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A social networking site has deleted most of its users over the age of 36 because it claims older users pose a danger of sex offending. It claims to be forced into the action by the Government, but the part of a law it cites is not yet in force. Faceparty has deleted what it describes as "a huge number of accounts" from its …

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  1. Bruce Leyden
    Coat

    Gang of Paedophiles

    Lol - "Gang of Paedophiles". Great name for a band. Think of the free publicity. Hello, is that the Daily Mail? Yes, I'd like to take out a full-page ad for our upcoming album. Yeah, it's called "The Kids Are Gonna Love Us".

    Mine's the tatty mac with the pair of binoculars in the pocket.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    Dammit!

    Why did nobody tell me it's the norm to a kiddy fiddler from 36 onwards, I've missed out on 3 years!

    Quick, someone pass me a toddler, I have some catching up to do!

    Okay, more seriously... Faceparty... TWATS!

  3. Campbell
    Stop

    Don't understand

    All the comments here about lying about age, multiple email addreses etc are perfectly valid, what I can't understand is why the hell ordinary Joes, like us, can see this yet those we have elected to do the job seem totally oblivious to the real world.

    Is having your brain removed the prime requisite for a politician these days?

  4. davenewman
    Dead Vulture

    Age discrimination law

    All providers of services come under all our discrimination laws, including age discrimination. It is likely that their action is illegal.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Hypocrites

    Link of the home page:-

    http://www.faceparty.com/grimrita/default.aspx

    I don't thing the content could be considered suitable for the 2 preteen kids in the picture. Judging by the content of the emails I get from "Grim Rita" to my faceparty account I'd say Faceparty were the perverts

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Mixed messages

    "Use our Undercover Agent to find out who keeps visiting your profile, who thinks you're a Honey and snoop to see who's added you to their friend list!"

    Undercover.

    Honey.

    Snoop.

    Sex.

    With.

    Young.

    People.

    I'd never visited the site but after 10 seconds I realised I'd seen it all before. It's full of nauseating, egomaniacal teens gagging to be noticed by the opposite sex.

    This is sanctimonious squirming at its very best.

  7. John H Woods Silver badge

    How are you supposed to monitor your kids pages?

    I am on Bebo (I'm 108, because I'd never give the f*ckw*ts my real d.o.b.) purely so I can see what pictures my horny little minx of a daughter has put up so I can issue her with a friendly takedown notice. Having seen some of her friends sites I can confirm that most parents do not have a clue what their children are doing on line --- it is THIS that makes children vulnerable.

  8. neil
    Paris Hilton

    Logan's Run

    Where are the Sandmen

  9. Kanhef
    Joke

    Easier solution

    Ban everyone under 18. No more kids to worry about.

    Oh, wait, that's 90% of their market.

  10. Steve Mann

    @ Much simpler means of "protecting ickle childy wildren" (tm) Anon Cow

    Er, according to your clause three everyone would have to become some sort of paedo, then get caught at it before they could apply to join a social networking site.

    Of course, that would make everything more clear cut, and is where this story began if you think about it.

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    Only 3 years to go then

    Guess i'd better face the inevitable.

    See you guys down by the playground.

  12. John Murgatroyd

    So ?

    Does that mean that practically every woman will be a crook now ?

    After all, it is considered ok for women to be younger in conversation than they are in years.

    As for why those we have elected to do the job not being able to see the wood for the trees.....

    Politicians are thick, as in T H I C K , when they want to be. Let others do what they want them to, then they do not need laws.....so when the sex offences by inet users do not drop, some other reasoning will be used to restrict someone elses freedom.

    Since when did this gov give a monkeys ass about laws, they've broken most of them themselves.

  13. Stewart Haywood
    Flame

    'Ang on a minute

    I have never looked Faceparty before you mentioned it. I don't want to look at it again.

    Now, I realize that at 56 I am obviously very dangerous and may corrupt the morals of young people and should therefore be banned, but, when I was a kid, I was protected from things like this http://www.faceparty.com/grimrita/ by not allowing me to see them, not by banning people of my present age from seeing them.

