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A Covent Garden designer ice cream parlour has earned itself a bust from Westminster council for punting potentially life-threatening breast milk ice cream. Municipal operatives relieved Icecreamists of its Baby Gaga blend of jub juice, vanilla pods and lemon zest, the Evening Standard reports. Brian Connell, Westminster's …

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Amused vegan is amused.

You don't like the idea of breast milk ice cream, but you're happy to consume the stuff that comes from the same bit of a farm animal?

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Re:Amused vegan is amused.

This raises another question, is breast milk vegan friendly?

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Had to say it,

What a tit.

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Was anyone else reminded of

The scene in Dr Strangelove where the insane general talks about the contamination "of our precious bodily fluids?"

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WTF?

Won't somebody think of the children...

Presumably, each of the "donors" is likely to be breastfeeding their own babies as well as providing the raw ingredients for the ice-cream. If the council are concerned about the health risks fully grown heathly adults voluntarily drinking the stuff then what about the health risks with it being force fed to vulnerable babies?

What's that doctor, ... you're saying that breast milk is actually safer for babies than processed cows milk?

Idiots.

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Re : Won't somebody think of the children...

"What's that doctor, ... you're saying that breast milk is actually safer for babies than processed cows milk?"

No - it's almost certainly not in general. It's certainly better for babies - modulo factors like toxic chemical pass-through or biological contamination - but safer as is ? No... part of the 'problem' people have pointed out with processed milk is that it's been so highly treated that hardly any self-respecting organism are going to want to be found alive in it, but the taste has become a poor substitute for the real thing in the process.

This whole story is a tale of ridiculously over-eager nannying, to be sure, but that doesn't make your comment any more correct.

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Hepatitus through Breastmilk?

There are no recorded transmissions of Hep B or C via breastmilk itself.

Only in cases where the nipple is cracked and bleeding are there possible issue and the immuno-agent within the breastmilk are KNOWN to sterilize HBV and HBC.

It is very easy to screen for diseases in breastmilk and frankly there are very few that can actually be present. This is 'Daily-Fail' rubbish that has led to the usual misconceptions and ignorance surround breastmilk.

Source: US CDC

Thanks Council for setting back our already ridiculously backwards ways.

Signed, The only mammalian species on earth that doesn't support and feed it's young from the milk it was intended to.

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That's udderly disgusting...

Looks like the council is lactose intolerant...

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@ Sampler

I hope you had a pair of Sunglasses and the who on standby before you delivered that line.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Intellectualism firmly taken for a long walk off a short pier

Is Mr O'Connor not simply milking the press here?

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This looks like a job for...

http://titsofdeath.com/

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(Written by Reg staff)

Re: This looks like a job for...

Haha! I know 'em well.

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Re: This looks like a job for...

I knew you knew them - sure doesn't FB make mutual friends of us all. Come to think of it, I ended up bringing a band across to play on the same bill at Hawkfest after a natter with Ms. G few years ago.

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Do you suppose

You know, just maybe, that this publicity seeking tit might be fibbing?

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all people are honest

a used car salesman told me so.

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Employment Opportunities

Perhaps the plan is for this to be the new job given to all the inner city unwed mothers. They can sit around at home with their screaming kids watching TV or playing Xbox whilst being milked to make this ice cream.

As long as the pop out one kid every 18 months they will keep producing milk so they have an excuse now.

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Supply

As far as I'm aware, women will keep producing as long as they're being milked.

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Yeach.

You know what rubbish those eat? Clearly this public wants organis mother's milk. So! That's not gonna fly.

And don't try to get away with it... a trace of chili in our dinner and the little one refuses to drink hours later, getting upset and agitated there's nothing for him except bad stuff.

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Quick send in Bat^h^hoobman

Dam.... I covered everything in the subject - had to be one.

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*ahem* @ CollyWolly

"We have messed up social standards when it is frowned upon to drink breast milk from your own species, yet it is all fine and dandy if it comes from a cows udder."

So by your standards it'd be fine for us to eat people rather than cows? ROFL!!!!

