back to article Ten new tech terms I learnt this summer: Do you know them all?

I'll never forget the day I found my children looking at Spam for the first time. My son was particularly perplexed, asking: "Is that what I think it is?" It was my own fault. I had left the tin on the kitchen counter. Even in his tender years, my tech-friendly tweenager was perfectly familiar with spam. But not Spam. He'd …

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T|N>K

How can you discuss policy with a minister whose only means of expression is to scream at you "Eeeeeeeeeeeee-oooooooo buh-doyngg buh-doyngg eeeeee-AAAAAAHHH!" before promptly hanging himself?

Absolute bloody genius. I'm assuming, since he does the gain adjustment bit, that he's a v.92 modem?

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@Chronos.

You, sir, win nerd-of-the-week award.

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Fortunately

I drained my cup of tea before reading this. Otherwise, my keyboard would have been in for another barrage of hot Keemun Congou tea ...

yet again

Great Friday read!!

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"weaved"

Is that the trendy new term for "woven"?

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"weaved" might also be a mis-grammaticisation of "wove". 'I wove a fabric of lies", rather than "I weaved a fabric of lies". But when it's a past participle, yeah, "woven". "I have woven a fabric of lies". And of course, you can use a past participle as an adjective: "Felt is not a woven fabric." (This happens to be true...)

But there's also the people who say "I have went". That makes my teeth itch.

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Re: "weaved"

That's an example of the constant regularisation of irregular verbs.

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Re: "weaved"

In my feeling of usage (but don't ask me why):

He wove a pack of lies. He weaved his way through the crowds.

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Re: "weaved"

Did he have one of those new NetWeaving machines that fit in a large pocket? Modern tech is wonderful.

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Re: "weaved"

I have went

I assume that you live in Wiltshire. That seems the standard grammar round these parts.

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He wove a pack of lies. He weaved his way through the crowds.

One is (I think), past-perfect (ie a complete past action) and the other is continuous historic.

Hopefully, someone who remembers more about English grammar will be along shortly to tell you all how wrong I was.

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Useage: I weaved it cos i din like it

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"I have went"

"I have went"

I was sat over there when I read that.

Teeth itching now?

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"But there's also the people who say "I have went"."

Everyone knows it's I done gone.

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@Steve the Cynic

Since it appears to be National Pedantry day...

"There ARE also the people..."

FTFY, albeit with my own teeth afire.

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"I have went"

If the pedants will look away long enough for me to say "It's not very irregular.", then I will. (If they won't, then would the rest of you be so good as to skip the rest of this post. Otherwise we'll get logical paradoxes.)

I think "went" is to "wend" what "spent" is to "spend" and so "I have went" is about as irregular as "I have spent" and therefore rather more regular than "I have gone". It should, of course, be "I have goed" but I imagine it is too late to insist on that now.

Quite how the verbs to go and to wend (as in, "wend their merry way back from the pub") ever became entangled remains as mysterious as ever, of course, but most western European languages seem to have one or two stupendously irregular verbs with different persons and tenses taken from different root verbs in older languages. I think it is some kind of competition.

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Bloody hell, did I write that? The shame.

PS: no one likes a smart arse.

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"One is (I think), past-perfect (ie a complete past action) and the other is continuous historic.

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Parce que nous sommes tous francais(es). Или русский.

The application of Latinate grammar to English is something I find irritating. It makes me want to boldly split infinitives, just because I can. And because it's Friday, sacred to Freya, and not vendredi, sacred to Venus.

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Re: "weaved"

> Friday, sacred to Freya

No, Friday is Frig's day.

Frig is the wife of Odin, whose day is Wednesday.

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Re: "weaved"

"I have went"

There was a young man of Gwent

Whose pr**k was exceedingly bent

To save himself trouble

He stuffed it in double

And instead of coming

He went.

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Re: "weaved" - No, Friday is Frig's day.

I found this

"In a world that knows too many details about unimportant matters, one would think that our collective expertise could be certain about something as essential as the days of the week. There is, however, a scholarly debate regarding which goddess of love in Norse mythology is the namesake of “Friday.” To complicate matters, it may be that Frigg (or Frigga) and Freyja were at one point one goddess, or at least stemmed from the same one. It’s a headache."

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Re: "weaved"

"Bloody hell, did I write that? "

There was some research a few years ago that said the brain makes a regular conjugation immediately. It takes a little longer for it to be overridden by the correct irregular form. So if the second process gets delayed too much - then we just use the regular form.

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Re: "weaved"

"Everyone knows it's I done gone."

