Nothing to see here folks, sorry that the curtain got lifted a little, we're weighing it down a bit heavier now. We don't want third parties using the kind of power that we've been working for years towards leveraging.
That long-awaited Mark Zuckerberg response: Everything's fine! Mostly fixed! Facebook's great! All good in the hoodie!
Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, has broken his silence about his data gathering and advertising firm's unforeseen role in data gathering and advertising. On Wednesday, Zuckerberg provided "an update on the Cambridge Analytica situation," a reference to the UK-based data analytics firm's alleged use of 50 million Facebook …
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 07:10 GMT Voland's right hand
Nothing to see here folks, sorry that the curtain got lifted a little,
Indeed.
Also, while we know how much did Facebook "Shared and Cared", how much did UK Department of Defence, MI5, MI6 and GCHQ share. After all this lovely, moral and proper company called Cambridge Analytica had List X access courtesy of its parent company being List X cleared:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/21/mod-cambridge-analytica-parent-company-scl-group-list-x
It is so improper and unfair. Such persecution of the tool we use to f*** up the democratic process elsewhere. No, we never ever rig other country's elections. Spare the thought...
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 08:08 GMT Anonymous Coward
That helps explain why the ICO still doesn't have a warrant
It will not have one. I do not often agree with Putin and Co, but they had a point in yesterday's diplomatic briefing at their ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday: UK Government has a track record in hiding, falsifying and doctoring evidence to erase the traces of its involvement. This case is one of many.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 08:59 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Nothing to see here folks
We don't want third parties using the kind of power that we've been working for years towards leveraging.
Certainly not people paying cheap seat academic researcher rates for the data and then flogging it on. They will be paying the full commercial rates for it like everyone else.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 09:30 GMT John Smith 19
I see the picture and I think...
What, me worried?
Noooo.
He got the users to hand over a shedload of their personal details to them and the stockholders to hand over a tonne of cash for a business that's basically a server farm in assets and whose dividend policy has a P/E ratio measured in centuries.
Why wouldn't he think he could hand any random stranger a plate of dog poo and get them to eat it?
He already has. Twice.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 01:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
'Irish Regulator (@DPCIreland) saw a "satisfactory response" in 2012 by Facebook'
Lets be clear what 'satisfactory' means to a country who has utterly prostituted itself for US tech giants. German-data-protection-federal-commissioner: - 'Of course Facebook would go to a country with the lowest levels of data protection. It’s natural they would choose Ireland.' Unfortunately, the new Data Protection Bill 2018 will reinforce that view":
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https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/privacy-rights-it-s-natural-facebook-would-choose-ireland-1.3400531
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/independence-of-data-protection-commissioner-questioned-1.2513682
http://www.thejournal.ie/data-protection-commissioner-new-office-1488473-May2014/
https://qz.com/162791/how-a-bureaucrat-in-a-struggling-country-at-the-edge-of-europe-found-himself-safeguarding-the-worlds-data/
https://qz.com/993995/how-facebooks-fb-sheryl-sandberg-personally-lobbied-irish-prime-minister-enda-kenny-as-shown-by-2014-emails-published-in-the-irish-independent/
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 09:59 GMT LucreLout
It is interesting that MZ seems to have stepped up his sale of FB shares recently. Wonder why?
In fairness to the annoying, smug, irritating, mostly irrelevant, millenial tw@, if I owned a company worth £500Bn ish, I'd be gradually flogging it off and diversifying. Just in case something I knocked up at college to help me get laid doesn't turn out to be as critical for society as it was for my college days.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 01:43 GMT Anonymous Coward
<<< Isn't it time for Kalanick 2.0 to go >>>
He can go back to his robots, pushing indigenous people off their Islands, and voyeuristically looking at Puerto Rican's suffering. If users won't close their Facebook accounts, then disengage from the platform / lose less time on there. Make it harder for sociopath Zuk to pretend to his Ad pals that FaVebook is still growing. Zuk: users are 'dumb fucks' - Time to resign!
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Friday 23rd March 2018 15:27 GMT jelabarre59
Re: <<< Isn't it time for Kalanick 2.0 to go >>>
He'll voyeuristically watch Puerto Rican children suffer while he does everything he can to protect his offspring. He's so far disconnected from reality. He's a dumb fuck.
AND he likes bribing county legislators and county executives to get them to tear up a perfectly functional tourist railroad, just so him and maybe three friends can ride a "rail trail".
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 08:15 GMT Charlie Clark
Re: <<< Isn't it time for Kalanick 2.0 to go >>>
Why would he go? He has a controlling share in the company that has great profit margins and a compliant board. Oh, and by the way, everybody who used the service agreed to the exfiltration.
If previous outrages have shown us anything is that we'll see a bit of slacktivism for a bit but the vast majority of people will continue exposing their personal data without a thought.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 12:13 GMT croc
Re: <<< Isn't it time for Kalanick 2.0 to go >>>
"Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don't know why.
Zuck: They "trust me"
Zuck: Dumb fucks
Instant messages sent by Zuckerberg during Facebook's early days, reported by Business Insider (May 13, 2010)"
A timely reminder...
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 01:44 GMT Fruit and Nutcase
Great minds think alike
I came up with the same phrase as Zuck!
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect my ass.""I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect my political ambitions."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect my dosh."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect our marks."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect our data."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect our community."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to protect my golden goose.""I'm serious about doing what it takes to deflect attention."
