back to article RIP, Swype: Thanks for all the sor--speec--speedy texting

One of the best-loved mobile apps of the past decade, Swype, has been given the bullet. Parent company Nuance confirmed it will no longer develop the letter-tracing keyboard, which will disappear from the Apple and Google app stores. Swype was developed by one of the inventors of T9 predictive text, Cliff Kushner, and was …

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you need a non email method to tasie them!

"Nuance would subsequently bundle Skype with its own Dragon voice dictation system."

Surety Swype not Skype...

Mods.. feel free to delete this comment when typo fixed!

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If we're playing sub-editor:

"It appeared first appeared on Windows Mobile, but versions appeared"

needs revisions. It surely only appeared once?

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Funny my literal brain read that and thought "What's that got to do with this story?" and didn't realise it was a typo.

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Anonymous Coward

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Is it me or does this article need rewriting anyway...

Article on El Reg says they are discontinuing both Apple and Android versions, yet the announcement they link to only says:

"We are sad to announce that Swype-Keyboard for iOS has been discontinued."

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Re: tips & corrections

XDA Developers got a reply from Nuance confirming Android as well.

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Thanks - real shame as it's the only keyboard I use on Android phones and tablets

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swiftkey

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Agreed. GBoard is bloody dreadful by comparison, mainly because it's so much easier to enter a new word in Swype.

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> "Surety Swype not Skype..."

Beware Muphry's law when commenting on typos.

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So if you bought it do you get a refund?

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At very least a download of the last version so you can still use it. Pulling it from the app store removes access to those who paid for it.

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Anonymous Coward

I bought it but stopped using it a while ago, too much slurp and yes the irony of using an Android phone is not lost on me though I am running cyanogenmod.

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"At very least a download of the last version so you can still use it. Pulling it from the app store removes access to those who paid for it."

This is why I always save a copy of the APK too, I have a couple of apps that are no longer available, or I really, really don't like the newer versions but still need to install on another device or reinstall on a factory reset device. Particularly the XBMC remote control I prefer. All I want is a remote and I can switch off the little bling it does have. I don't need flashy thumbnails or access to the library or "currently playing" screens/displays. I can see/do all that on the screen where I'm actually watching the damned show. But XBMC Remote is not just discontinued, it's gone from the Play Store. Likewise Kingsoft Office (now WPS office). I don't need all the extra crap that comes with the new version, nor the additional key press to exit every time where the new ones don't exit the app, but go back to a screen where you can open recent documents, nor the extra "skip" button t get past the opening "brand awareness" screen.

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As long as you're not running Google Play Services, if you have that you might as well be running full-fat Android.

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You've GOT to be kidding me

So what is it exactly that I am supposed to use now? Google Keyboard? Even leaving aside the fact I am not exactly fond of the idea of the Big G knowing everything I type, one of Swype's killer features for me has been the ability to input bilingual text - which I think Google Keyboard still does not support.

(grumbles, makes multiple redundant copies of his Titanium Backup backup of Swype and its data files - should probably download a buttload of additional languages while the data files are still available - and wonders if SwiftKey is now any better than it used to be when you still had to pay for it)

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I just upgraded from Swiftkey to Swype. The latter is far better at prediction. Sad day ...

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Re: You've GOT to be kidding me

WRIO Keyboard has bilingual text and isn't slurpy.

None of the AOSP-based keyboards or Gboard manage to move the cursor, select, or copy-paste text in a way which isn't painful to use.

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Re: You've GOT to be kidding me

WRIO looks like a complete joke. What is the point of larger keys? I want to swipe, not type. And I'm really convinced by the words magically appearing so quickly in the YouTube video. Really convinced.

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Re: You've GOT to be kidding me

Swiftkey

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Re: You've GOT to be kidding me

Dasher.

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Re: You've GOT to be kidding me

"I think Google Keyboard still does not support."

I use Gboard, mainly because it can be themed to be dark, unlike the default Samsung keyboard.

It is quite happy with English and French input, at the same time. The only catch is if switching languages mid sentence, you may have to spell out the first word so the autocorrect/suggestions know it's changed.

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Preductive Sex

I sink this is a grape idea. Lesbian nest the tick knowledge gee four pre dick up skirt is pretty well purr tickle now.

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Re: Preductive Sex

Please may I borrow your predictive training data?

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Better yet... Will you pay me to provide input data for your predictive training data??

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Unhappy

At least it wont get any worse

I've been using Swype since day one on my first Galaxy S(1), and loved it. However, I found each release has got slightly worse at picking the right word, which is very frustrating. It's still better than standard keyboards, and at least it wont get any worse.

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Re: At least it wont get any worse

I saw the same deterioration with SwiftKey — in Android 2.3 it had an amazing ability to know which word I meant & predict the next one, but the accuracy really deteriorated over time... I finally stopped using it a few months ago out of sheer frustration; even Gboard does a better job now.

