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Harlan Ellison, the legendary science fiction author who kickstarted the 1970s "New Wave" of science fiction has died in his sleep at the age of 84 at his home in Los Angeles. Ellison was one of the giants of the genre, the winner of eight Hugo awards (including an unbeaten record of three short story prizes), four Nebula …

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Isn’t that pretty much Star Trek 5?

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Dire film (and false god).

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I don't see what V has to do with Ellison.

V is an adaption of Sinclair Lewis 1935 book "It can't happen here" - about the way fascism would arise in America. The baddies were turned into flesh eating lizard aliens because hollywood producers felt this would be more acceptable to audiences than having ordinary americans being fascists.

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I enjoyed Harlan Ellison's writings.

But not as much as Roger Zelazny.

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V = Roman 5

Star Trek V = Finding God

Ellison wrote sci-fi about finding God.

Sorry Nothing to do with lizards.

BTW: Napolean was quite tall. I think the phrase we look for is Small Man Syndrome

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"He didn't always achieve that, but who does?"

Nobody does.

The truly great die trying, though.

Strangely enough, I re-read “I have no mouth but I must scream” a couple days ago after being reminded of it by this post here on ElReg. Thank you, W.S.Gosset. I'll get in this round.

RIP, Harlan.

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so am I one of the few who thought his writing is rubbish ?

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Probably not, Denarius.

But then, does one expect broad comprehension from someone who apparently doesn't know what a wake is for?

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@Denarius

Possibly

.. not that his writing style was particularly special, it was the ideas / plots that made him an author worth reading, not the prose style. Which is why short stories were ideal area for him to excel at.

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Re: so am I one of the few who thought his writing is rubbish ?

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison

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Mostly agree....

I have to agree....... did not particularly enjoy his writing style, it's 100% about the ideas and plots.

In a similar vein, the writing style of Philip K Dick is (in my opinion) hard to follow, not particular well written, but the ideas and plots are peerless - Man in the High Castle is a perfect example of this, as is Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.

I think my point here is that there is more to writing than the actual writing........

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I agree - Philip K. Dick's short stories were much better than the novels which seemed to be so drawn out.

Also, not helped once Hollywood gets their mitts on it. Compare the "Total Recall" films to the short story "We can remember for you wholesale"

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That goes for almost all science fiction writers, though. They get an idea but run out of plot very quickly so they write short stories. Very occasionally, if they are feeling exceptionally bold, a "novella" (Spanish for "padded-out short story") which is almost unknown as a form in any other sphere of writing.

But then, they know their audience. Who wants plot or characterisation when you can get the hang of an idea in a few pages?

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Also notable was Ellison’s 1969 novella A Boy and his Dog, about a mind-reading hound and his human buddy in an post-apocalyptic cannibal future after World War 4. In 1975 it was made into a film with Don Johnson playing the lead role - worth watching if you’re entertained watching an actor trying to emote.

It's an unmemorable film, but I thought the point of the novella is the emotionless 'boy', who [spoiler alert] asked to choose between his dog and his new girlfriend chooses the dog (it doesn't end well for the girlfriend).

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"worth watching if you’re entertained watching an actor trying to emote."

I'm not, that's why I've given up on The Handmaids Tale.

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>watching an actor trying to emote

Seems to have worked for Clint Eastwood who, according to Sergio Leone, managed just two expressions: one with a hat and one without a hat.

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"But eventually he came around to the idea, although continued to defend what he saw as his intellectual property."

An author's work is by law very much his own IP, and it's recognised as such as a human right. What Harlan saw or imagined has nothing to do with it. Harlan defended his author's rights like a bulldog.

Sorry to see The Register's prejudices spoil an otherwise well written and affectionate obituary.

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Not sure you're parsing that right.

"he came around to the idea of the Internet" and "defending his intellectual property" are two different thoughts. That's how I took it, anyway.

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I saw Mr. Ellison at a con in Columbus. He threatened to tell the sickest joke he'd ever heard if we (the panel attendees) petered out during the Q & A. Then he made good on the threat.

He signed my Babylon 5 TCG card, "Reprogrammer", in fountain pen. Apparently that's all he brought to a signing.

Before he signed my Again, Dangerous Visions he called back to his wife to ask if he'd received his royalties on ADV. She said yes. Perhaps the original poster would like to expound on how telling a fan you won't sign his or her book at a convention relates to protecting ones IP.

