back to article Giza geezers' muon-geyser visor reveals Great Pyramid's hidden void surpriser

Scientists have uncovered a hidden void in the largest pyramid in Giza, Egypt, using muons – a particle typically produced by cosmic rays, according to new research published today. The Great Pyramid, also known as Khufu’s Pyramid, standing over 146 meters (481 feet) tall, was built during the reign of Pharaoh Khufu from 2509 …

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  1. Franklin

    It has to be be where the ancient Egyptians stored the grain. I heard it from a US politician, so it must be true!

    1. Mark 110 Silver badge

      I am hoping its the Stargate chamber.

      1. Unicornpiss Silver badge
        Happy

        "I am hoping its the Stargate chamber."

        You beat me to it

  2. Keef

    'a particle usually found in cosmic rays'

    Not according to Wikipedia and every other reference I've looked up so far.

    More a by product of high energy radiation interacting with other stuff (sorry if I got a bit technical at the end there).

    /pedant

    1. Richard Boyce

      Re: 'a particle usually found in cosmic rays'

      Muons are very unstable, so don't travel very far before they decay. Better would be "a particle usually made by impacts with cosmic rays".

    2. diodesign (Written by Reg staff) Silver badge

      Re: 'a particle usually found in cosmic rays'

      It's fixed. Don't forget to email corrections@ if you spot any errors.

      C.

      1. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: 'a particle usually found in cosmic rays'

        What's not mentioned is that muons were proposed as a tool for examination over 45 years ago and now we finally have the technology to actually try it.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Is it an Alien spacecraft hanger or the Pharaoh's shed. I love a good mystery.

    1. Pen-y-gors Silver badge

      Is it an Alien spacecraft hanger ?

      Definitely. Other less-august publications than El Reg described it as 'the size of an aircraft' - presumably a point wisely ignored by El Reg as they omit to say whether they mean a microlite or a Spruce Goose.

      1. The other JJ

        Surely El Reg should describe its size in approved Vulture Central units, so in this case the number of Olympic swimming pools or double-decker buses that would fit in it.

    2. Tikimon Silver badge
      Angel

      We should have anticipated this...

      Only today a forgotten fragment of an old papyrus revealed the answer. It's the private Love Shack the Pharaoh was to use in the afterlife. Breaking with known traditions, its decoration makes extensive use of red pigments and long-haired animal skins (shag carpet being four millennia away). There's a small cold-box for beer and light snacks. The walls are covered with provocative erotic artwork, and lined with lavishly painted chests that hold the divine sex toys. There used to be a highly-polished reflective panel on the ceiling, but its frame deteriorated and it fell long ago.

      Seduction pads haven't changed much in 4000 years.

      1. IceC0ld Bronze badge

        Re: We should have anticipated this...

        it's THE original man cave :o)

  4. Steve Aubrey
    Joke

    Drilling for a cavity?

    What are you - dental, or something??

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Drilling for a cavity?

      They will get to the tooth.

    2. Korev Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: Drilling for a cavity?

      Ouch! Bad pun, I'm going to tell my mummy on you...

  5. Big John Silver badge

    Do not disturb

    The void appears to parallel the Grand Gallery. Might be a structural void to unload the roof of the GG, similar to above the King's Chamber.

    Or, it could be where they put all the human sacrifices...

    1. dan1980

      Re: Do not disturb

      @Big John

      Or a simple f%$k up. So yeah, possibly a few dead engineers and workers there . . .

      1. jmch Silver badge
        Alien

        Re: Do not disturb

        "possibly a few dead engineers and workers there"

        What was discovered is a space that didn't absorb muons as much as rock. Maybe not empty space but full of MUMMIES!!!!

  6. Charlie van Becelaere
    Alien

    What this guy says

    http://iheardacouplethings.blogspot.com/2011/07/seventeen-lost-pyramids-have-been-found.html

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge
      Facepalm

      Re: What this guy says

      I read the first sentence at that link and thought "oh, that's interesting" because there has been recent archaeological discoveries in Egypt and elsewhere using exactly that technique. Then I carried on reading the next few sentences before promptly hitting the big X.

      1. Youngone Silver badge

        Re: What this guy says

        The major disappointment is that there are no comments.

        That is where the real gold is on those sorts of sites.

        1. PNGuinn Silver badge
          Boffin

          Drill a small hole ...

          "Apart from the size of the space, little is known about the void. To explore this further, the team are thinking about drilling a very small hole – measuring a few centimetres across – so that a tiny robot can fly inside to reveal the hidden details of the cavity."

          May have been worthwhile yesterday. The truth's out now.

          Them grave robberz move fast. Especially the onez who read elReg'

          >> You'll need Elf 'n safety gear to drill a hole ....

        2. Tikimon Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: What this guy says

          "The major disappointment is that there are no comments."

          I've noticed that cranks and crazies and rabid ideologues often don't allow comments. They really don't want to hear anything that contradicts their utter BS.

          I've also noticed that many sane folks often don't allow comments. They really don't want to deal with the cranks and crazies and rabid ideologues who chime in with utter BS.

          1. Big John Silver badge

            Re: What this guy says

            > "I've noticed that cranks and crazies and rabid ideologues often don't allow comments. They really don't want to hear anything that contradicts their utter BS."

            I believe most cranks have no problem hearing things that contradict their world view, and often host such material on their own sites. Countering and 'debunking' those things is what defines them online, after all.

            It's just that they don't care for other people debunking them, certainly not on their own site! Throws a spanner into the 'crank case,' as it were.

