back to article Murdoch's Fox empire is set to become a literal Mickey Mouse outfit

Most of Rupert Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox empire is being flogged to Disney for $66bn, including large chunks of the film and telly businesses. An announcement from the Walt Disney Company, as old Walt’s empire is formally known, said that a “definitive agreement” had been entered into between 21st Century Fox and Disney. “ …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Does the T stand for Tiberius?

    1. iron Silver badge

      THE, duh

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        duh doesn't start with T?

      2. The Indomitable Gall

        @iron

        " THE, duh "

        Ooh, embedded initialisms!

        What does T.H.E. stand for?

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      >Does the T stand for Tiberius?

      No, Twat

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        I hardly think a children's entertainer is going to have twat as a middle name, you wouldn't get to the interview stage.

        1. Teiwaz Silver badge

          Childrens Entertainer

          I hardly think a children's entertainer is going to have twat as a middle name, you wouldn't get to the interview stage.

          Well, a fair number of childrens entertainers from the 70s and 80's proved to be poor choices in retrospect, despite mostly only having mildly silly names and only somewhat ridiculous looks....

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  3. iron Silver badge

    With this buy Disney will finally own the rights to all the Star Wars films (currently Fox own the rights to Star Wars itself). This would make it possible for Disney to re-release the original trilogy as it was filmed, without George Lucas' later vandalism.

    1. ThomH Silver badge

      The Finally-Freed-From-The-Tyranny-Of-Its Director's Cut?

      1. Voland's right hand Silver badge

        The Finally-Freed-From-The-Tyranny-Of-Its Director's Cut?

        Three hurrays, a Wookie growl and a talking penguin squeak for that idea.

        1. Aqua Marina Silver badge

          It also means that the new Star Wars films can have the 21st Century Fox fanfare at the beginning of the films again. It hasn’t felt the same without that in the past couple of films.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Maybe we can get a smashup with the Alien franchise.

          Wookies vs. Aliens.

          vs. Goofy

          on Tron bikes.

          and Captain Hook is coming too.

          Mickey isn’t actually the Disney corporate spokesman. Just in case anyone out there was dim enough to take that seriously.

          WUH? DUH?

          Ok, it's the 21st century and suicidal "millenials" are coming online, but still...

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            What about the ultimate battle?

            Aliens & Predators Vs Ewoks and Wookies

            1. Chemical Bob Bronze badge

              Aliens and Predators vs Steamboat Willie

              1. Teiwaz Silver badge

                Aliens and Predators vs Steamboat Willie

                Non one is going to be able to convince that's not a porno....

          2. Alan Brown Silver badge

            "Maybe we can get a smashup with the Alien franchise."

            Yes...... Disney owns Fox, Fox owns Alien.

            The daughters of the Alien queen are now Disney princesses.

    2. BillG Silver badge
      Mushroom

      The New Star Trek

      All I care about is, Disney better not screw with The Orville.

      1. Ledswinger Silver badge

        Re: The New Star Trek

        What you LIKE Orville? F*** me backwards. In the UK, EVERYBODY hates Orville. You know why?

        https://youtu.be/2c8PUVIKgI4?t=11

        That's why. I appreciate the US remake lost something of the original, but isn't that always the way?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: The New Star Trek

          Not as much as cuddles.

        2. Uncle Slacky Silver badge

          Re: The New Star Trek

          At least the American Orville can actually fly...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      These are not the 4k blu-rays you are looking for.

    4. pisquee

      Can we just have the 21st Century Fox Fanfare put at the beginning on the Disney/Star Wars films now?!

  4. alain williams Silver badge

    A very rich mouse

    I wonder what Murdoch will do with the money ?

    1. Reader2435

      Re: A very rich mouse

      I wonder what Murdoch will do with the money ?

      Probably hoping to do a deal to buy immortality... with whoever can supply it...

      1. Mike Lewis

        Re: A very rich mouse

        Rupert's mum lived until she was 103 so we might be stuck with Rupert for a while yet (he's 86).