    It is interesting that every page on Faceparty (I have only looked at two pages, it was enough) has something that would offend people. Faceparty is allowed to continue. A kid who calls the Scientology Cult a cult is in trouble. Some poor publican who advertises his bar as "now straight" is in trouble and anyone over 36 is a pervert. Apart from Gordon and his palls, what is wrong with England?

  14. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Lack of FaceParty

    I am on FP (Least I was till they deleted my account) and yet I'm under 36.

    So are they classing me as a potential sex offender?

    Also, they mention this in their little ditty...

    "Anarchy Towers did not opt to buy your account:

    The original crew behind Faceparty and the inventors of the online community (Anarchy Towers) is taking control of the website again. That means this is gonna be the best site on the web, just as it was for every year they were in control in the past. Anarchy Towers is NOT legally obliged to purchase all of the member accounts from CIS Internet Ltd, and nor does it intend to. Your contract with CIS Internet Ltd ends with the closure of CIS Internet Ltd. Anarchy Towers can only afford to buy a certain number of accounts - there is most likely nothing personal in it, we can only buy what we can afford.

    Faceparty was set up as a youth entertainment portal. Anarchy Towers will not be purchasing profiles of people who use the website for the wrong reasons (ie porn hosting, spamming, older men using the website solely to look at younger people naked, to steal Faceparty's resources by using it as a dating site for the over 50s because they don't want to pay for match.com etc) and similarly members who have not been using their account at all will not be purchased. Older users who use the site for the right reasons may be invited to stay. With so many millions of members, it isn't possible to address accounts individually so certain group data-cuts will be made. We apologise if you are cut-out if you genuinely belong here, but you are welcome back in the future.

    No member has any legal "right" or "entitlement" to be purchased by Anarchy Towers Ltd."

    Great.. I'm an apparant sex offender

  15. David Simpson
    Pirate

    contacts.....

    Most people i know use faceparty as a contact site, mainly to set up sex parties and other swinging type activities, Poor over 36ers you are now offically overy the hill.

    Since when did faceparty become a social network ? It always seemed pretty obvious it was a swinging site even down to the paid for saucy pictures

  16. Alan W. Rateliff, II
    Paris Hilton

    Best way to protect users

    My new business pitch: a social networking website which is guaranteed not to fall prey to sex offenders using it troll for kiddies -- by having no users at all! This is a million dollar idea.

    Paris, guaranteed not to fall prey to sex offenders.

  17. Jim Jupiter

    Who knew?

    I'm 38. I suppose I'll go turn myself in.

  18. Shabble

    Watching us, watching you, watching us

    The government clearly plans to start monitoring everything we do online, either directly or indirectly. If they didn't, they wouldn't have bothered to pass the legislation, and they wouldn't be planning to keep this info:

    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/telecoms/article3965033.ece

    Before the internet, there was no effective way to actually police people's thoughts. Heavy handed states like Stalin's USSR and Hitler's Germany had to recruit evangelical supporters to root out people with 'antisocial' ideas or oblige normal citizens to grass up their 'subversive' or 'terrorist' neighbours so as to avoid going to the Gulags themselves. But technology allows us to do things we never thought would be possible.

    From now on, if you post anonymously on a site like El Reg the opinion that, say, Scientology is a cult, (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1997376/Boy-faces-court-for-Scientology-placard.html)

    BT's secret monitoring system will pick up the phrases and inform the police. The police then search the archives of your online activities, build a case against you (you've criticised the Pope in other posts) and before you know it, you've got size fourteen boots kicking your door in. A few weeks later you're in prison for having the temerity to publicly disagree with an idea on the government's list of officially sanctioned beliefs.

    Please vote against New Labour at the next General Election.

  19. Neil Bradley

    Farceparty

    Apparently, the age-limit was set at 36 because Mr. Andrew David Bamforth who has some control (or lack of) over the website is currently 35 years old. Now he can't ban himself from the website now can he? ;)

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    Hmmmme

    Isn't Jacqui Smith over 36?

