Difference between self-defense, hate, and genocide
@Alan Johnson Posted Monday 18th May 2009 17:48 GMT
"Self defence is killing people who are a threatening to kill you. Mr Savage was advocating killing 100 Million muslims."
You are misrepresenting the statement. According to the quote you provided, Mr. Savage brought up a hypothetical situation where his listeners "claimed there to be 1 billion psychotic muslims in the world" so Mr Savage suggested killing 1/10th of them.
When hypothetical psychotic people are trying to wipe you out, killing 1/10th of hypothetical psychotics is not self defense? Actually, it is not. Killing 1 billion hypothetical psychotics who are trying to kill you is self defense.
From your quote, Mr. Savage's response was not even an eye-for-an-eye, was not close to defense, was not even close to revenge. Killing 1/10th of an aggressors who is trying to actively exterminate you is referred to compassionate at the stake of their own well being.
"There is not even one muslim country in the world with which we or the US is in conflict and 100 million would imply killing everyone, men, women and children not just combatants"
There are no Muslim countries. A Country can not believe in a faith. People believe in faith.
If you go across the Central Asia, Middle East and North Africa, you will note varying levels of adherence to Islam... 90%, 70%, 99%. There is a way they got there - to genocide the existing communities until they no longer exist.
How is this done?
By making sure every man, woman, and child is labeled as a Muslim, Christian, New or other on their birth certificates & passports. If a Muslim changes their adherence from their label, they are killed.
Why are they killed? Because it it against the law to convert from Islam, punishable by death.
When governments are taken over through military coups and Islamic law is applied to a region of people, they are forced to all look like adherents, forced to speak the language of the aggressor, their culture is eliminated.
If you are not a Muslim in these countries, you have fewer rights under the law. These fewer rights encourages people to become adherents and change their labels.
In United Nations terminology - what is happening is referred to as Genocide.
"There are many many times more Muslims killed by Jews and Christians than there are Jews and Christians killed by Muslims."
This is a very miopic statement.
You need to include the Animists and holders of pagan faiths to get a clearer understanding.
Just looking at the population statistics across Central Asia, Middle East, and Northern Africa demonstrates this to be incorrect.
Nearly every major war that has been running for generations across the globe has terrorist Muslims who are trying to gain control of an area where they can genocide the local people group through the application of Islamic Law and forced conversion to Islam.
The common Muslim does not really want this, they are victimized almost as much as the non-Muslim, but because they are victimized less, they are fearful to speak up and place their families at risk - because they know the result is genocide for them.
"If someone did this would you defend their 'right' to travel to the US or UK to do so?"
Your position to defend global genocide, endorse suppression of local Muslim populations, and persecute those who speak in their defense is deplorable.
Biting the hand that feeds IT
