It's to be hoped that the conference organizers vote with their dollars...
... shirley there must other conference venues that offer just as much fun. I hear Harrogate is nice at this time of year.
 Hookers and drugs, or so I've heard.
At midnight on Thursday, Matt Linton, a senior Google bod who was one of the key players in sorting out the Spectre CPU security hole mess, went to his hotel room in Caesars Palace, Las Vegas – and found his key no longer worked. When he went to reception to find out what the problem was, he was met by two security guards who …
"Nowadays the NSA, CIA and defense contractors routinely recruit at the two shows"
I don't think they care about what they do when they allow the NSA, the CIA and defence contractors as _recruiters_. I mean recruiters by itself are already not welcome at European conferences, even less so when they come from organisations that have on multiple times worked against the population. I mean what's next, a Mozilla stand?
While somewhat off-colour, anyone with an ounce of security knowledge could see that this was a joke about how hackers attack the dumbest and easiest low-hanging fruit.
But unfortunately there are people out there without an ounce of brains that won't see that this is was a joke, and think the tweet is a call to action. They'll interpret the word "attack" in an unfortunate way, with results ranging from inconvenient to lethal.
In today's hostile online culture there are people tweeting calls for attacks, and the mentally-challenged are reading those tweets and taking them seriously.
I would not criticize the sluggards. They will always be with us. It's the hackers who are at fault for using a word such as "attack" as slang. Really? What did you expect, especially in the United States? One could safely use all manner of words, even "tickle".
Chess is an untapped source for new possible slang words without baggage. Sente, joseki, atari. Oops, wrong game. Combination, pawn storm, checkmate, Zwischenzug, Zugzwang, Sitzfleisch, outpost, passer, board room, isolani, back rank, ... maybe "colour complex" would be risky in some contexts. The chess word stalemate is prodigiously misused because it ends the game, while time and death may loosen an impasse, a deadlock, or a Mexican standoff. Pedant alert: it's "risk-averse", not "risk adverse".
@GrapeBunch - But "attack" isn't slang, it is a general term that can be correctly applied to any harmful or destructive act... even chess players use it. Terms like Zwischenzug are highly specific; hackers have lots of specific terms, too.
How about handing out dictionaries to hotel staff and the police?
'He has either never been to Umm Qasr or he's never been to Southampton. There's no beer, no prostitutes and people are shooting at us. It's more like Portsmouth.'
A British soldier's reaction to a claim by Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon that the port of Umm Qasr is 'like the city of Southampton.'
Harrogate's much the same I take it?
There's something inherent in the Tweet medium that is incompatible with thoughtful discourse. Clearly, it is causing vastly more harm than good. Shut it down already.
At the very least, all governments and corporations should explicitly ban its official use, 100%, no exceptions. Go back to carefully-considered news releases.
Clearly, the world would be better without Twitter.
Anyone disagree? LOL...
"There's something inherent in the Tweet medium that is incompatible with thoughtful discourse. Clearly, it is causing vastly more harm than "
And that's where the idea died, right there - because it was over 140 chars long.
If you want this idea to grow legs and run, you need to rephrase it.
Something like: Tweets incompatible with thoughtful discourse. Gov./Biz. should officially ban and return to news releases. World better without Twitter.
Then the twitterati might actually see it - for once, you do need to preach to the
choir converted perverted
I gave this an upvote, but only as to use by government officials* in a context in which the messages might be construed as statements of public policy. There are plenty of other ways to announce public policies and programs, nearly all of them better.
As a matter of personal liberty, individuals generally are free, and arguably should be, to say what they wish and make asses of themselves in the bargain if they are so inclined. Twitter, which as a private entity can set what standards it wishes and censor content as it pleases, rightly or wrongly has chosen to leave the platform quite open, providing them a very convenient vehicle for that.
Corporations, as private entities generally should be able to behave similarly to natural persons within various legal constraints imposed by such things as securities laws and regulations. Both corporations and individuals, of course, often would be wiser than it sometimes appears they are to suppress the urge to tweet.
* and we all can think of at least one government official who violates this without apparent end.
Can't invasively advertise your loyalty program to your "guests" on every page they visit if you haven't got them fully covered across their social media presence.
And if you just happen to have your security drones monitoring the same feeds, well, that's just efficient.