  21. peter
    Stop

    The owners of faceparty

    I've never heard of faceparty, but wanted to checkout the twats, and keep it real, in with the youth, no facist parents, or society moaners.

    http://www.faceparty.com/account/join.aspx

    Faceparty admission is now strictly by invitation only ...Name's not down? Ya' not comin' in!

    With our doors open to everyone, this site was attracting too many spammers, fakers, pervs, liars, haters, nobs, pedos, over-50's-using-it-as-a-dating-site-cos-they-have-to-pay-for-match.com's, and most of all... too many friggin' moaners! We'd spend all day deleting them, but alas (aarrggghh!) they'd only return the next day. Not anymore... problem solved. Hooray!

    ...and besides, we'd rather be the best than the biggest.

    You need to be invited by someone-in-the-know ...and you certainly won't be getting a password by pestering us, so please stop! We gotta get tough, cos if we're not, this place 'aint gonna rock... and if there's one last thing on this crazy planet we're gonna do? it's see this place ROCK!

    Yay!!! Type that supa-secret password in the box below, between the hours of midnight and 1am, to go to the new member application form. You will need a digital photo of yourself in order to join.

    I hereby do declare, and solemnly swear, that I won't act like a prick, I'm not a judgemental fool, I believe in racial and sexual equality, I'm not a pedo, I've not lied about my age, I'm not a spammer, I won't nick anyone's pics, I will never refer to faceparty as a "social network"*, I will never call Faceparty "Facebook" by mistake, I will try my hardest not to moan all the time, I'm not a cam whore (nor a faker), I will perform at least one practical joke every 38 days... and most importantly, I genuinely value love before money (at least when I'm on 'ere, anyway). Amen.

    I acknowledge that Faceparty was the world's first online community - that it's still here (if not a little ruff around the edges) and still hasn't sold out despite offers of 100s of millions, cos it's far more important that there's at least one thing on Earth that isn't owned by "the man", where we can all truly be ourseves and not just another digit on a bank statement.

    Go on, give us a big hug, and get ur fat ass in here...

    Welcome aboard! ...you're in for one hell of a ride ;)

    * Faceparty is a community, which is the absolute opposite of a Social Network. There'll be no social climbing here ...we're all equally rubbish and we certainly don't give a f*ck about what you do for a living, or rate you by how many 'linked friends' you've clicked on, so leave any ideas of 'networking' at the door - we're only interested in your big heart, participation and personality ...and if you dont feel you've got one of those, we'll give you one :P

    END

    Is this some giant windup because it sounds like an old guy who wants pictures, to keep it all secret and trying to "identify" with the kids.

    I just hope whomever invests in this has very, very good legal services.

  22. Mark

    What a crock

    Anybody remember the little ditty "God is mad"?

    A message from your leader,

    I'll make it short and sweet,

    Death will come at midnight,

    To those who wear false teeth...

    Scary that this amusing piece of parody makes at least as much sense as a policy FascistParty are apparently serious about.

  23. Neil Bradley
    Thumb Down

    Responsible?

    The website is now carrying illustrations apparently designed by users of the site.

    What sort of message does this one send out?

    http://www.faceparty.com/im/wymo_mpuh.gif

  24. Craig
    Unhappy

    Sanity...

    Years ago I realized I was the only sane person left on the planet, and every day I see more evidence to support my theory...

  25. Jeremy
    Black Helicopters

    A bit like Logans Run ?

    Remember that movie where everyone must die at a certain age ?

    RENEWAL RENEWAL RENEWAL RENEWAL !

    (There is no sanctuary!)

  26. Anonymous Coward
    Gates Horns

    Yeah like Faceparty is soooooo clean!

    Being merely a Faceparty spectator I see my colleagues using it regularly. Judging by the "interesting" pics some of the ladies have on their profiles Faceparty is another online-shag-arranging tool. Hardly in the same relatively innocent league as Beebo! In fact, judging by what I have seen, I would have expected under 18's to be banned from Faceparty!

