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Apple apparently deploys resources comparable to the security apparatus of a repressive Cold War Balkan state to try to prevent leaks. To very little effect. And with magnificent irony, it seems to have itself to blame for the biggest leak of all. On Friday, several news outlets received a drop of what appeared to be a late …

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Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

So, these emoji things are not standardised in terms of appearance? Is this like a font change? How many different representations of poo are there?

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

<p>Well, not exactly, it is animated, so not a font as such, more like an animated image ... \u1F4A9 is the unicode symbol, representation depends on the font your browser uses ...</p>

Sorry, I initially copy-pasted the unicode character, however, I got the dreadded:

The post contains some characters we can’t support.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

The description of what they are supposed to represent is the same for each unicode location. However the company that creates the emoji can represent it however they want - from basic mono to full colour animated.

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While Emoji are controlled and ratified by Unicode the actual interpretation is down to the individual vendor. There is a great 99% Invisible podcast about how emoji get proposed and accepted. Worth a listen: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/person-lotus-position/

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

Going by the Bristol Stool Chart, obviously just one representation is not enough!

That categorises 7 different types of poo.

Now wash your hands ---->

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

I would be more impressed if they had an olfactory emitter which produced the appropriate odour.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

Len Goddard, if my memory serves me right they had the respective "olfactory emitter" sone years ago in desktop products. Problem was that the emission of stink wasn't striktly limited to when a poo icon was displayed on screen. For those affected it was rather constant. And not very popular either.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

There are many representations of poo. There are even many animated representations of poo (or representations of animated poo, if you prefer).

Here's the description of one. See if you can figure out what it is (answer at end).

Imagine a dog laying a dog egg. A rather round one. Impressed by this, the dog decides to lay a second egg on top of the first. This second egg is given a slight sculpting on top, by artistically crimping it off using the anal sphincter. The double dog-egg works wonders and starts dancing around.

Yes, it's EDF's "Zingy" mascot.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

Mr Pratchett would be proud of you sir.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

"Well, not exactly, it is animated"

What were they thinking?! Animated poo is one of the last things any sane person would ever want to see!

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

The graphic implementation of unicode emoji is up to vendors. Thankfully Google, in Oreo, has abandoned its weird 'smudged thumb print' style of emoji in favour of those that resemble every other vendor's (IRC, forums, WhatsApp, iOS to name but a few) since the days of acid house.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

How many representations? I count 12...

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Re: Bristol Stool Chart

@Simon Harris

If you're impressed by the Bristol Stool Chart then you'll be overwhelmed by this (not entirely suitable for work). The Top 20 puts the BSC to shame. Especially the guy at what I hope was one of Donald Trump's golf courses.

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

What were they thinking?!

When I first heard of an emoji film I thought it was a bad joke. Then missus assured me that it is actually a real thing. Which sane person would want to watch this? So, animated poo seems less of a surprise now.

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Re: Animated poo is one of the last things any sane person would ever want to see!

Howdy-ho, everyone!

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

No, in the same way that the letter "a" is not standardised in appearance, it will appear differently on your screen depending on your font selections, the poo character is also not standardised.

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"...So, these emoji things are not standardised in terms of appearance?"

Not at all. The Unicode consortium provides charts with example glyphs at

http://www.unicode.org/charts/

Each chart contains boilerplate that says, among other things :

"The shapes of the reference glyphs used in these code charts are not prescriptive. Considerable variation is to be expected in actual fonts."

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Seven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_stool_scale

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Re: Howdy-ho, everyone!

Well, OK, Christmas Poo is special...

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Re: Apple has redrawn the poo emoji

Going by the Bristol Stool Chart...

A nurser here once asked me what it was about Scottish people like me that made us examples for the Glasgow Coma Scale (GCS). I asked her what was it about people like her from the "West Country" that made them subjects for the BSS...

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Re: Animated poo is one of the last things any sane person would ever want to see!

@TRT

You started it. You posted a video. I have no choice but to retaliate with the nuclear option. Not entirely suitable for work.

Cake?

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Re: Frank ly

Depends what you've eaten usually...

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Not sure whether this is news-worthy

Been getting regular updates of the public beta iOS, at shorter and shorter intervals. More could change between now and ... tomorrow... so no-one knows whether this is the one which will inhabit the new phone.

AND teasers found in the code do not necessarily mean the feature will ever happen.

I’ll wait for the real thing, thanks, the more important item being when the phone will go on sale!!

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Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

X? Putting X in the name?

Why are publicity depts so useless and lazy with product names these days? X sounded futuristic in 1975, kids toys have X on them 'cos kids are a bit dopey, not bloody expensive gadgets for grown adults. Canon's flagship camera the 1DX, latest incarnation...the 1DX Mk II! *clap* *clap* *clap*, special kind of genius at work there in the naming dept!

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

wow calm down,

its the ten year anniversary of the iPhone, 'X' is ten in Roman numerals & they've used X before as in OS X, as in the tenth incarnation of Mac OS. This phone is their celebration edition, hence iPhone X.

Its sad that it needs to be explained to someone on a tech site.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Wait for the iPhone XXX

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Granted that X is Roman numeral for 10 and anniversary, right. Apple is STILL late to the "X implies high-tech" party. Be honest, if you see anything named "Product X" these days, you sneer a little. If you're an Apple fan you might suddenly decide to give them a special pass, but it's still an old, tired naming convention and shrieking "tenth anniversary!!!" won't change that.

