back to article No need to code your webpage yourself, says Microsoft – draw it and our AI will do the rest

Microsoft has introduced an AI-infused web design tool called Sketch2Code that converts hand-drawn webpage mockups into functional HTML markup. It's not to be confused with a similar AirBnB project that has been referred to, unofficially, as sketch2code. For years, drag-and-drop web page building apps have been capable of much …

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The return of front page

Remember when FP turned a couple of kB into hundreds to allow easy html publication.

More shite code on the way, not just from microsoft.

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Re: The return of front page

You’re missing the point. It’s *AI* doing it this time.

Anyway Frontpage disappeared a long time ago. My ire is reserved for Dreamweaver.

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Put some CSS, JQuery, or Ajax in there maybe the page could be interesting.

Otherwise, its just Cloud AI Notepad for Web

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My experience with these products is they are a pain to update the site and often produce miserable code. Too often these products are marketed to PHBs who are penny wise and pound foolish.

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"Put some CSS, JQuery, or Ajax in there maybe the page could be interesting irritating."

Fixed it for ya. Except CSS is ok when kept to a minimum [and not some ginormous boilerplate abomination from robot hell, stored on a CDN, and only used on THAT web page].

I can imagine how many horrible things gone horribly wrong will end up on 'teh intarwebs' as a result of an AI tool that turns drawings into web pages.

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I usually interpret 'Drag 'n Drop' as something you do with 'generated html' when you drag and drop it into the trash.

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Can we have the scrolling, animated text back?

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"Too often these products are marketed to PHBs who are penny wise and pound foolish."

Oh yes.I knew it was near time to retire when the new PHB told me he did not know why it took days to produce new reports when he had seen a Microsoft tool that just allowed you to drag a database query onto a web page and have it populate a table that you resized with the mouse.

Query cost analysis and optimisation? Formatting? Validation?

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Re: The return of front page

Well provided the AI generated code is certified using blockchain, they're onto a winner.

*shakes head in disbelief*

Haven't they got anything better to do?

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Re: Frontpage disappeared a long time ago.

It lives on in the SharePoint designer.

Much like the old ones, it sleeps, waiting to be awoken by the folly of man.

And on that day, all will be marquee and blink tags. And fire and brimstone shall rain down from the sky.

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I do remember that, yes. And I still think it is a good thing.

Anything which lowers the barriers to non technical people creating content on the web is good. And, in my opinion, 1000 functional websites with awful code is better than 1 website, say, facebook, with 1000 beautfilly efficiently coded pages.

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How about 1000 dysfunctional websites that only work on the developers machine?

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How about the 1000 poorly secured websites that have some of your personal data that are waiting to be exploited by those nasty people.

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Re: Frontpage disappeared a long time ago.

And not forgetting that "Clippy the Office Assistant " is just waiting to return from The Home for Retired Pointless Animations ...

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Just curious: who will own the copyright on the generated code?

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I came specifically to joke about this; thanks for taking it off my hands.

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Anything which lowers the barriers to non technical people creating content on the web is good.

I like the sentiment, but Front Page was an abomination. It was like a printing press that used plague corpses instead of paper.

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Can we have the scrolling, animated text back?

And a 900kB "AI" JavaScript that dynamically adjusts the number of dancing baloneys to fit the viewport.

I've heard that FrontPage 2018 Sketch2Code will also automatically create and join webrings.

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I like the sentiment, but Front Page was an abomination. It was like a printing press that used plague corpses instead of paper.

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Front-end web jockeys, freed from the burden of applying their expertise, can look forward to the creative satisfaction of quality assurance, a phrase which here means checking the AI's work.

But don't get too comfy. You'll be on the Help Desk soon after the release of the AI product that fulfills the QA function.

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But don't get too comfy. You'll be on the Help Desk soon

But the Help Desk have all been replaced with an AI chatbot that really only knows to tell people to restart their devices.

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But the Help Desk have all been replaced with an AI chatbot that really only knows to tell people to restart their devices.

In fairness to AI, that's also the only thing that most wetware tier 1 support reps know to tell people.

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But the Help Desk have all been replaced with an AI chatbot that really only knows to tell people to restart their devices.

'Turn it off and on again' /'uninstall and reinstall the app' serves two important purposes on a helpdesk.

1 it actually fixes most of the callers' problems (either because it does; it gives them sufficient pause to work out the answer themselves or it just makes them go away because they never had a problem that's in scope for that helpdesk.

2 it tells the knowledgeable caller that the operator has reached the end of their script/expertise and it is time to ask for an escalation or give up.

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Hilarious

If this kind of thing takes off in a big way, there'll be a lot of web developers suddenly out of work. Better learn some real programming languages guys...

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"there'll be a lot of web developers suddenly out of work"

That seems rather doubtful. There's a lot more to web development than just arranging the visuals. This tool seems more suitable to allow non-web developers to design simple pages, and to relieve real web developers of the tedium of designing simple pages.