  27. Steve Roper
    Black Helicopters

    Yet another aspect of 1984...

    ... remember "oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc"? If you're over 36, you were born before the era of "political correctness" and therefore have these old-fashioned notions about evil things called "freedom", "civil liberties", "justice" and "equality". These concepts are CRIMETHINK, and those exposed to them are Enemies of the Party.

    Of course, this is just the thin end of the next wedge, but given where this world is going, we can expect all oldthinkers to become suspect over the coming few years...

  28. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    Idiots

    I've never used Faceparty. I've never looked at it. I have no intention of ever going anywhere near it.

    But for some reason this makes me pissed off. Reading http://www.faceparty.com/missing_account.aspx didn't exactly improve my mood.

    I'm not sure if it's the lies about their members, the complete misrepresentation of the law, the way they treated their members (especially the ones who paid) or their other excuses that annoy me the most.

    I suspect the reality is something to do with being nu media idiots who are trying to re-target a failing business and haven't got a clue how to actually do it. Though this does seem to include liquidating the prior holding company and doing a phoenix with the same directors etc. to give a get-out from existing contracts. While simultaneously grabbing a whole load of subscription cash and cutting running costs to almost nothing.

    Much as I'd like to pay a visit to them their address seems like it's a virtual office. And other details are a bit thin, though Andrew Bamforth is at least a constant presence and easier to contact.

    I guess their introduction to harsh reality will have to come in the form of the backlash to their actions. Clearly they've managed to destroy their core business and do a truly great PR job at the same time.

    Certainly I don't see much profitability in their future if the current efforts are representative of their talents.

    I look forward to the ongoing fallout and potential libel actions from ex-members.

  29. Martin Usher

    But they're not all over 36...

    We've just had a local case, a fairly nasty one (teacher/youth worker, sex with minor and so on). The puerp was 29. So there.

    From where I stand (at the threshold of geezerdom) anyone under 40 looks young. Sigh.

  30. Mathew White
    Thumb Down

    Guess that pedophiles never lie online, especially about their age.

    I sense sour grapes at the government here, trying to garner a bit of publicity and maybe foster a backlash against the governments approach to protecting the little ones.

    Interestingly they have set the age watershed at a point where it discriminates against the parents of their teenage users.

    But honestly, do we really need more social networking sites? I feel these adults have been spared a fate worse than death.

  31. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    @steve mann

    I think it was relatively clear that I meant that IF YOU ARE A SEX OFFENDER IT SHOULD BE AN OFFENCE, etc.

    You're not a politician are you?

    There are laws in place already to prevent sex offenders and List 99 inductees from avoiding declaring their status. Move it online and the job's done.

  32. Cameron Campbell-Brown

    Thin edge of the wedge...

    First it's social networking sites we.. err they can't go to.. then it's social venues, then... soon enough we have... LOGAN'S RUN!!!

    And I was scared of 1984 becoming reality

  33. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    36th birthday => 35 years old

    You people got your math wrong.

    The 36th birthday is the day one turns *35* years old.

    The 36th *anniversary* on the other hand is the day one turns 36 years old.

  34. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Anyone over 36 is using these sites???

    I am rather surprised that there is anybody over the age of 36 who uses social networking sites. Only immature people use such sites. Oh well, I guess age is no guarantee for maturity.

  35. Cameron Campbell-Brown

    Oh dear...

    I just realised, by remembering Logan's run... I've inadvertedly admitted my age and therefore my status as a sex offender...

    *Turns off his computer and waits...*

    I have no idea how many finger you are holding up...

  36. Fuion
    Pirate

    Funny.

    With my now clear vision I can see:

    Faceparty ---> Smoking Crack

    Crack Kills ---> Faceparty Dies

    We can all be assured that this "Crack Epidemic" will soon cease to exist.

  37. JC

    Brilliant!

    With bright sparks like these making decisions, all we need now is to ban everyone under 37 and the fears should be completely eliminated!

    To claim the government made 'em do it, what a crock.