Not in the one-tense Bristollian dialect where "I goes ..." could refer to an action in the past, present or future

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Re: "I have went"

Active or Passive ?

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Re: "weaved"

I was wanting to say exactly that.

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DabbSmithing

"DabbSmithing" : Verb

The art of publically criticising anything that appears worthy of a critic on a Friday. Often appreciated by technophiles, trolls and a variety of other non P-Book readerships.

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Dabbsing?

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dibdabbing? although i think that already has an urban dictionary entry which isnt pleasant

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Re: Dabbsing?

how about simply Dabbling? Use of the capital D will allow those of us who understand to grin knowingly at each other whilst the plebs wonder what we are on about.

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Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

Are these not tropical diseases?

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I thought they were Prog Rock bands.....

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

Hear Alistair Scream At Technology Peeps.

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I'm certain Gaseous Elbow is a German avant garde band. They record and playback cushion smashing and strangled stag beetles.

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I wish they were Prog Rock bands.

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I was impressed at the self-restraint that prevented Gaseous Arse not being used instead.

Rosie

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I thought they were Prog Rock bands.....

I don't think so. Although, Liquid Voice would be a fine band name, if only so that you can use the noise of Dabbsy gnashing his teeth as a suitable rhythm section..

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I was impressed at the self-restraint that prevented Gaseous Arse not being used instead.

Possibly rejected for being too close to home..

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I misread it as "Gaseous Below"

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I always thought liquid voice was another synonym for a technicolour yawn or pavement pizza delivery...

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

Although, Liquid Voice would be a fine band name, if only so that you can use the noise of Dabbsy gnashing his teeth as a suitable rhythm section..

You could retro the name to the '50's.... "Liquid and the Voices".

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Re: Sublimated Ear and Gaseous Elbow.

I was impressed at the self-restraint that prevented Gaseous Arse not being used instead.

Of course, if one doesn't know their arse from their elbow... ☺

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Don't dis the innovative

Our future lies in innovative jams and marmalades. It's the way forward.

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Re: Don't dis the innovative

"[...] and marmalades."

What sort of music is that?

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"[...] and marmalades."

What sort of music is that?

It's a mashup between a madrigal and a carronade.

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Fibre

I still maintain this is the easiest way to distinguish the service for the general public. Granted, lots of us know it's not actually fibre all the way to your house, but at the end of the day the bulk of slow internet connections is caused by the bottleneck at the cabinet, and fibre helps resolve this issue. There are those who suffer being miles from the cabinet but still, keep it simple for average Joe.

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Re: Fibre / POTS

Also:

POTS is analogue duplex voice frequency over copper / steel. i.e. DIAL-UP. We've all heard of that.

Broadband from the exchange uses ADSL/ADSL2/ADSL2+. Lots and lots of people have heard of that.

3G/4G. Internet for mobiles. Everyone has heard of it.

Fibre-to-the-cabinet uses VDSL/VDSL2. No bugger outside the telecomms industry has ever heard of it.

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Re: Fibre / POTS

I still think the even older definition of fibre is more appropriate.

After all, given the amount of shit some of these companies produce, they must be consuming enough fibre to fill several breakfast bowls...

Bran flake anyone?

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Re: Fibre

Just call it by the technology used. People will catch on soon enough (if they even care)

Dial-up -> ADSL -> ADSL2(+) -> VDSL (or FTTC if you must) -> FTTP

Calling something something that it isn't is just going to confuse people in the long run. How many people still think that their desktop background picture is a "screensaver" FFS?!?!?! When FTTP gets widely deployed (currently scheduled for the 57th of Novemruary), they won't know what to call it because some bugger has made people associate fibre optics with this pitiful excuse that's copper from the cabinet.

By the way, even when using dial-up, it was fibre from the exchange so the components haven't changed. Copper/Aluminium from me to someplace over there and glass from there onwards.

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How many people still think that their desktop background picture is a "screensaver"

Or that their entire PC is a "hard drive"....

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Re: Just call it by the technology used...

If there's ONE good thing you can say about Virgin, it's that they run an advertising campaign where they call their cable product DOCSIS3. Even if they only do that distinguish it from BT's offering and to make it sound sexy.

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Calling something something that it isn't is just going to confuse people in the long runCalling something something that it isn't is just going to confuse people in the long run

"LED television" anyone? What they really mean is an LCD television with an LED backlight instead of one based on a fluorescent tube, not a display made up of millions of tiny LEDs. For that you need (new term) "OLED" (grrr)...

M.

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