Aside from B5, this is the work that sticks with me:

http://www.harlanellison.com/iwrite/mostimp.htm

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It's all very well treating the internet as some sort of twisted collective consciousness, until the time arrives when something you worked on rather hard (for rather a long time) is simply pinched and "put into the public domain" by nameless oiks you cannot track down.

Our society is built on individuals being able to profit from creativity. Whilst I despise software patents (and those who seek them), copyright and defence of same is vital to an intellectually healthy world.

I'd like to hope the paragraph was "got at" by a sub-editor with an agenda, but I fear it simply reflects a worrying generational divide. When my kids were teenagers, I was shocked that they were so casual about IP, especially entertainment.

Asimov was fond of the expression "enlightened self interest". One can only hope the millennials start to "get it" fairly soon, before YouTube and its clones become a terrible warning from history.

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Harlan and Book Signings

Harlan was a writer for hire for a lot of his early career and he wrote some stinkers to pay the rent. He had a standing offer to buy back copies of some of those books if you brought them to somewhere he was appearing, like a book signing or a convention. After handing over some money (five bucks in my case, about thirty years ago) he would then gleefully destroy the book there and then.

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Re: Harlan and Book Signings

Harlan was a writer for hire for a lot of his early career and he wrote some stinkers to pay the rent. He had a standing offer to buy back copies of some of those books if you brought them to somewhere he was appearing, like a book signing or a convention. After handing over some money (five bucks in my case, about thirty years ago) he would then gleefully destroy the book there and then.

That would be "Doomsman". Had a friend in NY fandom who was a close friend of his, and has one of the only signed copies of it (and even he had to sneak it into the middle of a pile of other Ellison books).

It was an (admittedly twisted) honor in fandom to have been insulted by Harlan Ellison. Gave you bragging rights that you *must* have been prominent enough to have warranted his attention. I don't mean that to sound like Ellison was arrogant though. Never got to meet him personally (he never attended any of the Lunacons I went to) so I only go on the comments from friends that had.

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Minor pedant

It's "And I Must Scream", not "But".

Also, no mention of Babylon 5? For shame. In addition to writing an episode, Comes The Inquisitor is directly based on an Ellison story ("The Prowler in the City at the Edge of the World") and Ellison even appeared in the show twice.

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Oops! Good catch ... but to be even more pedantic, it's "&".

As for the other, re-read TFA ...

"He wrote what is widely considered to be the best episode of the original Star Trek, The City on the Edge of Forever, was a consultant on Babylon 5 and was credited for James Cameron’s The Terminator"

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Ellison's main involvement in B5 was in the role of the person Straczynski trusted to tell him if he thought something was shit.

Literally their first conversation years before ended with Ellison telling him to stop writing shit, which JMS credits with saving his career.

Reference

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Wasn't he credited as "a roaming agent of chaos" for his B5 stint?

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That was one of the descriptions JMS sometimes used when people asked what Conceptual Consultant actually meant.

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@jake

>>but to be even more pedantic, it's "&".

No, it's really not.

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If I remember correctly, he also came up with the sound for the spiderships in B5, which comes to define them more than their appearance (in my view).

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>Ellison's main involvement in B5 was in the role of the person Straczynski trusted to tell him if he thought something was shit.

Was he not on set often then?

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@JDX

Not a bad first try at a Harlan impression, but you're still holding back.

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Deathbird Stories

I recently read Deathbird Stories after Neil Gaiman cited Ellison as an influence.

His more abstract concepts in Paingod and Deathbird are disturbingly relevant and in those stories you can see why Gaiman counts him as a significant influence.

I didn't realise he wrote so many scripts but it makes sense when you read something like Along the Scenic Route which comes across like a an everyday Mad Max/Deathrace experiment where armed and armoured vehicles are allowed to duel each other to the death over minor road rage incidents. Still reckon there's a movie in it (Netflix are you reading?).

It's a mixed bag but I'd recommended it if you like your sci-fi dark and pessimistic.

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I think I prefer the original title for "Along the Scenic Route": "Dogfight on 101". I remember when it came out in the late '60s. Great story, although I have to admit that -- being an illustrator -- I bought the mag more for the beautiful techno title page illustration by Jim Steranko than for the Ellison story.