"Better learn some real programming languages guys..."

It sounds like you're confusing two different professions. While there is a bit of overlap in the Venn diagram, web developers and software developers are two different skillsets that require two different ways of thinking and working. Witness how terrible most software developers are at web development. Web developers aren't wannabe software developers who couldn't be bothered to learn <insert your favorite language here>.

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"Witness how terrible most software developers are at web development. "

And considering the bloated, browser dependent mess that's so often presented as a web page, witness how terrible some web developers are at web development.

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Indeed, you'll get no argument from me on that. But I blame those odious "User Experience" folks for that more than actual web developers.

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blame those odious "User Experience" folks for that more than actual web developers.

You'll get no argument from me for blaming them from anything. but implementation has to take a share of the blame. And do we have some left over for manglements demanding DRM?

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To be fair the real languages have the same problems, it’s just the shit frameworks people use with them get a logo after the third version as opposed to before the first

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Re: Hilarious

Is the joke not that HTML is not coding, it's markup? Ok, my understanding of definitions is rusty.

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"There's a lot more to web development than just arranging the visuals".

Cue the old joke about the drunk searching for his car keys under the street light. "Is this where you dropped them?" "No, but it's much easier to see here".

One of the classic principles of software design: "do the easy bits first, and forget about the rest".

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"Is the joke not that HTML is not coding, it's markup?"

Oh grandpa, that is *SO* 20th century...

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"there'll be a lot of web developers suddenly out of work"

That seems rather doubtful. There's a lot more to web development than just arranging the visuals.

Yes, but those "web developers" whose sole qualification is three weeks at a Web Boot Camp will be soon having to be selling off their kidneys.

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Let's hope! I'm a Web Developer, and I've built my career on repairing the mistakes of fools. AI fools or meat fools, makes no difference to me.

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"And considering the bloated, browser dependent mess that's so often presented as a web page, witness how terrible some web developers are at web development.""

Speaking of which, have you SEEN how BIG Win10 basic install is? Lot's of blame to go around I think.

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Browsers aren't bloated, they are simply optimisationally challenged.

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Quality output

"Once you have drawn these wireframes on a whiteboard..."

I look forward to receiving a web page full of blurred scribbles and smudges using a colour palette of 6 faded colours. All enhanced by a background image from the last person who tried to use a permanent marker on the whiteboard.

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You get six faded colors for your whiteboard? What luxury! Where I work, we're only provided with four.

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more likely, three colors.(at least for the actual web page, transcribed from a white board maybe)

One is light blue, for everything that's supposed to look like a button or a symbolic link.

Next, there is blisteringly blindingly bright white, for 90% of the page, to keep you from being able to see anything on it [like staring directly into the sun].

Then there's the black text, with a font size that is too small and a font weight that's too thin to be easily read without magnification, by anyone over the age of 35. Like this edit box, right here. Hint hint hint. Now, where's my magnifying glass... everything looks like "blur" on bright white here.

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But what if I want to design a black website with black buttons labelled in black, which when pressed cause a little black sign to light up in black to show that you have done it? You know, for that true Haggunenon look and feel.

Doffs hat to the late, great Douglas Adams

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"I look forward to receiving a web page full of blurred scribbles and smudges using a colour palette of 6 faded colours. All enhanced by a background image from the last person who tried to use a permanent marker on the whiteboard."

Oh, so the same GUI designer as Windows 10?

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The PHB will love this new product ... "Dear BOFH, while I was in the crapper I had this genius idea for a new webshite design so I sketched it out a a piece of paper that I found there and all you have to do is implement it with AI"

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Next, there is blisteringly blindingly bright white, for 90% of the page, to keep you from being able to see anything on it [like staring directly into the sun].

I reckon there's a conspiracy among monitor manufacturers and web designers, to use as much white as possible, to decrease the useful life of the screen.

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"while I was in the crapper I had this genius idea for a new webshite design so I sketched it out a a piece of paper that I found there"

Was the paper used or unused?

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@JohnFen Re: "You get six faded colors for your whiteboard?"

"What luxury! Where I work, we're only provided with four."

You had rats? You wer lucky, when I wer a lad.....er sorry I am obviously getting past it. See icon.

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Then there's the black text, with a font size that is too small and a font weight that's too thin to be easily read without magnification, by anyone over the age of 35.

Up vote for this. Also, so-called "dark themes."

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"But what if I want to design a black website with black buttons labelled in black, which when pressed cause a little black sign to light up in black to show that you have done it? You know, for that true Haggunenon look and feel."

Easy. Just forget to take the lens cap off when you photograph the whiteboard!

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"Easy. Just forget to take the lens cap off when you photograph the whiteboard!"

Shirley a blackboard is better for that sort of design?

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Yay!

Clippy comes to web design. What could possibly go wrong!

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Re: Yay!

What? He isn't doing it already? Then who the hell is?

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