back to article Are you taking the peacock? United Airlines deny flight to 'emotional support' bird

An artist was left spitting feathers after United Airlines told her she couldn't board a plane with her "emotional support" peacock. In a video published by travel site JetSet, the woman is seen wheeling her case across the departures hall in Newark airport, New Jersey, with the large bird perched atop her shoulder, as …

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  1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

    The real question

    The real question is: How much ad revenue did this "artist" collect?

    This has all the hallmarks of a youtuber stunt done to collect revenue.

    1. Steve K Silver badge

      Re: The real question

      Yes - I am sure that this tale will expand alarmingly to reveal more detail

      1. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

        Re: The real question

        The 'revealing part' was in another article in the Independent:

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/peacock-emotional-support-animal-dexter-flight-barred-artists-ventiko-newark-los-angeles-united-a8186671.html

        Where 'Ventiko' is seen posing nude with said Peacock. So yes, she's using the usual nudity and controversy angle for self promotion.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The real question

          Where 'Ventiko' is seen posing nude

          Ughh... where is the bleach to remove some of the pics from my cerebral cortex.

          There are two birds in them - one is pretty, the other one err... not so much. I am leaving the guess on which one is which as an "exercise to the reader".

          By the way the Independent was trying to be stroppy about collecting its revenue share (don't we all love these [scam] artists). Looking at how much sh**** was in blocked by noscript + adblock they can f*** off.

          1. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

            Re: The real question

            The Indy is pretty unusable with adblock, you can't reply to comments with it switched on. If their journalism was decent I'd enable adverts, but their science and tech is shamefully poor, all written by journalism grads who know nothing about anything technical.

            1. Dodgy Geezer Silver badge

              Re: The real question

              ...their science and tech is shamefully poor, all written by journalism grads who know nothing about anything technical....

              It's funny that people who support the political opinions of a newspaper never complain about the 'Opinion' sections - even though the level of competence shown in such discussion is very low amongst ALL the major newspapers - both Left and Right,,,

              1. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

                Re: The real question

                Steady on, I for one didn't say I had no problem with the opinion pieces. I was merely replying in the context of technical articles.

                I have plenty of problems with 'opinion' pieces, although usually with the Grauniad and the Telegraph, because they take themselves far too seriously.

            2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

              Re: The real question

              but their science and tech is shamefully poor, all written by journalism grads who know nothing about anything technical

              Even worse that Rory "All I need to learn about technology I learnt from reading Apple Press Releases" Cellan-Jones?

              My missus tells me off for growling at the screen when he's on.

        2. David Gosnell

          Image in Independent article, linked above

          Doesn't that technically count as fellatio?

          1. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

            Re: Image in Independent article, linked above

            IIRC an episode of QI correctly, goose neck was once written about as the best thing to wipe one's bum with.

            So in short, I have no idea what's going on.

      2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        Re: The real question

        Yes - I am sure that this tale will expand alarmingly to reveal more detail

        The more eyes on the subject, the better!

        (PS: having stayed in a holiday cottage with peacocks and peahens all around the place, I can confirm that a) they wake up unfeasably early and b) they make a noise like a chicken being strangled which leads one to wonder if a peacock being throttled after it wakes you up at 5am makes the same noise..)

    2. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: The real question

      How much ad revenue did this "artist" collect?

      You mean "feather her nest"?

  2. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

    Call me a cynic

    But what's the betting that she did this for the free publicity?

    1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      Re: Call me a cynic

      But what's the betting

      I think you'd struggle to find a bookie that would give you any odd on that..

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    ""emotional support" peacock"? Sorry but that just doesn't fly with me.

    1. Christoph Silver badge

      Maybe take an emotional support Skunk with you on the plane?

      1. bombastic bob Silver badge
        Pint

        Maybe take an emotional support Skunk with you on the plane

        you deserve a beer!

        I can think of other 'emotional support' animals that would be equally disruptive...

        a) rattlesnake

        b) albatross

        c) tazmanian devil

        d) marlin

        1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

          Re: Maybe take an emotional support Skunk with you on the plane

          I can think of other 'emotional support' animals that would be equally disruptive

          You missed a few:

          e) Troupe of howler monkeys

          f) Siberian Tiger (thorn in the paw is optional)

          g) Grizzly bear that's just woken up from hibernation..

          1. Updraft102 Silver badge

            Re: Maybe take an emotional support Skunk with you on the plane

            Honey badger.

            It would make a great emotional support companion... just follow its example about things that scare you.

      2. Rich 11 Silver badge

        Maybe take an emotional support Skunk with you on the plane?

        It'd only be allowed aboard if it had come from Lockheed Skunkworks.

  4. NoneSuch
    WTF?

    I'm sure her comfort animal would be welcome on a train. In the baggage compartment.

    1. Ugotta B. Kiddingme
      Trollface

      Re: NoneSuch

      "I'm sure her comfort animal would be welcome on a train. In the baggage compartment."

      or the galley...

      1. Aladdin Sane Silver badge

        Re: NoneSuch

        Apparently it tastes like turkey.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: NoneSuch

          It does. Swan tastes of Golden Eagle too...

        2. Loyal Commenter Silver badge

          Re: NoneSuch

          Apparently it tastes like turkey.

          I was under the impression it was more like pheasant, since peafowl are basically larger, noisier, messier and more aggressive pheasants.

  5. EveryTime Silver badge

    17 hours gets you halfway across the country?

