back to article The nights are drawing in. Pour a cup of cocoa and join us for Windows 10 Autumnwatch

The leaves on the trees are turning golden, a chill is in the air, and while the Windows 10 October 2018 Update remains locked in the fireworks tin, there seems to be movement for its sibling, Windows Server 2019. Windows 10 is late. After a brief appearance at the beginning of October, replete with confident tweets that the …

  1. hplasm Silver badge
    Devil

    Autumnwatch might come to an end.

    A watched turd never rots...

  2. riparian zone

    Assistive technology be damned...again?

    I'm more than a tad worried that my clients running win 10 and (expensive) screenreading/magnification software such as Dolphin Supernova will have to pay for another upgrade. This happens with depressing regularity. I'm not sure which upgrade it was, but one client having a longer-than-usual wait from a darkened screen switched the box off, from the mains. There were tears after the box was completely busted. Mind you, its the magnification that the dividend is for, there are suitable screen reading apps that read out perfectly well... and there I was reading the post from MS and their disability lead (who used to be my boss in another life) touting their accessibility credentials. Aye, if you can afford it....and why is MS making assistive apps for Apple?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Re: Assistive technology be damned...again?

    "and (expensive) screenreading/magnification software such as Dolphin Supernova"

    For which the support and maintenance fee to get update entitlements costs the exact same per year regardless of how many screwups Microsoft release, no?

  4. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    Coat

    Still some time to buy popcorn then . . .

  5. Khaptain Silver badge

    If it's not ready, don't release it

    The marketing Id10ts might want the release but they are probably the only people on the planet that really care....

    Everyone else just wants stuff that works without sending entire IT Departments up in arms...

    On a daily basis we have enough to deal with without repairing the one element that really needs to just work...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Re: If it's not ready, don't release it

    Went to the Windows 10 update rally the other day...

    It was uneventful, yet the lack of change had everyone real pleased.

  7. LRO(EX)

    Re: If it's not ready, don't release it

    In which case nothing from Micrsteal would ever have been released. Has any of their Windoze software worked first time “out of the box” ?

  8. katrinab Silver badge

    Re: If it's not ready, don't release it

    Windows 2000 wasn't too bad. Certainly a vast improvement on Windows 98.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Action

    At least the real Autumnwatch presenters can say "Nothing is happening at the nest site at the moment, but here is some action we filmed earlier today".

  10. DJV Silver badge

    Re: Action

    The MS Autumnwatch has video of people running around like headless chickens screaming, "My files, my files!"

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Even Bill Gates thinks W10 is a load of shit

  12. Usermane

    Maybe he need more for making drinking water.

  13. arctic_haze Silver badge

    Win 10 vs Soyuz debacle

    The latest Win 10 edition had a setback on the scale of the Russian Soyuz program. Russia wants to send successfully three Soyuz rockets before it starts to test the device on humans, again. Shuldn't Microsoft be at least equally careful?

  14. BobChip
    FAIL

    Windowswatching?

    Don't think I will bother. Past performance is more than sufficient to predict what watchers will see. I'll rely on El Reg to let me know if anything spectacular happens - like it actually working, for example

  15. Mark 85 Silver badge
    Coat

    Testers?

    Maybe the delay is because Microsoft has to hire back their Test Department? I know, I'm dreaming.. why pay staff when customers will do it for you.. I'll get my coat.

  16. J J Carter Silver badge
    Trollface

    Yep

    Windows isn't done until Chrome won't run!

  17. Adair
    Linux

    sudo

    sudo apt update

    apt upgrade

    How often does this (or its GUI/automatic equivalent) fall flat on it's face?

    Happily, very rarely.

    So, it is possible to do updates/upgrades in a sane and reliable manner.

  18. katrinab Silver badge
    Happy

    Re: sudo

    Or if you have FreeBSD, just

    sudo pkg upgrade

    It automatically does the update bit first.

  19. Teiwaz Silver badge

    Re: sudo

    Or if you have FreeBSD, just

    sudo pkg upgrade

    It automatically does the update bit first.

    Wow!!! Super-powers then.

    A lot of debian users do sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

    On Archlinux, it's just sudo pacman -Syu

    Hey, lets have a contest....

  20. katrinab Silver badge

    Re: sudo

    Yes, I do the same on Debian. Just a little bit less typing.

    Also, no systemd.

  21. Steve 114
    Facepalm

    Re: sudo

    Simple incantations from the forever-non-obvious Book of Spells. When there's a GUI for that, Linux might just be ready for my cousins' desktops. They haven't needed DOS for decades.

  22. Adair

    Re: sudo

    But there is a GUI, several in fact! There is a choice, and has been for years, but for those who like 'casting spells', that is also an effective option.

    But it's not about the UI, it's about the fact that the spell, however it is unleashed, reliably updates not just the OS but every bit of software that has an update issued.

    As I said, updating/upgrading in a sane and reliable way is possible. Perhaps MS should try harder. :-P

  23. BobChip
    Linux

    Re: sudo

    Quite so. No basic system update has ever, in six years of continuous use, borked my system. or taken more than a few minutes to complete.

    Suits me very well, thank you.

    Icon, because you already knew without being asked.

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