  38. TMISv2

    Won't somebody think of the children!!111one

    Looks like using an ICBM to crack a walnut again, as seems the current tradition with fear and hysteria-fuelled policy.

  39. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gasp!

    So that's why I suddenly couldn't log in a few months ago. Over the hill even at 44!

    As CTO of several social networking sites for Eastern Europe and Russia, such as tugeza.ru and ce-faci.ro. I had an account on fbox for research purposes, but the ignorance and sheer vulgarity on display in this ASBO sanctuary really made me despair. The contrast of standards with Russian and East European youth could not be more stark. Britain is sliding into the gutter and I'm glad I got a good education there while I still could!

    Anyway, since when has a 10-20-30 year age difference between consenting adults actually been an offence? Age difference a much smaller barrier in other countries.

    I met my partner on a dating site in Budapest 4 years ago with no such restrictions and she is 11 years younger than me. Could never meet such a beautiful and sweet person in that Neasden of Europe they call Britain!

    Andy.

  40. Don
    Black Helicopters

    Blind Faith

    Need a Ben Elton icon.

  41. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Errrr

    From the terms and conditions page:

    "The Faceparty Services sites are general purpose sites and are designed for use by individuals that are 16 years of age or older."

    Why are they banning over 36's for being paedophiles again....?

  42. Tom Austin
    Thumb Down

    What with being 43...

    ...and having never fancied kids in any shape or form in my life (too small, too dumb, never able to pay when it's their round, that kind of thing), I'm obviously a little behind the whole 36-Paedo-Party thing.

    (Ooh. Wait. Did I really type that? "...little behind..." Did you see what I did there? What was that: a freudian-slip type thing?)

    FFS. Really, sarcasm aside, words fail me.

    (But thanks for the Logan's Run reference, people. Even have still fond memories of the utterly dire TV series...)

  43. simon maasz
    Paris Hilton

    Stunt.

    Publicity stunt. I note pay-per-month for over-18 area of site. Looks like a pseudo-porno site.

    Paris, cos she's far too sophisticated for Faceparty

  44. Big Al
    Thumb Down

    Re: Yet another aspect of 1984...

    All in all, doubleplus ungood

  45. Jon Lamb
    Heart

    Lying about age, now a sex offence ?

    "Unfortunately some of the creators of accounts who were deleted, of an older age group, have been creating new accounts with a younger age (which means that government legislation classifies them as a sex offender by lying about their age on the Internet"

    Some dating sites I've seen must have a fair amount of sex offenders on them then!

  46. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    @Fluffykins

    I think the article was about Faceparty

  47. Paul Lingwood
    Coat

    what do I do??!??

    ... I'm 34 .. I've only got two years left! ... I don't wanna be a sex offender! .. please ... someone ... do something!

  48. Peter Thomas
    Paris Hilton

    BT Broadband thinks differently...

    From http://www.btbroadbandinformation.com/glossary/faceparty/

    "Originally for those in their teens and late twenties, Faceparty is a community networking web site that’s now popular with all ages over 16. You can meet like-minded people and make new friends online."

    Paris, because she's the optimum age, and is in no way a bad influence on young impressionable adults.

  49. Anonymous Coward
    Coat

    Faceparty

    Went to the site for the first time ever and this was the first thread I saw advertised on the home page.

    http://www.faceparty.com/gossip/thread.aspx?topic=19186

    Yuk!

    Mine's the full length flasher mac (I am after all over 36)

  50. Burch

    *faps*

    "Karl Molloy (35) met the girl on dating site Faceparty, where she initially claimed to be 16, and persuaded her to text him indecent pictures of herself."

    http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=156130&command=displayContent&sourceNode=242285&home=yes&more_nodeId1=156139&contentPK=20615736

    Now he'd be alright.

    From another article:

    "It is not the legal right of a 70 year old to claim right to a young person's service. Furthermore, it is not your right as a 50 year old to steal the bandwidth of our youth portal because you don't want to pay for match.com."

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/news/2008/05/22/Faceparty-Identifies-Sexual-Predators-Bans-Over-36s/p1

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