you yanks still allow...
primitive organised animal baiting?
and is it a bigger or smaller draw then the dancing bear or pig faced boy?
SeaWorld killer killer whale must die, Bible insists
The revelation that Tilikum - the killer whale which last week lived up to its species' name by killing SeaWorld trainer Dawn Brancheau - had killed before, prompted much debate as to whether the tragedy could have been avoided. In 1991, Tilikum was involved in the death of Keltie Byrne at an aquarium in Victoria, British …
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Thursday 4th March 2010 14:41 GMT Anonymous Coward
Look....
If two swallows are flying south in the same direction, each carrying a coconut....In order to maintain airspeed velocity...
Bottom Line: These people that think things like this never held a KILLER whale captive. And, since when did they become the great interpreters of the book....please.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 15:05 GMT adnim
Wild animal...
kills two humans. Not entirely unexpected, considering the animal my have been stressed in such an unnatural environment. I am sure if this whale was aware of the ten commandments he would have acted differently.
I think he needs a bigger place to live, preferably the ocean if he is able to survive out there.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 15:16 GMT Anonymous Coward
No obvious answer
To release it is to sentence it to a slow death by starvation, but primarily dehydration. It was captured young and will never be able to feed itself nor join a wild pod if released. And if it tried to find some humans to feed it, and got pissed off with them when they turned out not to have a bucket of fish handy, well, that's not going to turn out well, is it?
Having it put down, in the US, would be likely to cause a bigger outcry from the animal rights lobby than actually letting it kill someone again.
Clearly this should be enough to prompt a ban on capturing wild animals, and on making wild animals perform.
The only solution I can think of is to shut down the performances forever and turn the park area into a larger exhibit to let the current animals live out their lives.
But yes, I think Seaworld should be culpable for this death.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 15:51 GMT Sarah Davis
A Brilliant Idea !!
I think this idea is utterly brilliant, and completely foolproof, providing it is carried out by the religious entusiasts who suggested it. They should be allowed to take a bag of rocks each and then all of them should jump in the pool (without breathing apperatus - it's expensive and could get damaged) with the 'killer' killer and throw their rocks with all their might - it's just such a fantastic concept! What could go wrong?
In fact i think it's such an amazing idea, i think they should have monthly tryouts. Round up a bunch of religious. Tie a sack of rock to their wastes, and have them jump in the pool to stone the whale.
I'm sure that god (if she exists) will arrange for their succes, unless she thinks they're a bunch of ..., in which case she could have the whale smite them.
I'm sure animal lovers and the anti-religious can see the providence in this plan. Lets get it green lighted a.s.a.p.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 16:17 GMT Remy Redert
@Jai
It's not impossible to stone the Orca to death, even if it's on the bottom of the pool. All you need to do is starting throwing your stones from low earth orbit. They will then impacts with sufficient speed to cause serious damage to anything nearby.
Do note, you may need some fairly big rocks for this, but since you're throwing them in micro gravity, throwing shouldn't be a problem.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 16:59 GMT Anonymous Coward
Erm
If you throw the stones when in low Earth orbit, they will just be in low Earth orbit with you.
Sure, it will gradually get lower in its orbit (well, its perigee will) as the slight atmospheric drag will slowly bring it down, like a lost tool bag, and if it does manage to make it through the atmosphere not entirely ablated it would require huge luck to land anywhere near the ficinity of said whale.
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Thursday 4th March 2010 18:41 GMT Anonymous Coward
nothing to see here
someone spends a few weeks digging thru a conservative/faith site, finds something that fits their prejudice, and tries to make big headlines from it.
In other news, there was a shooting in Oakland. And somewhere a Chinese guy scammed someone.
Won't even go into how many young men of a single religious belief are sent with explosives on their back into crowded schoolyards and markets as far away from military and police targets as they can get....
I wonder if i can submit the racist and tasteless comments from HuffPo and DKOS and get a whole bit of "look how stupid they are" responses?
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Thursday 4th March 2010 18:41 GMT bubbalouise
free tilly
amusing about the bible people who think animals are designed for their abuse.the bible was written by humans to keep other humans frightened and enslaved..there is no big daddy in the clouds with a big deep voice. Keeping whales and dolphins in teacups for profit is cruel. Tilly was taken from the wild twenty years ago and carted around to unnatural places for the amusement of idiots. FREE TILLY.... Those who tell you he can't survive ..that they are sooooo concerned that he can't survive in the wild...are full of poo or have a financial interest in continuing animal abuse. it's quite simple really..good boy Tilly..FREE THEM ALL. Did you know that the Sea world trainers who just LOOOOOVE the animals..beat tilly bloody with huge crowbars to get him to release the so-called trainer's totally , obviously dead body? Did you want to see that video? too real for you?
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Thursday 4th March 2010 18:43 GMT John 98
You cant eat the whale - taint kosher
Bible bashers (of either kind) should kindly note whales aint kosher so perhaps the best answer is to set it free and then sue the company - IMHO they deserve it.
And wearing my theological hat - tough on the ox but it encourages the owner to keep dangerous stock under control and if you ignore complaints you just might (maximum penalty) end up dying with your victim. Would sure make drink drivers think. Sense or superstition?
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Thursday 4th March 2010 18:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
Aha!!--but what if....
the Tillikum was merely trying to re-enact the Book of Jonah!
I'd say that instead of being killed, perhaps the whale should be canonized.
More seriously, releasing a "domesticated" killer whale will only end up with the whale starving. Its best to just phase out the capture of killer whales and let the current captives age gracefully in their current environments. Dolphins are perhaps not such a big deal, because they are much smaller and you can conceivably capture an existing social group and keep them together in captivity.
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Friday 5th March 2010 10:22 GMT Anonymous Coward
The clue is in the name....
It's a "Killer" whale.......duh
So essentially what is being said is that the whale should be put to death in order to appease the god-botherers imaginary friend? Personally I'd rather get rid of the god-botherers as I'm pretty sure it'd make the world a better place.
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Friday 5th March 2010 13:09 GMT lukewarmdog
"It's in the name"
No it's not really. It's name is Tilly and it's an Orcinus orca. I could call my hamster a killer hamster but wouldn't make it so. Even if it did kill someone it wouldn't make the genus killers.
If the whales were known as killers of humans before they captured it, locked it in a small tank and forced it to perform tricks then the blame couldn't be really placed on the animal now could it?
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