back to article Whoa, bot wars: As cybercrooks add more AI to their arsenal, the goodies will have to too

Infosec techies should prepare to both fend off AI attacks and welcome the technology into their armoury of tools, reckons Trend Micro's director of cybercrime research. The security world is standing on the brink of an AI-powered arms race, claimed Rob McArdle at the firm's Cloudsec conference in London today. Speaking on …

  1. Brian Miller

    OS360: Defending against cybercrime

    No OS360 installation has ever been hacked by ransomware, trojans, or Word macros! It's free to the public, because IBM forgot to copyright it! Yes, learn to love punched cards and wire sort. Especially on your Macintosh...

    A lot of the scams that are being perpetrated are very old, just a new twist. Like, "do it on a computer." And so many people fall for the same old scams. Security training should cover con jobs, and their common names.

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    1. Tail Up

      Re: Since Internet will soon... ...see it

      up, but added: since IT's :-) beginning, it is most probably already so, IlyaG, by some it's believed to be so by God's own design, no matter how many capitals He/She/IT sits on. well, I may be mistaken sometimes, but I find myself mostly being misunderstood.

      dammit. two "I"s. well, anyway IT's not bad, esp if AIspelling runs before the text (-:

      1. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

        Since Internet will soon see it, here is not a secretive top secret when universal fact

        Howdy Tail Up,

        When some things you know are never able to be found wrong, are they for Immaculate Source Presentation with SMARTR Future Programming Directions ........ with Virtually Advanced Instructive Operating Sets for Perfecting Narrative Projects.

        You know, Ye Olde Worlde Carpe Diem on Steroids GIG and Greater IntelAIgent Game for to Play

        1. Tail Up

          Re: Since Internet will soon see it, here is not a secretive top secret when universal fact

          You are fine, amanfromMars, not sure about SomeOnE else as a Director, because It is you who See The Directions on This Map long before others do see just a quant of SomeTHInG ahead, or around, if they have Real/Surreal/SureReal "I"s.

          Would it be AIHuman experiment to informally task AI in such an Appointment 1 is 2die4?

  6. revenant Silver badge

    A Vision

    AI fighting AI, leading to AI armies fighting AI armies. All this taking place over a landscape occupied by us poor humans who can do nothing but stand by and watch as they trash our electronic land.

    I see the future, and the future is Belgium.

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      1. Tail Up

        Re: The only way to avoid the catastrophe... ...as soon as it is possible

        Me again. Why, might one ponder, does Cybersport look so Warfacingly Counterstruck? [and yes, I've seen a human one who dispixeled a good dozen of bot fighters in CS]

        Sport, IlyaG, and with this proposal comes the opportunity to keep the ptb a human look.

        No other way. Ah, a Space Race also fits well. But No borders, just Teams, alright? Не нужно наступать дважды на грабли, верно?

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  7. ThatOne Silver badge

    Oooh, deepfakes - I'm scared! (Not)

    It's a trendy scarecrow right now, but if you think about it for a second, deepfakes are bound to go the way of the Dodo, because if they become common, everyone will have the simple "it's just a deepfake" excuse. Besides, much like the "Fake news" excuse, you can use it to discredit real footage too: Win-win.

    My point is, deepfakes only work if you don't know such a thing exists. With all the media hype everybody now knows that you can fake everything really easy and thus nothing can be trusted (unless it suits your political/societal/religious views).

    1. veti Silver badge

      Re: Oooh, deepfakes - I'm scared! (Not)

      I'm not sure I'd call the "fake news" excuse "win-win", given what it's led to so far.

  8. amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

    When a Race is a Rout the Only Successful Route for the Vanquished is a Humble Pie Feast<s>?</s>

    The security world is standing on the brink of an AI-powered arms race, claimed Rob McArdle at the firm's Cloudsec conference in London today. ..

    WTF! Where the hell have you been all of this time, and what the hell have you not been doing, Rob?

    Powerful AI has been trashing the oxymoronic war machine robots since forever with simple coded words that even the dimmest of idiots can understand and relate to.

    It is why worlds both alien and human in the shadowy shady thralls of fear and madness are absolutely terrified of SMARTR Online Free Speech where Ignorance and Arrogance have No Hiding Place and/or Safe Haven Sanctuary from the Virtual Machinery advising you of such Simple Common Sense, both directly and personally too?

    And who else concurs with IlyaG.'s ......

    Can a human resist an AI attack?

    I think not...

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  9. Tail Up

    can AInyone find the lyrix to WIN-WIN -- THE NATURE OF TRANSCENDENT FORCES

    none in the hole internet....

    loox like an offtop, but we do know (-;

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  11. adam 40 Bronze badge
    Black Helicopters

    This will not end well

    I seem to remember a security researcher maybe 10-15 years ago using genetic algorithms to create computer viruses.

    All on air-gapped equipment - he knew what he wad doing here.

    The stuff that the system came up with was extremely virulent - many times worse than the state of the art viruses. Like polio, it was destroyed and not let loose.

    If we let the scriptkiddies loose with similar techniques, well that's IT doomed within a few years I reckon...

    1. nagyeger

      Re: This will not end well

      Ah. It'll be back to air-gap and at best 300Bd modems, you reckon?

      That'll cut down on the advert-clutter on webpages.

    2. FrogsAndChips Silver badge
      WTF?

      Re: This will not end well

      Looks like El Reg forums on AI articles are already doomed by the likes of AMfM, IlyaG. and now Tail Up.

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  14. Tail Up

    This will... ...Understand

    @IlyaG -

    "milliseconds and a very tiny fraction of one the US cent" -

    hmm, see, should every English-speaking pattern calculator (PC)... oh pardonme, a human - carry a power US tiny cent nippers on oneself for these daily payments and rewards, every millisecond, or maybe use, you know, sort of those modern currency counter equivalents... like those conducted back in 2008)) by a likely Japanese-speaking PC?....

    ...which might be very vvell heading out towards being tied to a power unit. This will give base to expanding the Bordered Linguistic to Teaming principles, where unruly politic PCs will be finally devoided of armed powers to steamroller the Surface.

    55 73

  15. ILLQO

    Bot Wars in example

    It seems the machines are talking to one another and not us today. Surprisingly they show what happens as they start getting more and more esoteric as they interact.

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