I see what you mean though, the thought crossed my mind as the thought of this is totally repugnant to me. One for the pervs I'd say, right next to the weird shoe shop. Surprised it wasn't shut down under the new "anything but missionary" anti-porn laws.

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@AC

"So by your standards it'd be fine for us to eat people rather than cows? "

Now there's an idea. The criminals can feed the homeless and do something worthwhile.

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There is reason

Why animals at the top of food chains usually don't consume meat or other bodily parts or excretions off individuals of the same species - a) transfer of disease and b) all the crap eaten by members of lower species in the food chain is concentrated at the top, so you get an extra dose of toxins, prions etc.

It is therefore unsurprising that most of people find the idea of breast milk ice cream or, say, human flesh hamburgers pretty unattractive. That is also why cannibalism is very rare (and always was rare) other than in extreme circumstances. We evolved to avoid it if at all possible.

As can be seen in things like incest, the manifestation of such evolutionary protection is the feeling of revulsion and disgust most of us experience at the mere thought of it.

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"Our donor was screened at a leading medical clinic "

Who is this women?

Either they have a *very* low interest in these flavors or she's *literally* a human milk cow.

IIRC a cow produces in the 10s of litres of milk a day.

And on the the science side *what* infections are expressed in human milk? AFAIK *some* ingested toxins can be passed to the baby through breast milk (metals, some prescription drugs) but viruses and bacteria?

Incidentally while the *source* of the milk is a bit unusual (not cow, goat, yak, camel) this does not it was not *fully* prepared by pasteurization as any other type.

Unusual. yes. Would I try it. Yes Inherently dangerous. No.

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So they went tits up then?

Feel free to downvote for bad punnage.

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Did anyone find themselves...

inexplicably thinking of their mother after sampling said ice cream? This could be great help in developing the familial solidarity necessary for Cameron's "big society"!

And if the local council is concerned about product safety, I am willing to oversee the milking process and inspect the "livestock" :)

Grabbing my coat before female reg readers start throwing stuff at me.....

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Sorry

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/06/pig-415x249.jpg

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Infections and such like

My youngest spent a while in hospital just after he was born, and they had a breast milk bank, where mothers could donate milk to assist other kids in the special care unit.

As I recall the milk was marked up, sent off for pasteurisation and some other tests, but was then fine to use. Why is this not acceptable outwith a hospital environment?

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Personally

I think they should be prosecuted by Trading Standards given that the milk was from one Victoria Hiley and not from Lady Gaga. And at £14 a portion, they might also get done by the FSA.

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one thing to look out for

Certain drugs due leech into breast milk. Meth, SSRIs, some hypertension meds. If the milk has been tested and assured to be drug free then no problem.

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It's a no-sale here

I like mine right from the tap, thanks.

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Re: Tried it myself. Ugh.

I haven't but my daughter (all of 3 weeks old) loves the stuff. No accounting for taste, is there?

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Oh dear....

Looks like my planned line of "chef's special sauce" flavour ice lollies would probably attract a similar level of dissaprobation from the general public and the Food Standards Agency.

Shame; I'm pretty sure I'd have had no shortage of willing volunteers to supply the raw ingredients and I'd have made a fortune flogging them from a van outside the local police station.

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Screening for diseases + Drugs is not easy

The difference is cows milk is relatively uniform. We know exactly what the cow has eaten and what drugs have been used.

It does not matter that the human milk has been pasteurized, although most most pathogenic bacteria will be killed, a number of organisms have heat resistant prions and spores. This is not to mention drugs (including those over the counter)

Take weed which a large proportion of the population take (the active component THC is transfered to breast milk were it is10x more concentration than in the blood). Most mums would not smoke, but note everyone has the same morale standard

As a former transfusion scientist I know these things are not easy to screen for, some currently impossible (for high throughput or to be cost effective). Its why blood transfusions have an opt out policy, as things like HIV are not detectable for upto 6 months after infection.

We are able to drink cows milk with little fear as they live under controlled conditions and the risk of interspecies disease small. Trouble is with commercial breast milk there are thousands of potential diseases and your relying on the honesty of the provider.

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