        In all the interviews I saw with Elisabeth Murdoch, I'm disappointed that no-one asked the question "What do you think went wrong with your and Keith's child rearing?"

        1. Tigra 07 Silver badge

          Re: A very rich mouse

          His ruthlessness probably made him what he is today (INSERT EXPLETIVES HERE). Good job he never went into the banking industry...

      2. Tim99 Silver badge

        Re: A very rich mouse

        "Probably hoping to do a deal to buy immortality... with whoever can supply it...

        I thought that after living a very long and evil life serving the dark side, he was killed?

        Oh, sorry, I got confused, that was the Palpatine Emperor; an easy mistake to make.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: A very rich mouse

      "wonder what Murdoch will do with the money"

      Probs the same as any other person in their mid 80's who comes into some money. Coke, hookers and werthers originals.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: A very rich mouse

        >Coke, hookers and werthers originals.

        And industrial quantities of Viagra

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: A very rich mouse

      ferrero rocher of course and maybe buy a small island so he can shoot poor people to death on it.

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: A very rich mouse

      Buy an Internet Service Provider in the U.S. natch'. Coincidence that they sold at about the same time that net neutrality was rescinded - methinks not.

    5. Ledswinger Silver badge

      Re: A very rich mouse

      I wonder what Murdoch will do with the money ?

      I don't know, but AFAIAA, he won't be taking it to any afterlife. Maybe he spend it all on gold, and have his body cast at the centre of a vast ingot of the stuff?

      Then the rest of humanity could bury the ingot under a public convenience.

  5. frank ly Silver badge

    re. Bootnote

    Mr. Mouse is definitely in charge and very much hands-on.

    NSFW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4_4g1B2Ug

  6. mark l 2 Silver badge

    I noticed that Fox news was not included in the deal, I wonder if that is because Disney didn't want to be spending money on the pile of crap that passes as a news channel.

    Since news channels are costly to run and don't usually make money for TV networks how long it will it survive without the financial backing of the rest of the Fox media empire to prop it up remains to be seen.

    I wonder if Murdoch knows something we don't why he is keen to get rid of his assets, with all the recent allegations of sexual misconduct going around the media industry, perhaps he thinks he could be in the firing line next and wants to sell before shares of Fox plummeted on some allegations against him.

    1. Daedalus Silver badge

      Git while the gittin's good?

      I think Murdoch is seeing the end times for mass market entertainment and has decided to cash in his chips while they're still worth something.

    2. Steve the Cynic Silver badge

      I noticed that Fox news was not included in the deal, I wonder if that is because Disney didn't want to be spending money on the pile of crap that passes as a news channel.

      There might be regulatory issues that prevent them from keeping it.

      They might also not want to be involved in news broadcasting at all, no matter what the political and other nature of the station.

      1. Mike Moyle Silver badge

        I assume that Fox "News" and such aren't included because Disney already owns the American Broadcasting Company (ABC) network, which owns 8 stations on its own dime, and serves 230-some-odd affiliate stations -- making it the largest broadcaster by station-count in the country -- and figures that adding MORE stations might invite more anti-trust scrutiny that it's ALREADY going to get.

        (Also, ABC's national news operation is generally pretty centrist and well respected by all but the most partisan viewers and critics and why would they want to risk that by stirring Fox "News" into the pot?)

        1. My other car is an IAV Stryker

          Re: News, TV stations, and SPORTS

          I agree with others that the right-vs-left Fox News vs. WDC (as a whole) could have been a factor, but I imagine the ownership of competing TV affiliates was the potential deal-breaker from the FCC.

          I'm glad, because on the sports side I can only watch my favorite BIG (Big Ten) football teams (that's collegiate gridiron, folks) on either ESPN/ABC or Fox Sports / Big Ten Network (Fox owns half of BTN; the conference owns the other half). ESPN/ABC rarely carry Big Ten, and when they do it seems the commentards are biased towards the non-Big Ten opponent no matter what. Fox/BTN's visuals aren't as good, but at least they try to show some love for the teams, and lately the school marching bands too. (Woo! Go band!!!) As much as I dislike the current situation, making BTN (and Fox Sports) go away would be a "bad thing".