In all seriousness, Vegas casinos have some of the most comprehensive and sophisticated monitoring and data analysis setups on the planet. The things they can do if they so choose are often terrifying.
"In all seriousness, Vegas casinos have some of the most comprehensive and sophisticated monitoring and data analysis setups on the planet. The things they can do if they so choose are often terrifying."
Which inspired the lyrics 'I am the Eye in the Sky, looking at you, I can read your mind/I can cheat you blind'
THAT is what inspired that song? Wow. In any event, my company did Vegas for the annual one year. Most stressful week of my life. (Worse than basic training.) Almost all retail these days is predatory, but there my defensive warnings just would not turn off.
Not my town. Not my town at all.
I doubt anyone at the hotel was monitoring all the guests Twitter accounts, but the FBI probably was. Though IMHO more likely in a conference this size there are a few people who don't like this guy for whatever reason, saw his tweet, and anonymously reported it to the hotel as a threat to cause trouble for him.
Could be anything, maybe he stole the girl someone was talking to in the bar the previous night, professional jealousy at his recent success, or maybe he's just an asshole in person and disliked by many for perfectly understandable reasons.
"I doubt anyone at the hotel was monitoring all the guests Twitter accounts,"
Want to bet? (phrasing relevant)
I suspect they have a system with filters like "vegas, break bank, cardsharp, cheat, rig, sure thing, caesars palace" that picks out relevant tweets from all of twitter (you can do this yourself on sites like twitterfall) , flags up relevant tweets, and then checks the name/handle against current and upcoming guests . Wouldn't take much work to add "gun, attack, shoot" etc. to that existing system after the previous shooting.
And how is the hotel going to know your Twitter handle is Justicesays, since I'm assuming that's not your real name? It isn't like most people use their real name on Twitter, or if they do that the hotel would have any way to link their real name to one of the many accounts with the same real name.
Besides, if they searched on "break the bank" they'd probably have dozens of hits a day. Everyone always makes some smart ass comment like that when they post in social media about going to Vegas.
Sorry, there just isn't any way for them to link social media to real life, unless they decided to act like US Immigration and required people to turn over a list of their social media accounts (and passwords, in case their posts threatening to count cards weren't public)
Even if you did want to move black hat where would you send it to?
The obvious choice for maximum privacy and freedom of expression legal protection is Geneva but Switzerland is absurdly expensive, and most of the other countries I can think of are also a member of the 5 eyes B$
The obvious choice for maximum privacy and freedom of expression legal protection is Geneva
In that case I'd prefer to be closer to Bern. Not only is that where the Data Protection people actually have their official office, but it's also so full of retiring diplomats that privacy is a given. And they don't speak French :)
However,it is rather boring ..
I'm sure Reno would be happy to take away some of LV's biz.
Having visited Reno once, before my many trips to Vegas, they might as well relocate to Blackpool as Reno.
The first motel we (group of guys travelling) tried to rent a room at had the front desk guy literally sitting in a jail cell - to prevent visitors accosting him. Hugely entertaining, and Reno is a fun place, but it pales in comparisson to Vegas. Sorry Reno - I'll always remember you fondly, but I'll probably not be back.
They cannot move the conference to the UK because the visa issuing department will reject most of the applications.
... which would be a big improvement for unfortunate victims like Sklyarov or Hutchins.
Not sure where to suggest. There are a few countries with more liberal track records re: the 'net, but such things are subject to change (e.g. Oz, Germany). Perhaps a venue with a well-developed hospitality industry but busted government might suit. Greece, for instance?
Even if you did want to move black hat where would you send it to?
Any number of small, island nations would love to host, would be affordable and already have the kind of environment that would make for a good fit due to their banking sector. Not naming any names, just throwing that out there.
I found Switzerland not that expensive in the shoulder season between summer hiking and winter skiing. Beginning of November, for example.
But if you have to hold your do in August, why not Slovenia, or Denver? Or both; it's a connected world, it says here on this packet of crisps.
The airlines are quite clear about this kind of thing. Cracking jokes about attacking their facilities will get you arrested. I don't see why any other business should be expected to put up with jerks who do similar things, and just do nothing about it.
And this is not in spite of, but BECAUSE of things like Mandalay Bay.
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