back to article UK.gov puts Suffolk 7-year-old's submarine design into production

The British government has put a seven-year-old boy's design for a submarine into production, saying the lad had "really thought about" his work. Apprentices from the Defence Science and Technology Lab (DSTL) took a submarine sketch sent to the government-owned lab by seven-year-old Jacob Bland, from Suffolk, which he said …

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Art World

Well, the modern art world looks as if it has beaten the tech world to it. The former has been producing work that is not out of place in a primary/elementary schools for quite a while now.

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It seems that art education now is about "concept" rather than the practical skills to achieve the result. The people who actually do the work are lower paid skilled craft workers who rarely get any public recognition.

The same was true in the past as well. Once a painter/sculptor had achieved fame they set up a studio where their actual work on a piece was often minimal. Their students/assistants did the bulk of it from possibly a rough sketch. The sculptor Donald de Lue was apprenticed at 12 - but was 40 before he could take credit for his work. He had been used to do the bodies in a studio where the famous owner was only good at doing faces - but who then took the credit for the whole piece.

The awards in the cinema world often go to the owner of an SFX studio rather than their employees/contractors who actually do the creative work and implementation.

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The same was true in the past as well.

Yeah, but at least one didn't have to put up with "Piss Christ" and similar work of arts being published in the "news".

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Piss Christ is 30 years old. I don’t think it’s particularly good but if you’re still banging on about it and think it’s representative of all contemporary art since then, you must be really angry. Quite pissed off, in fact.

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He's cross because he didn't get credit for producing all that piss. The artist just took it.

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"He's cross because he didn't get credit for producing all that piss. The artist just took it."

That's the crux of the matter, I think. You've nailed it.

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Re: Art World

The same was true in the past as well. Once a painter/sculptor had achieved fame they set up a studio where their actual work on a piece was often minimal. Their students/assistants did the bulk of it from possibly a rough sketch. The sculptor Donald de Lue was apprenticed at 12 - but was 40 before he could take credit for his work. He had been used to do the bodies in a studio where the famous owner was only good at doing faces - but who then took the credit for the whole piece.

Sure they didn't work for Dyson?

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Piss Christ is 30 years old

About time for a resurrection, then?

Someone get the ball rolling. It's time for this thing to see the light of day.

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I can tell them that for free

"Its remit stretches from figuring out how many aircraft can be usefully kept on the flight deck of Britain's two new aircraft carriers (a process known as "spotting" jets and helicopters)"

A: none, as they haven't been delivered yet.

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A: all of them as we can't afford any more

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The term 'spotting' had me spluttering tea when I read it.

" Binoculars No1!"

"Yessir"

" I've just spotted an aircraft carrier but I can't seem to spot any aircraft aboard her."

"Nossir, they haven't inflated the dummies yet because it's windy and they keep blowing off the deck.

They don't actually have any real ones yet Sir."

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A: all of them as we can't afford any more

Both of them?

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That's easy then... one airplane on the deck and one down below getting "maintenance".

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he said they could use for "sneaking and spying".

"sneaking and spying" - this young lad has understood where we're going to....

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Re: he said they could use for "sneaking and spying".

"Sneaking" = roaming the sewer to get from house to house. "Spying" = popping up in the loo to gather as much sigint on the general populace as possible.

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I'm just glad they are finding good uses for the 800m fund. I might send them a picture of a jet for our jet-less boats.

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I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't had a wizard wheeze over at the MoD and is even now explaining how much more credible our battle fleet would be if only we could persuade our potential naval enemies to get into a bathtub with the First Sea Lord...

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"contracts for organic undersea weaponisation"

I see what you did there. Needs a natty acronym though. What about Seagoing High Art and Research by Kids?

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A whole generation of kids love submarines, thank to Octonauts.

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Creature report! creature report!

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"A whole generation of kids love submarines, thank to Octonauts."

An earlier generation was entralled by the first nuclear powered submarine USS Nautilus that crossed the Arctic ice under water. Kellogs cereal packets contained a plastic model of it. You added a pinch of baking powder and put it in a bowl/sink/bath full of water. It sank then eventually resurfaced as carbon dioxide was produced.

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Here on the right hand side of the pond, when I were a lad I seem to vaguely recall a baking-powder-based sub free with corn flakes too. Not sure it was the Nautilus, but the details may come back to me shortly, given that Anything Can Happen In The Next Half Hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs (I had one of those too).

