back to article An unbearable itch to migrate your OS to the cloud? You might have a case of Windows VD

Microsoft has released Windows Virtual Desktop (WVD) while reminding users that Windows 7 is inching ever closer to the end of support. Unless, that is, they sign up to run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres for Extended Security Updates (ESU) until January 2023. WVD hit preview in March this year, …

  1. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    It sounds like a cunning plan. Or something that sounds like that.

  2. Warm Braw Silver badge

    There's no plan right now

    It's going to be a bit of a minefield controlling the rate at which large corporates ditch then Intel desktop/laptop in favour of an ARM-based virtualised alternative while simultaneously keeping Intel in business to supply the server chips until Microsoft works out how to ditch x86/x64 altogether. The plebs will have to sit it out.

    1. LeahroyNake Silver badge

      Re: There's no plan right now

      Those Arm boxes that can only just run an RDP session and bolt on to the back of a monitor ewww. They cost way too much for what they are.

    2. boltar Silver badge

      Re: There's no plan right now

      Isn't this sort of thing exactly what Sun tried with its JavaStations? They were a total failure too.

  3. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    The SMARTR Machine Tooled Option is a Future Virtual AIDerivative Market Play...

    .... with Heavenly Engagements.:-)

    However, Manchester added the company is pondering how to bring the technology to Microsoft's on-premises cloud, Azure Stack, and told us the Windows giant is "actively in discussion with customers regarding the viability of that solution".

    Care to dare share what Azure Stack Programmers are actively in discussion with customers about with particular and peculiar regard to the viability of improving proven clouded solutions ..... successful virtually enterprising operations?

    We can learn of developments and mentor to monitors anywhere and everywhere if information and intelligence is escaped and registered here in these simple learned threads, for there is always someone who thinks they knows what is next and best, or what else can be done to make matters better, or worse if a plan fails dramatically and catastrophically.

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Flame

    "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

    Fuck that. Microsoft, you can't even keep language settings correctly for your failed browser, you think I'm going to be stupid enough to entrust my entire desktop to your effing cloud ?

    Do you remember what PC used to mean ? Personal Computer. Emphasis on Personal.

    ODFO.

    1. 404 Silver badge

      Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

      Cloud = Mainframes in my eyes - we've been here before, didn't like it much then.

    2. andy 103

      Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

      Do you remember what PC used to mean ? Personal Computer. Emphasis on Personal.

      That's only because at the time it wasn't possible for it to be anything else. At least not for an average home or office user. You can rest assured that if there was some cloud equivalent in Windows 3.1 days Microsoft would have jumped on that chance.

      Providing the OS for someone's system is one game. Being the keeper of their data is a bigger one. One could argue that Microsoft "won" in terms of getting an OS used by so many. The jury is still out on who will win in terms of the next game, however. They're all trying though - all the big players, and even some smaller ones.

      1. Updraft102 Silver badge

        Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

        That's only because at the time it wasn't possible for it to be anything else.

        So no mainframes back then? Personal computers were the first kind of computer?

      2. boltar Silver badge

        Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

        " You can rest assured that if there was some cloud equivalent in Windows 3.1 days Microsoft would have jumped on that chance."

        There was - its called the unix X window system. You could - and still can - run a desktop from a machine anywhere in the world along with remote command line acccess and rpc. But Wijndows back then was little more than a toy and not even close to being up to the task.

        1. doublelayer Silver badge

          Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

          But there wasn't a system that allowed you to not hate everything while doing that. If using a CLI, it was just fine. When doing anything at all intensive in a GUI, there would be lots of lags as data got moved around. So computers were made self-contained. With increasing network speeds, it will be possible for people to do more work on a remotely-located device, already popularized by the Chromebook and cloud services from Google, Microsoft, and Adobe. We will have to see how long it takes for users to realize that their remote client isn't really saving much power for them and that it's sometimes really inconvenient to have all processing dependent on something located a few easily-cut network lines away from you.

          1. boltar Silver badge

            Re: "run their Windows 7 desktops in Microsoft's cloudy data centres"

            X doesn't work like RDP - ie essentially chucking low fps videos across the network , it just sent drawing commands (unless it was an actual bit map or image obviously) which cut down the network traffic immensely.

  5. Douglas Wardle

    The first salvo for monthly O/S subscriptions

    I yam a prophet

    1. Teiwaz Silver badge

      Re: The first salvo for monthly O/S subscriptions

      So Windows 8s true crime was being too shit, too soon.

      This was maybe the plan all along, have a crap ui and charge users who need to do something useful.

      Wonder if you need to also pay for the host desktop in order to access your virtual desktop?

      If so congrats, MS on working out how to get paid twice per seat (thrice, if you include Office).

  6. 0laf Silver badge
    Facepalm

    I can see it now, we spend £100k setting up with this and after 6 months Nedella doesn't like the colour or decides everyone is going to use iPads and pulls the plug.

    1. Teiwaz Silver badge

      'Nedella' doesn't like the colour.

      You could tell 'im to stick it up 'is nose, but there'd only be a short business case to investigate whether Windows* would benefit to being fitted nasally.

      * Yes, Windows, not the customer.

  7. Will Godfrey Silver badge
    Unhappy

    A dog wagging tail

    My sympathy is for the small business, that's already working flat out hand-to-mouth with rates and taxes, and really doesn't have the time, money or experience to seek out alternatives. They are going to be well and truly shafted.

    ... yes, more so than they already are.

  8. Chairman of the Bored Silver badge

    Tested 500,000 apps?

    Or tested 500 apps a thousand times? I'm having a hard time buying that number from a OS vendor who frequently doesn't appear to even test their own patches thoroughly.

    Saw an outrageous claim from my company about the effectiveness of a QA function and we found the following haiku on a board:

    A number so large

    Almost certainly bullshit

    But soon we will know

  9. PhillW

    Demise of Win 7

    Gave me an unbearable itch and I changed it to a bearable ditch..... now happily running Linux.

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