Jacqui Smith un-downgrades cannabis

Jesus wept

Will the last person to leave please turn out the lights.

Lethal, must be banned...

OK, lethal drugs in common use :

Sodium Chloride : deadly in high volumes.

Oxygen diHydrogenate : Excess consumption causes some sort of osmosis issue as your cells try to osmose through the cell walls. (is osmose a word?)

Nitrogen : Breathing pure nitrogen for more than a few minutes is deadly.

All of these are probably lethal in smaller doses than the amount of grass you need to smoke to die.

Can someone please ask the government to promote these dangerous drugs to class B as well before more people get killed by them.

Sort of a joke, I really would LOVE to see the government make salt, water or about 80% of the atmosphere illegal.

ffs #2

gateway drug???

funny - im sure i smoked tobacco and drank booze before starting weed etc? :) AND come to think of it im sure i ate chocolate before doing all those! (chocolate gives a much weaker effect of cocaine btw)

and btw - in prison everyone does heroin, as its out the system in 3 days, not 4 weeks+. so sending space cadets to jail will just turn them into smack heads... well done!

a lot of my mates out of town who struggle to score find themselves drinking more booze, which we all know if fine... oh, i mean taxable :)

Release date

Just wondering if there's an official release date for the end of idiotic reefer madness.

As far as I know, there are no documented cases of pot EVER being lethal, regardless of how much has been ingested.

I no longer smoke weed, but I support a new, revolutionary policy:

"How about we just leave people the fu@k alone if they're not harming anyone?"

Government and Science

This was always going to happen, it's an easy vote winner for a dying party.

"We're tough on drugs!!" Yeah, wotevva Gord.

Interesting article in the Observer this weekend about how the Government ignores the Scientific Evidence and makes up their own results.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/04/drugsandalcohol.drugspolicy

am i honestly bothered?

suck my LETHAL SKUNK stuffed bong you stupid little woman

Oh dear .......another fine mess

Surely the reclassification proposal has yet to be passed by a parliamentary vote, or is it possible for a personal whim to change legislation in a democracy which would disagree with a proposal.

Can we expect all instances of possession punishment to be the same or will that be a lottery, and therefore one would presume quite unfair/inequitable and illegal under the law, which proposes to treat everybody equally, and is confiscation of stash accompanied by an official receipt identifying the officer responsible or are they free to do as they please with no official record being available to the owner, of who pockets it. That would be a big temptation which would be too great, to far too many, for them to resist .... and it would be naive to think otherwise..... for it is just like pocketing cash, pocketing stash.

And so much for Gordon's Listen and Learn strategy .....in gay tatters before it has even begun but then they are forced to spin tales in order to hide earlier tales, and what a Panic there'll be whenever a new Admin takes over at No 10 and asks for the Books and Secrets of Office. I wonder if we'll hear tales similar to this doozy ....

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/07/dubya_email_backups_dont_exist/ .... which of course, would be quite unbelievable in this day and age, right, and would give valid reason to suspect criminal activity?

This page,..... http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4764.html ... about an iconic working class hero we surely all know and who is admired around the world, gives one a better insight into the Government's Fears ..... and its main hosting site is an education too.

One does wonder why we suffer such a pantomime/comedy of errors and give them the time of day, let alone allow them to feather their nests from the Public Purse and thinking to Lead grown Ups rather than Administer to their Needs.

They are just not Well enough equipped Intellectually for that Task.

"Brown knows he'll be out in 2010 and there's nothing you can do to stop him having his way with your mother in the meantime." ... By Mycho Posted Wednesday 7th May 2008 14:14 GMT

A General Strike and/or Concerted Civil DisObedience to show him the Nation's Displeasure are all Legitimate Avenues in any Society, Democracy or Otherwise so it is very easy to remove the Cuckoo from the Nest, and they would be unable to remain in Office without calling for a Mandate, which by the Way, the country never gave to Brown and his Gang.

it's almost 4:20 and time to roll one up in honour of Jackie Smith

who sincerely believes that anybody gives a crap how she chooses to classify cannabis.

Even the police have made it clear that they won't be changing their policies whatever the government do.

Gordon Brown has demonstrated that he isn't going to let the facts as ascertained by his own advisory committee get in the way of what he regards as a policy that will win him the hearts of the Daily Wail readership.

Mines the one with the bong hanging out of the pocket.

Just another scam

Obviously just another way for them to put even more of our hard-earned money in their pockets (Class C-> Class B = bigger fine = more for MPs to skim) - they certainly can't put us all in prison because the prisons are already full of cannabis users ...