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Bollocks

I've almost got it nailed down in learning my swear words. Been a long time user and have no intention of losing it - I'll be taking a backup.

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Familar pattern

Big company buys in innovative thingy.

Development stutters. Sometimes later versions worse or unchanged (Paint Shop Pro, Visio, Skype, Pebble, Mobi-reader, Glen-Dimplex buying Roberts etc, Harvard then Argos with Bush/Murphy, Flarion bought by Qualcomm)

Big company loses interest and kills it.

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Don't forget Logitech killing Slim Devices. W@nkers.

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Orv
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Re: Familar pattern

See also the long, slow death of WinAmp.

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Unhappy

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@ Orv "See also the long, slow death of WinAmp."

That was truly sad and it's kinda happened again as the new owner has spent something like three years getting ready to re-launch Winamp "soon (sic)". It was an even more sad day when Gracenote terminated access to CD info for the ripping engine.

I'm still using the last version 5.666 on all my machines - as a background music player it's still the best for me.

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Re: Familar pattern

I switched to MusicBee, which doesn't have the nostalgia value but is similarly simple and does what I need a music player to do.

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One simple difference...

The big thing (for me) about Swype vs GBoard or SwiftKey is that it put up more than 3 predictions. I could usually scroll the prediction strip a bit and find what I wanted.

GBoard and SwiftKey put up 3 choices, one of which is usually just a copy of what you're typing.

Idiots.

GBoard has however improved the layout and other things in the past couple years since I started using Swype. SwiftKey has not, however. They've just sat there.

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Re: One simple difference...

"one of which is usually just a copy of what you're typing"

Is it really only me that finds it incredibly useful to have the thing that I typed appear as an option for what to insert?

Wow.

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Re: One simple difference...

"Is it really only me that finds it incredibly useful to have the thing that I typed appear as an option for what to insert?"

Nope. Most of what I type is part codes and technical terms. I switch predictive text off. Likewise auto-capitalisation of sentence starters which tends to mis-capitalise when when using a full stop other than at the end of sentence etc. Like this.

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> Is it really only me that finds it incredibly useful to have the thing that I typed appear as an option for what to insert?

Nope, because you've already typed it in the text field. So it's a useless duplication.

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Is it me, or do all smartphone keyboards totally suck? I've yet to find one that does not provide the most grammatically ridiculous suggestions imaginable. The predictive tech doesn't seem to have moved on at all in 5 years. I still spend more time swearing and correcting than actually typing useful sentences on my phone.

Can't wait for my Gemini to arrive.

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All rubbish

Actually painfull sometimes using whatsapp.

Best predictive text I have used is the playstation messaging system

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I honestly liked the keyboard on Windows phone, moving to iOS for obvious reasons meant having to find an alternative since Microsoft scrapped their own keyboard on non Windows platforms. SwiftKey despite being owned by Microsoft isn't a like for like alternative.

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just you

I am personally thrilled with precocious Tex. It does exactly what I try to toe. You guys are just total webinars

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Blackberry KB

Google for the APK. For my purposes it's just dandy. Generally actually predicts what I want, and learns fast.

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Why type....

...when I'm alone I almost always use Google Voice Typing, it is much quicker, probably about 80% accurate and seems to now understand my Glaswegian accent, though it stil has problems with 'girl'.

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Re: Why type....

It's more like 95% accurate if you're 'Murican. Or at least if you sound like one.

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Re: Why type....

Glaswegian accent, trying to sound like an American so voice recognition software will work?

"Eleven"

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Re: Why type....

Aye, it's a classic, innit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNuFcIRlwdc

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> when I'm alone

I'm usually in a restaurant, meeting, someone's cube, or otherwise somewhere I'd look like a complete git if I started dictating to my phone, so the "voice key" is useless for me.

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Trollface

Fuck you very much !

"We’re sorry to leave the direct-to-consumer keyboard business, but this change is necessary to allow us to concentrate on developing our AI solutions for sale directly to businesses,” wrote Nuance."

Translation : "We've slurped all the personal data we need so that we can now sell it for a hefty sum. So long, suckers!" /jk

More seriously, isn't this a bit like Google stopping to read our e-mails in gmail, because they have more than enough information to train their AIs, and that's where they expect all the money will be in the future ?

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Nnnnnooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Nightmare. None of the imitations are anywhere near as good. Might as well just chuck my phone in the bin now.

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If fleksy keyboard still exists

I'd recommend the fleksy keyboard to people who like touch typing. I've beta tested it for a while, and although they broke some functionality that was key to me, told me they weren't going to fix it but that they'd open source it so I could do so myself, then left me and their offer behind, I understand that the keyboard still exists and probably still has their pretty good prediction from touch typing. If they haven't shoved too much emoji/gif nonsense in there, it's probably still good.

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Fark!!!

If we have it installed today, can we keep using it? (Android version).

Going to be hard to go back to google's version of swype :(

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