to do.
2) It's in the cloud. Business models change. Not saying I trust my data in the cloud, but thats what theyre aiming for.
3) Walled garden as its pros and cons. Service, quality, security, reliability. But price, flexibility, ownership. Your mileage may vary, it depends what you intend to do with your phone. Me.. I dont want to think about finding the correct version of the correct app for the correct version of the correct OS for my version of my year of my phone. So if it tells me what version to install, and someone has vetted it first. I'm happy
4) We're not speculating on the performance of the previous model, you're listing reasons not to buy the model you havent tested yet. Its like saying dont buy this years titanic, the last one sank.
5) Everyone else has gone one? Everyone I know has a VW Golf, doesnt mean I shouldnt buy one if its good for my needs.
6) A celebrity endorsing a product puts you off? Hope you dont watch many TV adverts then, you wont have many products at all ever anywhere in the world to choose from.
7) A Ferrari has four wheels and an engine, very expensive for what it is.
8) The antenna was badly designed on the last one. Doesnt mean they wont fix it on this one.
9) Screen size, if I had a bucket of water I could figure out the volume of each device. I wonder if you make it thinner you have to make it fatter somewhere else? All that stuff has to go somewhere maybe in the last version Apple chose the screen bevel?
10) Wait.. Always Always Always wait. For the new car, for the new computer, for the new tv. Any gadget is overpriced and obsolete the day its made.
I'll give you 5/10. 5 'reasons not to buy', and 5 trolls.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Mondo the Magnificent
Now you've just given those in doubt 10 reasons why they should:
1 - Because they want one
2 - ElReg said they shouldn't, so they more than likely will
3 - It's oh, so fashionable
4 - It is in essence nothing more than the 5th generation Apple branded phone
5 - Graham Norton doesn't own one
6 - It's actually not that bad function wise as far as phones go
7 - People can get it cheaper with a contract renewal or a new contract
8 - The battery life on previous generations hasn't been exactly that bad either
9 - By default first time Apple iPhone owners become an App Store customer and iTunes user
10- A white version will be released in 6 months so they have a reason to "upgrade"
Pro's and con's aside, people will flock to the O2, 3, Vodafone and Phones4U stores to get their hands on this desirable little gadget. The "Antennagate" fiasco will not reflect on the new product as Apple (like most tech manufacturers) learn from their errors
I still think there's way too much hype around all things Apple, seriously 7 or 8 years back, most iPod owners didn't even know that Apple made "computers".. now it's a household name thanks to the media hype and this article is a sterling example of that "hype" :¬)
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Anonymous Coward
I have to say I agree with pretty much all the of the above points. After all you would buy a TV were only Sony could tell you which programmes you can watch, at what volume and for how long.
I will say, in all fairness. The original iphone in my opinion did break new ground and brought a lot to the mobile phone table. However since then the competitors have matched, surpassed and even embarrassed Apple with their answer.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Anonymous Coward
Interesting points you make there. Strangely, I've not had a particular issue with them over the last few blissful years if iPhone ownership and I suspect that when the iPhone 4S/5 appears they will continue to be irrelevant for me. I did briefly have a google phone but to be honest it was crap. Duff software, no upgrades or patches. And the battery thing....FFS have you seen how much they cost (and I mean for a genuine one that actually works). And to actually have to lug it about. No I'm fine thanks with fruity lockdown. Oh and the walled garden thing. Well it's a valid point and feel free to go your own way, but from what I can tell, Apple does a fine job of making developers money and handling all the tricky stuff like payment and currency conversion. So you know, it has it's upsides as well. Choose your poison and the like. Well must dash. Got to work myself up into a fanbio frenzy as the big announcement(s) get closer. Flame away
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Big_Boomer
Lewis, I love you!
Finally someone else speaks out against the iPoop.
Overpriced, underspecified, designer rubbish for the terminally gullible.
You will overpay for the phone, overpay for your airtime contract, and overpay for any apps.
When it was new it was a revelation w.r.t. having a moderately well designed user interface.
But now,...it's outclassed by almost everyone.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:57 GMT Turtle_Fan
Let the flame wars begin....
This would be better published on a Friday for added effect.
I was tempted to say "don't feed the troll" but it will undoubtedly go unheeded so flame away.
I for one, am squarely on the off-apple camp for very hardware-centric reasons. Those gadgets are just not spec'd right.... They're always behind the cutting edge regardless of all the "shiny" they claim to embody.
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:58 GMT theblackhand
While I'm sure you will get many upset responses....
That's a pretty fair list.
I'm fortunate to have test Android devices and iPhones at work and the Galaxy SII may have it's faults but it is a very nice phone when compared to the lump that is an iPhone. So far, everyone who has "tested" an iPhone and an Andorid phone for a fee weeks has opted for an Android although the userbase tends to be slightly more technical where no SD expansion or additional battery or iTunes is a deal breaker.
And if you're paying for a contract phone yourself, free on a cheap contract beats paying for a phone and an expensive contract...
Tuesday 4th October 2011 14:58 GMT Michael Habel
Ponit 1: Non-user replaceable Battery?
So that'll be down to the statuesque then.
I flippn hate Crapple as much as the next Android / Samsung loving fanboi that I'am.
But, really come on this is what you use choose to fire your first volley at?
If all those Fashiontards haven't managed to figure this much out for themselves yet that Crapple only OFFICIALLY sell disposables.
Then what hope is there left for this World?
What what about reason Number 11?
Crapple HATES Adobe?