I agree that his prose and his personality could be off-putting at times, but he spun off concepts like an ideating Catherine Wheel. He will be missed.

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Ironclad. Something like Death Race 3 then? PP

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RIP.

"Along the Scenic Route".

Powerful, 30 yrs after my first and only read.

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/a/175644

and a short about a manipulative guy who picks up a woman by gifting a "family heirloom" nickel. Turns out he has a cupfull ready for next mark. Him, right?

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This article

is what take El Reg from extremely good to great.

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RIP Harlan

One of the last great SF voices of the golden age.

However it does mean I can release my homage "I Have No Arse And I Must Fart" now without fear of being sued.

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You think mere physical death would stop Harlan suing someone over copying his work ?

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Probably a coincidence, unless it turns out Ellison tried to sue them

Finally Ellison suggested the Enterprise would warp out to the edge of the universe only to find a solid wall. After rerouting all power to the weapons system the spaceship would blast though the wall and gaze at the face of God.

That seems vaguely similar to the first New Generation episode, where the Enterprise heads out into deep space and runs into a giant unavoidable chainlink fence, placed there by the omnipotent Q to limit the Federation's exploration.

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Ah ...

When I was commenting on HE's irrascible behavoir at a con to author Jack McDevitt, he responded: "The thing you have to remember about Harlan is he was there with the Freedom Marchers."

You have to admire someone who is willing to be cracked in the head with a nightstick for other people's human rights.

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Re: Ah ...

In an example of "Everything that's Wrong with the Modern World" another obit piece (probably in the Garudian) said something like "in the light of this behavior we must reconsider the value of his work"

NO, if the work is good it doesn't matter if he fed puppies into wood chippers or used emacs. The value of the work is unchanged. Blackadder II doesn't become bad when Ben Elton becomes a Tory peer.

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And The Usual Suspects is still a great movie because of Kevin Spacey, not in spite of him.

Yes there's a difference, and no there isn't.

But Harlan Ellison was a major factor in my reading habits when I was in my teens and Again Dangerous Visions was published by Pan in the UK.

Now I have signed editions of much of his work because he used to come across to New York every two years for I-Con and he was the most shameless shill to ever lift a pen. His desk o' books was the sole reason for my late-developed habit of looking for books at author signing tables rather than at bookstore before the con.

When on a late-night signing line after a full day of intensive idiot rescuing I was asked by Ellison what my favorite work of his was. I answered "Jefty is Five" without even thinking. He then quizzed me for about a minute looking intently in my face for some sort of indication I had spotted something he hid in the story. I think he thought I failed the test, but I was just exhausted, which gives me a gormless expression at the best of times.

And I witnessed something marvelous in that same signing line: Harlan Ellison struck speechless at the generosity of a fan. I've *never* seen him at a loss for words, even in the most sudden ambush situation. I've seen him speechless with indignation, speechless with rage, but never with unlooked for kindness. It made for a memory I will treasure as long as I can ... what do you call it ... remember!

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NO, if the work is good it doesn't matter if he fed puppies into wood chippers or used emacs. The value of the work is unchanged. Blackadder II doesn't become bad when Ben Elton becomes a Tory peer.

To an extent. It *is* harder to appreciate Marion Zimmer Bradley's work in light of what we've learned about her and her husband Walter Breen in the years after her death. It certainly is harder to sympathize with her fanfiction disputes, regardless of the validity thereof.

Harlan may have been an asshole on many occasions (sometimes for good reason), but rarely was he a sleasebag.

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Class act.

"Harlan Ellison, the legendary science fiction author who kickstarted the 1970s "New Wave" of science fiction has died in his sleep.."

Somewhere in all his horrific dystopias, he found the perfect way to die.

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Somewhere in all his horrific dystopias, he found the perfect way to die.

Philip K Dick died in someone else's sleep

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At a penny (cent ?) a word you'd have to be prolific to earn a living.

Something that's not so much in evidence today in literary matters.

The concept "Write a lot. Sure many will be filler, but some will be killers."

RIP Harlan.

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He also spawned a computer game

There's an adventure game based on I Have No Mouse and I Must Scream. Not tried it, though.

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Bah!

Cordwainer Bird was Ellison's version of Allan Smithee, not a pen-name of choice. It told the world he was disavowing the quality of the final product.

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