            1. Throatwarbler Mangrove Silver badge
              Happy

              Re: What this guy says

              "I believe most cranks have no problem hearing things that contradict their world view"

              Ironic, coming from you.

    2. Trigonoceps occipitalis

      Re: What this guy says

      "but we prefer not to indulge in such unfounded speculation."

      Yeh, right.

  7. Len Goddard

    Done before?

    I could swear that someone tried this sort of cosmic ray tomography years ago without succes, but googling for it is more or less impossible because all you get is results from the latest effort.

    1. Sandtitz Silver badge
      FAIL

      Re: Done before?

      Uh, if you're Googling for it then click on the search tools above the search results, and select an end date from e.g. last year.

      1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

        Re: Done before?

        The original experiments were by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Walter_Alvarez

    2. Alan Brown Silver badge

      Re: Done before?

      Something similar was tried in the 1970s but because they got the dimensions wrong, the results were gibberish (which von Danniken and friends ascribed to "aliens"). Once the measurements were corrected there was nothing interesting showing.

  8. Mark 85 Silver badge

    Isn't this an old movie plot?

    So drilling a small hole won't awaken whatever is sleeping there? I do wonder how bad the sleeper can be though.

    1. Big John Silver badge

      Re: Isn't this an old movie plot?

      This plot writes itself, starting with an enraged army of radioactive mummies pouring from a newly opened breach in the Great Pyramid. Millions running for shelter with the last of the toilet paper and canned goods. The military forms a defensive ring around the power plant, as usual. Civilization hangs in the balance.

      Mummies are finally defeated via Gregorian chants played at high volume. Dead mummies come in surprisingly handy during ensuing toilet paper crisis.

      1. jmch Silver badge
        Coffee/keyboard

        Re: Isn't this an old movie plot?

        "Dead mummies come in surprisingly handy during ensuing toilet paper crisis"

        Pfffffffffffffwwhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      2. Muscleguy Silver badge

        Re: Isn't this an old movie plot?

        They used to burn them for fuel in steam locomotives back in the day. Ordinary Joe Mummies were buried in the sand where they dessicated. They would erode out of sand dunes and were very common. Whereas wood was more expensive and scarce.

    2. Lee D Silver badge

      Re: Isn't this an old movie plot?

      "You've come to destroy the Earth? Too late, mate, we've already got Trump."

  9. Commswonk Silver badge

    Do things the hard way...

    To explore this further, the team are thinking about drilling a very small hole – measuring a few centimetres across – so that a tiny robot can fly inside to reveal the hidden details of the cavity.

    Not sure that I would describe a hole a few centimetres across as "very small"; apart from that would a drain camera not be a better way of conducting an internal examination? Endoscopy on an archeological scale...

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      Re: Do things the hard way...

      "would a drain camera not be a better way of conducting an internal examination? "

      Yeah, miniature flying robots seems to be a technological step too far, especially since they need to invent them first.

      1. Commswonk Silver badge

        Re: Do things the hard way...

        And would need a second one to carry some sort of illumination, come to think of it; not an issue with an endoscope, at least for a small area.

      2. PNGuinn Silver badge
        Pint

        Re: Do things the hard way...

        "Yeah, miniature flying robots seems to be a technological step too far, especially since they need to invent them first."

        Please sir .... The Senior Service appear to have a new prototype drone flying boat they're trialling. HMS Darlington.

        >> The only wetness available. We need a tot 'O rum icon.

      3. Wiltshire

        Re: Do things the hard way...

        They've already been invented.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36313958

      4. Holtsmark

        Re: Do things the hard way...

        Nope, you just need to know where to buy one.

        http://www.proxdynamics.com/home

        Using on-board low power illumination and the night vision camera, it us much easier to fully explore a large void as the one detected, than it is to use an endoscope.

        Having seen one in action, I must say that this is a serious piece of equipment, not comparable to a $20 toy from China.

      5. Tikimon Silver badge

        Re: Do things the hard way...

        Flying bots sound lovely, but don't forget you're asking your transmitter to penetrate around 100 feet of near-solid rock to reach the drone. That's a tough order, not to mention sending your camera feed back to the pilot. You could go autonomous, but that's asking for disaster when so little is known about what might be in there.

        1. Francis Boyle Silver badge

          Re: Do things the hard way...

          They're going to need something to transport the drone down the borehole so it shouldn't be too difficult to arrange to send a antenna with it. They'd probably also need to come up with some way to recharge the drone unless they can arrange a bulk discount.

  10. Oldfogey

    I reckon they'll find a giant statue of Hat, the Vulture-Headed God of Unexpected Guests.

    1. Stratman

      Or an incredibly sharp razor blade

    2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

      I reckon they'll find a giant statue of Hat, the Vulture-Headed God of Unexpected Guests.

      Aha! The identity of the Secret Senior[1] Editor at El Reg is finally uncovered..

      [1] Very. Considering that the pyramid has been in place for ~6500 years.. Still - the SSE would have had time to get up a good head of Bile..

  11. InfiniteApathy
    Pint

    For whoever came up with that glorious title ----->

    1. MichaelBirks

      Abso-fracking-loutely.

      The headlnes are one of the reasons I keep coming to El Reg.

    2. Tikimon Silver badge
      Angel

      almost...

      It's good, but it would improve with "Giza GAZERS' muon..." Unless the research team had some really old folks in it "geezers" is the wrong choice.

  12. Johnny Canuck

    This is why mummies are afraid of cats - because the cats will unravel them. For evidence see any number of cat and toilet paper pictures/videos on the internet.

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