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OK, we'll standby for action then...

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"A whole generation of kids love submarines, thank to Octonauts."

We've got a fishy situation!

Always makes me snigger...

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My generation was probably inspired by "Stingray"(repeats not original showing) and "Marine Boy".

Mine's the one with the packet of Oxygum in the pocket.

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Two series here

1) Stingray, with Troy Tempest

2) Voyage to the bottom of the sea, with Seaview and the Flying Sub

Flying sub still works as well

https://www.scifiairshow.com/flying-sub

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Yup, My kids grew up with Octonauts and now my kids love The Deep

The Deep is great, its made me want to learn to scuba dive and crew a boat!

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You missed out Thunderbird 4.

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"Here on the right hand side of the pond, when I were a lad I seem to vaguely recall a baking-powder-based sub free with corn flakes too."

I remember a baking powder powered deep sea diver. You put it in a quart pop bottle with lukewarm water and could make the diver ascend and descend by tightening or loosening the bottle top.

"Anything Can Happen In The Next Half Hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06cNv55jTs"

Which leads to other gems. That's this weekend's Youtube viewing sorted out. Ta muchly!

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Or if you're of a slightly practical nature and want something to make with the kids, there's always the classic cartesian diver project.

Just needs a soda bottle, a pen lid and a bit of blu-tac or plasticine.

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Toy sub

Years ago I worked on an MoD submarine project and one of the ex-submariners on the project told me how he once tried to play a practical joke on his c/o by putting one of these into an envelope with a note saying "latest submarine design", sealed the envelope, stamped it Top Secret and then put it into an internal post envelope addressed to the Head of the Submarine Service in Whitehall. He was expecting his c/o to remove the package from the out tray (as they're always nosey and would never have let something out to such a senior officer without it going up through the chain of command). Needless to say, something happened, it wasn't intercepted and it was indeed delivered.

Fortunately the top bod had a sense of humour and returned it with a note saying something like "Excellent innovation, design approved". But he sent it back via his chain of command. And as the top bod had found it funny, each subordinate down the chain then felt obliged to add a note showing that they too found it funny.

A week or so later he got called into his c/o's office who said he couldn't give him a bollocking because the top bod had approved it, and the notes from those down the chain of command were simultaneously hilarious and cringeworthy as each tried to be more witty than the previous.

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Subby McSubface

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Will that meme ever endy-McEndface?

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never McNeverface!

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Reminds me of one in the town where I was born...

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Was the sky blue and the sea green?

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in the town where I was born...

Reimnds me of a Scandinavian ferry with someone starting to sing and the entire restaurant joining in.

I simply cannot imagine that happening with any of today's so-called hits.

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How bad are the army budget cuts when a 7 year old's crayon drawing of a submarine is good enough to be designed and possibly produced?

Well done Jacob.

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I suspect the army's budget for submarines has always been pretty small...

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That's HMS Astute of you

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Cue Beatles

Yellow submarine

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My earlier comment was probably too sub-tle

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At least it didn't sink.

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And why not

we have the brain of a 3 year old managing aircraft carriers.

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Back Doors

It's a real shame. The kid produced a workable design.

Now that the grubbymint's techies have actually built one, it'll be bound to have a nice leaky back door installed somewhere.

Th protect the children, natch.

He should've sent the design to Mr Albert Kyeda, or whatever he calls himself these days. He'd get it to fly.

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Lighten up Francis....

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves... taking a Reg headline at face value.

Enjoy this for what it is. What would normally be considered a faceless government agency has tickled a kid silly by taking his drawing and putting it to 'official' use as a design exercise for their interns. The kid is thrilled, and the interns had a fun challenge. Win/Win!

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Re: Lighten up Francis....

Ohhh, we're digging it, and I'm happy for the kid. But ya gotta admit, it's too good an opportunity for humor to pass up!

I hope someone makes the kid a remote-control version to take home!

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Re: Lighten up Francis....

Absolutely and who knows if this now turns into a new efficient design that no one every thought of because it's just silly. OK at 7 the chances are the child just drew something but good things have come because someone who doesn't know it's impossible does the impossible.

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Thumbs up

So glad to see the encouragement of youngsters to study STEM.

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Verity Jackson with the new boat

How on earth are they going to get a crew into that little boat?

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