Gordon can FOAD

I smoke weed. I'm director of an engineering firm.

All this 'lethal skunk' nonsense is the most complete and utter bag of bullsh*t I've ever heard- just look out of the window on any friday or saturday night; it's quite clear that out of all the popular recreational drugs in the UK, alcohol causes the most damage to individuals, property and society.

Drunks fight, smash things up, and if they regularly drink to excess, severely damage their liver.

Cannabis smokers giggle, watch a little TV, have deep thoughts and eat snacks.

Ecstacy droppers aquire a taste for sometimes terrible dance music, chew lots of gum and love everyone and everything.

I know which I would prefer the youth of Britain to NOT do every weekend.

In any case, as far as I'm concerned the government has absolutely NO authority over what I or anybody else put into or do to our own bodies. If somebody gets a thril from inserting wasps into their rectum, good luck to them. If somebody wants to take huge quantities of coke and tell everyone else within a mile how ace they are, good luck to them. If, however, someone wants to steal and punch people in the face (i.e harm others) then THAT is what the police are there for.

Before someone on here starts bleating about 'drain on the NHS'- what do we all pay our taxes for in the first place; and why do you not bleat about the 'drain' caused by injuries sustained by participants in extreme sports for example? Just a thought.

If only stupidity were lethal "too"

Maybe this way moronic politicians' heads like GB's would implode and stop sending idiotic messages to the people....

@Liam - The Political party 'no bollocks, we'll listen'

You've got an MP for York,

Gordon = Fail again

Gordon shows once again he shouldn't be in a position of power. I smoke weed on fairly on a regular basis. I work hard for a living and I pay a lot of tax. I don't smoke tobacco or drink alcohol (besides the odd social pint once or twice a month after work). I don't run around committing any real crimes but I do like to have a smoke play some computer games eat junk food and chill out in the privacy of my own home. A lot of the people I work with also do the same thing, purely in their own home on their own time and are some of the nicest people you could ever hope to meet.

Now me and people like me who work hard keep themselves to themselves, pay taxes and generally just do our own thing are would be considered bigger major criminal's because of a classification change. But what are we doing wrong and who are we harming? if the medical evidence is to be believed no one at all. From my own personal experience of may years of smoking and holding a steady good well paid job, no one at all.

I would love to see what studies have been done on the rates of cannabis related illness in countries where its legalized and see if theres any impact. Im betting there is none.

Sure some people who smoke pot will also take stronger and more dangerous stuff. But even if pot never existed they would still do this why? because they want to and the fact its illegal doesn't bother them. The very fact pot is illegal means though that most deals of it can point you in the direction of harder stuff if you want it. Though most pot dealers I know have basically only dealt cover their own cost's of growing so they smoke for free, hardly a wholesale terrorist funding crime ring. Just some guy's with some plants and a couple of bongs.

It's the drinks lobby !

The drinks lobby have complained that people are too stoned to get up and go to the bar to buy a round so want to see less cannabis smoked.

The government second this as they will no longer receive free houses of parliament scotch to get slaughtered on and booze tax is down.

Government - using YOUR money to tell YOU what to do !

Now excuse me while I down 10 liters of diamond white cider and proceed to kick the s*&t out of some innocent passer by.

Re: @Liam - The Political party 'no bollocks, we'll listen'

"You've got an MP for York,"

Ah yes, 'Hugely Boring' Bayley - I for one will be quite sad to see him go, even though he is a brown-nosing, Blairite toady of the worst sort, since his departure will spell the end of political satire in this particular part of God's Own County.

As for weed? You can keep it - makes me thoroughly sick. I'll stick to caffeine and alcohol, thanks very much.

cannabis use declined in the last ten years...?

"Cannabis use has fallen significantly across all age ranges and this is a testament to the success of the previous ten year Drug Strategy"

Is this actually true? Seriously? In my experience, usage has gone way, way up since the 90s! In fact, it's become so prevalent the cops don't even arrest anyone for it, now; it's normal to see a dude chugging down the street with a blunt hanging out his maw round my way (Bristol). Mind you, there's a lotta hippies out this way...

Rx

smiley coz... we ciderdelic!

@ By Mark Summers

Oh dear, the Grammar Nazi makes himself look like a pillock....

"Your appearing a pillock to."

Your = You're

to = too

Paris, because I bet she is hot.... on grammar natch :-)

PS Not all El Reg readers have English as their first language, some slack should be cut.

We should stage a 'keep cannabis illegal' rally

Everyone show up off their heads, wave cans around and if anyone wants an interview do your best Rab C Nesbitt impression Ekschplan'n why cannannannabith is bad n evryby shud drink beer 'nsted.