    If you can do that, you aren't taking a leisurely pace. Time to enter the 2904

    http://www.the2904.org/

    As for the main story, while the airlines probably didn't surreptitiously sponsor this, they certainly are cheering on this story. Free-riding "emotional support animals" cost them time, effort and potential revenue. Last month's dog attack on Delta is giving all of the airlines an opportunity and excuse to tighten the rules.

    And really, we all agree that the vast majority of "emotional support animals" are simply pets owned by self-centered people. They aren't in the same category of extensively trained service animals.

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      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Back in the 1970s a youngster said he had driven Jo'burg to Cape Town in 12 hours***. Owing to the Arab petrol restrictions at the time - the maximum speed limit had been reduced to 50mph. He said the various local town traffic police never caught him because they were not expecting someone to fly past their stationary vehicles at that speed.

        *** distance about 1200 miles - mostly on a pretty much dead straight road across a flat plateau with sparse populations.

        1. emmanuel goldstein

          I used to regularly drive Cape Town to Jo'burg and it's more like 850 miles. 12 hours is still very, very quick though!

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            "[...] and it's more like 850 miles"

            Maybe he took the scenic route :-)

            Must admit I didn't check my memory of the quoted distance. I only ever did it by plane.

    2. Mark 85 Silver badge

      Go back in time the infamous "Cannonball Run"....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Baker_Sea-To-Shining-Sea_Memorial_Trophy_Dash

    3. bombastic bob Silver badge
      Unhappy

      "They aren't in the same category of extensively trained service animals."

      ack - but try telling THAT to an S.J.W. that *FEELS* that all corporations (especially airlines) are evil entities that deserve to be punished... by THEM... at EVERY opportunity, no matter WHO gets inconvenienced.

      1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

        @BB

        Give it a rest eh? Your class war stchick is getting even more boring than usual.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: BB

          No, I don't want him too, although I disagree with BB on some things, YOU are not the arbiter of what's acceptable on here or did BB hurt YOUR "inside sjw"?

          After all, you were clearly triggered.

  6. Andytug

    Poor choice

    They are by some way the stupidest bird in the world, they make pheasants look intelligent.

    1. kain preacher Silver badge

      Re: Poor choice

      They are also mean.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Poor choice

        and very noisy. We spent a fitful night at Portmeirion when they had peacocks wandering about the place. I gather they don't have them now.

        1. Mage Silver badge

          Re: Poor choice

          Like tortured cats. Not pleasant to have on your roof at 2AM.

          The pea "hen" lays decent eggs, but is rather protective of them.

          Think swans, but really really noisy, egotistical and stupid.

          Guinea fowl are dumb too.

          Rooks may not be pretty, but very very much smarter.

          1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

            Re: Poor choice

            Rooks may not be pretty, but very very much smarter

            Rooks are corvids - which automatically makes them the top strata of bird intelligence.

            Tasty too - as my dad used to attest.

            1. Updraft102 Silver badge

              Re: Poor choice

              Rooks are corvids - which automatically makes them the top strata of bird intelligence.

              Tasty too - as my dad used to attest.

              Taking the "eat crow" thing a bit literally, ya?

        2. bombastic bob Silver badge

          Re: Poor choice

          I used to work near Scripps Ranch in San Diego, where there were a large number of peacocks. You could hear them sometimes in the parking lot, "Ar,AH!, Ar,AH!". I only live a few miles from there, and one day I saw a pea-hen on top of someone's car. The owners were trying to get it to come down. I guess it flew the ~10 miles from there (or maybe it was from the zoo, which is a little closer) and just landed on that car for no good reason, and just sat there. Those birds are HUGE.

    2. Dr Dan Holdsworth Silver badge

      Re: Poor choice

      I would second this.

      I heard a tale of a peacock sold by one farmer to another neighbouring farm. Periodically the peacock would decide to "go home", and would set off across the fields.

      It would be found, stuck in the same too-narrow gap in the same hedge every single time. It never learned not to enter tight holes in hedges, and it never remembered that that particular hedge was the problem.

      Truly, peacocks are incredibly thick birds!

      1. Andytug

        Re: Poor choice

        We had a large number of greenhouses behind our house, the peacocks from the house up the road would regularly walk along the guttering then fall through the glass and have to be chased out.

        Throwing things at them doesn't work, they are too stupid. Any other bird sees the movement of your arm going back and takes flight. A peacock watches the stone go past it and looks at it as if to say "oh look, a stone". They also don't move for cars at all, until you're practically touching its head with the bumper.

        Add the noise and why anyone thinks they're wrrth having is beyond me!

    3. nsld

      Re: Poor choice

      Going to have to disagree as I have the 'joy' of both a flock of peafowl and live on a shooting estate with loads of pheasants.

      The peafowl are streets ahead of the pheasants in intelligence terms.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Poor choice

      By stupid bird, are you referring to the "artist" or the peafowl???

  7. adam payne Silver badge

    A peacock as a comfort animal? sorry but this has publicity stunt written all over it.

  8. macjules Silver badge

    People Eating Tasting Comfort Animals?

    I frequently enjoy "comfort animals" on board a flight, usually accompanied with a glass or two of wine and seasonal vegetables on the side. Never had peacock as an option though.

    1. Eddy Ito Silver badge
      Thumb Up

      Re: People Eating Tasting Comfort Animals?

      Ah, coq au vin. An excellent choice.

    2. spold Bronze badge

      Re: People Eating Tasting Comfort Animals?

      Here you go https://aussiehunter.org/simple-easy-dinner-recipes/game-bird-recipes/roast-peacock-recipe/

      It's an Australian link so make sure you have your Peacock the right way up.

      p.s. give it a good stuffing first

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Brian don't...

    The bird is the word!

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