"I'm serious about doing what it takes to cover our tracks."
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 01:58 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: How's that 'Presidential Run' looking now Zuckky?
People (the liberals in America) still haven't emotionally got over Hillary's loss in 2016, they're clutching at straws, at whoever's available who might potentially depose Trump in 2020.
The Rock, Oprah, Zucky, Mark Cuban, Biden, Michelle Obama etc.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 10:13 GMT LucreLout
Re: How's that 'Presidential Run' looking now Zuckky?
...they're clutching at straws, at whoever's available who might potentially depose Trump in 2020.
The Rock, Oprah, Zucky, Mark Cuban, Biden, Michelle Obama etc.
I could well imagine Michelle Obama beating other contenders in 2020. I think the main decision as to whether she runs is of the twitching corpse of the Clinton machine enters another spasm, and whether her children want the obvious impact of another 8 years in the White House.
While my politics differ from the Obamas, they deserve the utmost respect for their families conduct in office. I dislike political dynasties intensely - how many Kinnocks do we have to pay for FFS??
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 07:24 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: How's that 'Presidential Run' looking now Zuckky?
It occurs to me that one way to become president might be after just having four or eight years of someone so terrible that people would vote for anyone who isn't a racist grandad.
If only a billionaire social media boss had some way to swing the result one way or the other...
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 07:25 GMT leenex
Re: How's that 'Presidential Run' looking now Zuckky?
Now that Charles Manson is dead, and Anders Behring Breivik has yet to become a cherished Immigrant from Norway, it's looking good.
Fascistbook would become the new Fox News, and new countries could be invaded on a daily basis.
No questions answered.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 02:22 GMT Yes Me
Terms and Conditions May Apply
It's a bit old news now, but it's still worth watching the doco movie Terms and Conditions May Apply. Especially the fun part near the end where the film-maker doorsteps Zuck at his home and, er, invades his privacy.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 02:53 GMT Anonymous Coward
How long can Zuk Perpetuate all the lies...
Zuck's excuses don't fix anything. The problem is Facebook, not outside parties. FB lies to users that it exists to 'connect them', when everyone else knows this is solely about high-targeted advertising (commercial & political).
The Problem Is Facebook, Not Cambridge Analytica
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-03-20/facebook-not-cambridge-analytica-is-the-source-of-the-problem
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 04:04 GMT Anonymous Coward
'Lies...'
"No apology to users, investors or staff over how this incident was allowed to happen by the data policies in place at the time.
No explanation as to why, after learning its data was being abused like this in 2014, it opted to give the companies a telling off instead of banning them outright.
No reasoning as to why Facebook failed to inform users their data may have been affected.
Mr Zuckerberg's words were not an explanation, but a legal and political defence. This company knows it is heading into battle on multiple fronts. "
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43494337
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 08:55 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: 'Lies...'
Lest we not forget the racial profiling scandal that is still going on, that is linked because that's part of how this is all possible.
"In fact, the only meaningful change Facebook appears to have made is a cosmetic one: the company renamed “ethnic affinity” to “multicultural affinity” and relocated the category under “Behaviours.” (Previously it was listed under “Demographics.”)"
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 18:30 GMT Mark 85
Re: How long can Zuk Perpetuate all the lies...
FB lies to users that it exists to 'connect them', when everyone else knows this is solely about high-targeted advertising (commercial & political).
We might know it but does the average user know it and understand the ramifications? I seriously doubt it. We could replace FB with "smart phone" and the same would apply. Users either have no clue or don't care.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 04:37 GMT Anonymous Coward
Intriguing, but still no closer to the whole truth...
Wonder, how often + what kinds of 'Private Messages' got 'SOLD OFF' etc:
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https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0321/949029-facebook-data/
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/20/facebook-data-cambridge-analytica-sandy-parakilas
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5277695/Former-Facebook-execs-call-company-crime-scene.html
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 05:48 GMT Anonymous Coward
Hack >> Breach >> uhh, Breach of Trust??? Yeah, that's it....
No hack, no data breach, just slurpping up data from survey responders (300,000), and their Friends (50M+). But not the Friends (1B+) of their Friends.
All according to the terms that FB'ers agreed to.
But they are still "Shocked!, Shocked!!" they are. As Zuckie says:" they are just "dumb f$%ks" that agree to give away their personal data.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 06:24 GMT Anonymous Coward
"Don't worry Folks, everything is fine"
said the Captain of the Titanic after it had hit that bit of ice.
Just say NO to all of the Social Network (sorry Slurping YOUR Life Networks). We had a life before this crap and we should be able to rise up and have one again PFB (Post FaceBook).
Any accounts or ID's on them purporting to be me are totally fake. I have never even seen a FB login screen and never want to.
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Thursday 22nd March 2018 10:52 GMT Charles 9
Re: "Don't worry Folks, everything is fine"
"Just say NO to all of the Social Network (sorry Slurping YOUR Life Networks). We had a life before this crap and we should be able to rise up and have one again PFB (Post FaceBook)."
Oh? We had life before cars and electricity, too. Thing is, once you reach a certain point, the momentum keeps it from reversing barring something of cataclysmic proportions. Basically, unless Facebook directly causes the loss of a significant percentage of the population, people will see Facebook as too useful to ignore, especially for people for whom it's the ONE AND ONLY form of contact (I speak firsthand on that). And no, various family values preclude ignoring people for whom Facebook is the exclusive contact point.
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