Or better yet, pretend so that when you get arrested for Drunk and Disorderly all it takes is one brethalyzer test to get you off.

5 Years in Prison for Smoking !

Jacqui Smith and half the shadow cabinet have admitted smoking weed at university when it was Class C. Now she has just increased the penalty for users from 2 years to 5 years. Does she really think it would have been better for her or for society if she had been sent to prison for 5 years ? Would catching and imprisoning the 4.5 million people in this country who smoke cannabis each year make the country better ?

Clearly enforcing the law would be terrible for otherwise innocent people and the country as a whole. The whole idea of imprisoning someone for doing something that might, maybe do them a little harm (but harm no one else) is utterly wrong and counter-productive. What a terrible bunch of politicians we have Brown, Jacqui Smith and David Davis - none of them with the guts and intelligence to do the right thing and legalise.

I wonder how long till Sun supports Cameron

I have long predicted this. It is the same as when Margaret Thatcher went out and John Major came in. John Major started doing stuff to make the public hate him as soon as Neil Kinnock was booted out and replaced by John Smith. As soon as an opposition that is liked by the Murdoch papers come in, then the current government starts doing everything in a way that the public hate them. This is all controlled by civil servants.

As soon as John Smith was leader of the opposition, then I knew that Labour would win the next general election. I now predict that Tories may win the next one, even though I hate them. They are rather smarmy at the moment, just like Tony Blair was when he came on after John Smith died. So, my prediction is that Gordon Brown will do even more things that will make the public hate him.

Tony Blair had the war in Iraq, but there was no opposition, that is how he stayed in power. As soon as the Liberal Democrats seem to be reliable, the Murdoch papers bring out the news about Charles Kennedy and his drinking problem. Then they notice that many people are sympathetic about him and then that bloke with the "rent boys" is put in as a possible leadership candidate. The Murdoch papers have ammunition to destroy Liberal Democrats and thus Tony Blair can stay in power. Besides, who wanted a slimy Vampire as a Prime Minister (Tories).

So, be ready for more bad news for Gordon Brown. This is just my own observation. I am remaining anonymous in case the black helicopters land in my garden and I don't mean Prince William.

Y'know

The problem we have with the current “Home Secretary” is that she's a woman of limited intellect and petite Bourgeois tastes that desperately needs a) to get stoned and b) needs to meet a nice man who can fuck her brains out.

And someone should be kind enough to explain being the Home Secretary isn't the same as being a fucking school secretary.

Paris, because she'd be a damn sight better in public office than this joke.

NSFW

Can we have a piccy of Ms Smith naked, please?

On second thoughts, no thanks as I haven't a coat to cover it up.

Labour no more...

If this is an example of the new 'listening' government, we need to get them out at the earliest opportunity before they start listening even harder!

May 3 2008

Mr Brown accepted that it had been a “bad night” and vowed to “listen and lead”.

May 7 2008

Mr Brown says cannabis is to be reclassified as a class B drug - against experts' advice.

@ Greg Fleming - You are so wrong

"she's a woman of limited intellect"

Your keyboard must be up the duff, you so clearly meant to type "no", but what came out was "limited". I can only suggest giving it a bloody good clean :-)

So no..

So there'll be no wacky backy for jackie then?

Mines the smoking jacket made from hemp.

Pictures of Jacqui Smith needed now... real or faked...

Oh for fucks sake - doesn't someone have some pictures of Jacqui Smith enjoying a spliff? She admitted that she smoked it "while young". Surely someone has some pictures (or is willing to admit being friends with her) and can write to her claiming to release the evidence if this becomes law? While that won't disqualify her from election it will surely show her as the hypocritical bitch she is.

bottler brown loses the plot

So next time he needs to make a decision, he will rely on his church and his belief that skunk is lethal ?

Been plenty of cases of people trying to kill themselves by eating cannabis, only to be stoned for a few days

Heavy drug users who use lots of drugs are dangerous, but easier to grab headlines I guess ?

Cannabis causes paranoia

Every time I smoke a spliff, I start thinking the police want to arrest me.

Isn't funny how, every time you think a new Home Secretary cannot possibly be any worse than the old one, it suddenly does...

@ no bollocks party

I'm in. Hon. member for Welwyn Hatfield. If that doesn't work we'll have to do something else. As previously mentioned all the main parties are unelectable.

Fire. Its time to burn this corrupt unworkable system.

PS Party slogan : Be excellent to one another, and party on dudes