They could have done better.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Be honest, if you see anything named "Product X" these days, you sneer a little.

Yup no one else is using it because it so last century.

Xbox One X ?

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

@Version 1.0

That would be the Amsterdam Version...

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

"Wait for the iPhone XXX"

The iPhone 101010.

That's a mouthful. Do you think Apple will still be around then?

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Re: The iPhone 101010

The answer to the great question of life, the universe and everything.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

"Wait for the iPhone XXX"

Does that have an extra strong vibration mode?

'I can't turn it up to 8 - it'll blow my cock off!' - the IT crowd angle.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Mine's a 6X thanks...

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Wait for the iPhone XXX

With extra Vin Diesel? I think I'll pass.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Wait for the iPhone XXX"

The iPhone 101010.

Roman numerals are additive - XXX is 30. That's another 20 years, so just before the y2k38 bug hits therefore I expect they'll still be around.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Wait for the iPhone XXX

Complete with tired old pizza delivery schtick and as fresh and natural as late 80's silicon enhancement....

almost there a decade early...

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Remember Mac OS X?

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

Available already with the right background photo and ring tone.

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

I'm waiting for the iPhoneXIT

(actually I am waiting for the fanboy downvotes now)

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

UNIX, NeXT, OSX, XDA Developers, X Window... Nothing wrong with X. To be futuristic with go-faster stripes, you need an X and a Z, as Clive Sinclair observed!

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

@Lost all faith...

Be honest, if you see anything named "Product X" these days, you sneer a little.

Well, United Launch Alliance for sure and possibly Blue Origin too -

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/07/spacex_x37b_spy_plane_launch

Smiley: Elon Musk

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Re: Is "iPhone X" the actual name?

just before the y2k38 bug hits

Not yet another alarm bug...

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£1,000 for a phone

I could get an interesting, roadworthy car for that. I suppose this an Apple product we're talking about, but still, a thousand quid for a copy of the Galaxy S8,...

The only potential thing that might be innovative is that there's reason to suspect that Apple's wireless charging solution will be a touch better than Qi, in that it won't be anywhere near as position sensitive as Qi pads are. OTOH, to get a sufficiently large charging zone, the charging pad is likely to be significantly bigger than a Qi pad, perhaps the size of an A4 sheet of paper. So I'm guessing a charging cradle for most users, with the option availability of the larger charging pad that you'd probably put on the underside of a desk. But that's all speculation on my part.

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

It probably won't be a complete Samsung copy.

(1) It won't blow up,

(2) It'll be supported for more than 5 minutes, and

(3) It won't spaff your data over anyone who breathes hard at it (or send it back to the mothership).

While I'm on the subject I reckon if we all chip in a penny or two we can buy old Orlowski an iPhone that he can beat into pulp, thereby releasing some of his obviously pent up rage at all things Apple. Apple are a very rich, far from perfect facelesss corporation, and yet every time I read one of Orlowsi's snarkfests it immediately turns me into a rabid Apple defender just to redress the balance.

Pisses me off.

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

bugger off then

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

"(3) It won't spaff your data over anyone who breathes hard at it (or send it back to the mothership)."

Err... yes it will and yes it does.

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

It's not really a copy of an S8 - the Galaxy doesn't have the screen either side of the camera, if you're thinking purely aesthetically. It's also not got the S8's Bixby button, but will have two cameras on the rear instead of one. Also differences in fingerprint sensor.

So we're back to "they copied me, waaah, it's a rectangle with rounded corners and a screen on it". There's far closer clones to the iPhone X such as most Huawei devices. Essentially (ha! there's another one....) unless you go out of your way to deliberately look different - perhaps by making a round phone, then it's going to look enough like something else for people to notice.

Also, you pay too much for cars. Last cheap roadworthy car I bought cost less than a Moto E.

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

It's probably closer to a Samsung S8 than the Samsung devices were to the iPhones Apple were suing Samsung over.

It's all very well having a bit of a ribbing over copying but Apple were the only ones who took a competitor to court due to Design Patent 504,889", which consists of a one-sentence claim about the ornamental design of an electronic device, accompanied by nine figures depicting a thin rectangular cuboid with rounded corners

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

"I could get an interesting, roadworthy car for that"

I love cars under a grand. But I refer to them not as "interesting", but as a "mysterious" roadworthy car. As in, "I wonder which part I'll need to replace next..."

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Re: £1,000 for a phone

Re the price tag.

The Samsung Note 8 is enjoying record pre-orders, despite being nearly £900. Okay, there might be some pent up demand from would-be Note 7 owners, but suggests there are people willing to pay that much.

It is more likely that people used to paying £700 for a phone will pay £1,000 for a phone than it people will jump from a £300 phone to a £700 (with so many good solid handsets at around £300, those who buy flagship phones aren't desperately price conscious).

It is rumoured that Apple's suppliers are struggling to make the cut-out screen in sufficient quantities (and are passing the cost of the low yields on to Apple), and so initial supplies of the new phone will be constrained. As such, Apple wouldn't gain additional sales by reducing the price tag.

(Sent from my Nexus 5. No immediate plans to upgrade, but watching Qualcomm's / Apple's / Google's et al AR/3D scanning efforts with interest)

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