          I also like pro hockey, of which ESPN cares NOTHING about, and NBC Sports is as lousy as ESPN above. I'll keep Fox Sport's hockey coverage, thank you. (Except for those wonderful times my local team happens to be on CBC's Hockey Night in Canada, despite -- obviously -- not being Canadian. My TV service includes the nearest CBC channel. The resolution isn't always great but HNIC is full-HD and awesome.)

          Now excuse me, I have a New Year's Day bowl game to prepare for. I'm thinking a big (crock-)pot of chili. If the game is at noon, I better start the day before and have it simmering by midnight (6 hours minimum, 9 hours desired, 12 hours best).

    3. Zippy's Sausage Factory

      I suspect there are two reasons and it's a combination of the two.

      First being that Murdoch came from a news background, news is what he knows and disrupting industries is something he has done in the past, so he sees a future in the changing news market and has an idea about how he can benefit from that change, and that idea requires money.

      The second is that Disney already owns some news and sports networks (proper news, not like Fox*) and wouldn't be interested in the deal if they were included - ESPN is losing enough money thanks, and the possible antitrust implications of the news networks are also a no-no. Therefore if the news and sport were included, Disney wouldn't be interested.

      * Before anyone trolls me, Fox were taken to court in 1994. Their defence was that unlike other news stations they are not obliged to tell the truth as they are under an "opinion" licence, not a "news" licence like CNN or MSNBC. They won. Therefore I feel completely justified calling Fox "the home of fake news", as they have admitted in court that they make things up and are legally entitled to do so.

      1. Tigra 07 Silver badge
        Unhappy

        RE: Zippy's Sausage

        But but Donald Trump says CNN is the home of the fake news?

        You mean they're just lying bastards but not as bad as Fox?

      2. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        "Their defence was that unlike other news stations they are not obliged to tell the truth as they are under an "opinion" licence, not a "news" licence like CNN or MSNBC. They won. Therefore I feel completely justified calling Fox "the home of fake news", as they have admitted in court that they make things up and are legally entitled to do so."

        They really ought to have a "For entertainment purposes only" disclaimer on screen at all times.

    4. AndyN33

      Disney already own ABC News, so they didn't take Fox News due to monopoly concerns possibly slowing down the deal (or even stopping it completely).

    5. Blank Reg Silver badge

      I expect Disney just didn't want to have any association with the steaming pile of lying crap that is fox news as it doesn't work with the corporate image that they want to project.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        "I expect Disney just didn't want to have any association with the steaming pile of lying crap that is fox news"

        On the other hand they could have picked it up and then immediately shut it down.

    6. Mark 85 Silver badge

      I noticed that Fox news was not included in the deal, I wonder if that is because Disney didn't want to be spending money on the pile of crap that passes as a news channel.

      So Fox News won't officially be a Mickey Mouse company? Shocked, I am.

    7. Teiwaz Silver badge

      , I wonder if that is because Disney didn't want to be spending money on the pile of crap that passes as a news channel.

      Nah, Fox News is not even a fairy tale the mouser could make watchable, even if they only release it to rent/buy/whatever only when Halleys comet is close.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I refused to pay for Sky because it was Murdoch owned, expensive and shit, so I now refuse to pay for it because it's American owned, expensive and shit (q.v. Virgin Media)

    1. Ledswinger Silver badge

      I now refuse to pay for it because it's American owned, expensive and shit

      And likely to be much more expensive soon, as Disney try and recoup the billions of dollars of "goodwill" they've likely acquired.

      Any existing Sky customer celebrating that they soon won't be contributing to the old scrote's coffers might want to brace themselves for two or three years of double digit price rises (as happened when Virginmedia got bought out by Libertyglobal).

  8. Alistair Silver badge
    Windows

    Okay -- so -- now, The CopyRight should exist FOREVER company just bought .....

    oh never mind. Likely someone has said it in one of the movies that Disney now owns and I'll end up driving rendering clusters in a basement in california for $3/hr 19hr/day 363 days a year for the rest of my life if I continue.

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